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Lol sometimes reading a genjutsu's description I get confused because I think I'm supposed to do what it says on it. But in reality its all an illusion. It must be from all the ninjutsu/basic five training XD Don't worry though I'm fully aware that they are illusions and that is my time to act quickly and attack ^^


(Genjutsu: Jubaku Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Death

Strong points
  • Like we spoke of before, this could be looked at as a wood-style technique and thus I could take advantage of that.
  • The target is fully binded so getting out of it with the method of a kunai would be a no.
Weak points
  • Requires five hand seals
  • The range in which it can be performed
Combinations-strategies Judging by the rank of the technique being B-Rank, and the fact that the target is binded, trying to release from the genjutsu by causing pain via kunai is a no go. So my guess would be that my target would use nagashi to get out of it, simple reason is because his arms are binded. Now my best option would be to follow it up by using a water technique but we are short ranged from each other and that can cause myself to get electricuted as well. So taking in consideration that my target might be using nagashi (or lighting), I can follow up my combo my using a wind-style technique that can easily take care of the nagashi and cut my opponent to pieces.

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(Genjutsu: Chou Shinka) - Illusion Technique: Butter Fly Fire Works

Strong points
  • It can be used from mid-range!
Weak points
  • Pretty straight forward technique, no liberty over the illusion.
Combinations-strategies I can't really come up with a good combination for this one, the whole placing the seal on the enemy is confusing me a bit. But if I really had to come up with something, I would follow up the paper bombs with a strong fire technique, because if the opponent is released from the genjutsu fast enough he will want to blow away the paper bombs with a wind technique. And thus it would collide with my fire and continue towards him, giving him little or no time to react.



Question - What main seal do I have to put into the enemies head? Does this mean if I use this in mid-range I would have to run up to short range and place a seal?
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(Genjutsu: Nehan Shoja No Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Temple Of Nirvana

This was the genjutsu kabuto used to put everyone in the chuunin exams to sleep right? I believe this jutsu should get edited, because like we saw in the anime, it was able to be release with kai. And in our RP kai only releases up to B-Rank genjutsu, and this technique is A ranked. Another thing is that it seems to have the ability to reach all ranges. So in our RP it would be cool if it could at least be an up to mid range genjutsu.

Strong points
  • Could be used on more than one person at the same time.
Weak points
  • For its range, and being a slow type-genjutsu is very problematic.
  • Requires a hand seal
Combinations-strategies For activation this technique requires the tiger hand seal, so it could possibly be mistaken for a fire style technique. Knowing this, I would probably use this genjutsu and follow it up with a fire-style technique so my opponent has no idea I could have casted the genjutsu. This is a very risky combination because of the range in which this technique can be performed in >_>
That butterfly genjutsu is quite troublesome to explain since the original technique is very very very different from the description we have here in the rp.



This is the original description. However, through the description we have here in NB this is the chain of events i think are described for us:

-Handseals
-Target is under the gen
-Target begins to feel as if he's sinking
-User throws paper bombs as he runs towards the enemy
-Enemy perceives the paper bombs as butterflies heading his way
-User puts a paper tag with a seal in the enemies head unknown to him and gets away
-Paper tag triggers the explosion of all paper bombs and boom goes the enemy.


But its iffy. I generally when i use it only use if for the sinking on the ground part.
 

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That butterfly genjutsu is quite troublesome to explain since the original technique is very very very different from the description we have here in the rp.



This is the original description. However, through the description we have here in NB this is the chain of events i think are described for us:

-Handseals
-Target is under the gen
-Target begins to feel as if he's sinking
-User throws paper bombs as he runs towards the enemy
-Enemy perceives the paper bombs as butterflies heading his way
-User puts a paper tag with a seal in the enemies head unknown to him and gets away
-Paper tag triggers the explosion of all paper bombs and boom goes the enemy.


But its iffy. I generally when i use it only use if for the sinking on the ground part.
Yeah okay, I'd use it that way too ^^
 

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Love your new bio, sig and avatar ^^

Ok! Last one from the regular jutsu list:

A very very useful genjutsu. I think you can imagine why but i'll let you analyze it first.

(Genjutsu: Kokuangyou Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Infinite Darkness
Rank: A
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:N/A
Description: A binding illusion that binds the opponent in total darkness and eliminates smell and touch allowing user to attack freely.

Now, the AACTs. Reguarding the Genjutsu they are quite simple all of them so lets do it this way, read them, analyze them and see if you have any questions on how to use them or how they are performed. Its pointless for me with such a good student like you to be banging here in basic concepts that you have shown to fully understand already ^^

(Genjutsu: Kasumi no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Mist Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: Kurenai creates an illusionary clone that charges towards the enemy, jumps, then explodes in a cloud of cherry blossom petals which results in confusing the opponent leaving them open for attack.

(Magen: Hiei no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Flying Shadow Technique.
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user first casts an illusionary technique in which binds the target in a state of confusion and then the user will then strike the target with the flyign swallow to knock them unconsious

(Magen: Jibaku Satsu Bakuhatsu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death Explosion Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: Ater using the Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death to trap the opponent the user then makes the tiger hand seal and causes the tree to explode inflicting damage to the opponent. The user causes the explosion by placing a explosive note on the target

(Genjutsu: Jubaku Hien Satsu no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Flying Swallow Death Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: After performing the Demonic Illusion tree binding death they then follow up with instead of dispatching the target with a kunai they attack the bound target with the flying swallow technique.
 

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Love your new bio, sig and avatar ^^

Ok! Last one from the regular jutsu list:

A very very useful genjutsu. I think you can imagine why but i'll let you analyze it first.

(Genjutsu: Kokuangyou Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Infinite Darkness
Rank: A
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:N/A
Description: A binding illusion that binds the opponent in total darkness and eliminates smell and touch allowing user to attack freely.

Now, the AACTs. Reguarding the Genjutsu they are quite simple all of them so lets do it this way, read them, analyze them and see if you have any questions on how to use them or how they are performed. Its pointless for me with such a good student like you to be banging here in basic concepts that you have shown to fully understand already ^^

(Genjutsu: Kasumi no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Mist Technique
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: Kurenai creates an illusionary clone that charges towards the enemy, jumps, then explodes in a cloud of cherry blossom petals which results in confusing the opponent leaving them open for attack.

(Magen: Hiei no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Flying Shadow Technique.
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user first casts an illusionary technique in which binds the target in a state of confusion and then the user will then strike the target with the flyign swallow to knock them unconsious

(Magen: Jibaku Satsu Bakuhatsu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death Explosion Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: Ater using the Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death to trap the opponent the user then makes the tiger hand seal and causes the tree to explode inflicting damage to the opponent. The user causes the explosion by placing a explosive note on the target

(Genjutsu: Jubaku Hien Satsu no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Flying Swallow Death Technique
Rank: B
Type: Offensive
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: After performing the Demonic Illusion tree binding death they then follow up with instead of dispatching the target with a kunai they attack the bound target with the flying swallow technique.
Thanks x3 ^_^ however I have changed my avatar from the time you posted so idk if you still like it :p
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(Genjutsu: Kokuangyou Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Infinite Darkness

Strong points
  • Eliminates two of the main senses
  • If I'm right according to that description, the genjutsu will last until the target releases himself so it is indeed a very useful technique.
  • It can't be disrupted by nagashi :overjoy:
Weak points
  • Range in which it can be performed
  • Requires a hand seal (no that bad but I rather have no hand seal genjutsus)
Combinations-strategies Considering the hand seal needed for the activation of this technique is "Tiger". I would start out my move by taking a deep breath while performing the Tiger hand seal, and thus leading my opponent to believe that I might be using a fire technique. Once caught in the genjutsu I would throw a kunai with wire to wrap around the target binding him in place so he can not use his hands to escape from the genjutsu. I'm sure the pain from being binded is not enough to break him free, and I would doubt being binded giving any pain. After having thrown the kunai with the wire to bind him, I would swiftly perform the "Silent Homicide Technique
" and slice his throat with my sword, or pierce it through his heart.

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(Genjutsu: Kasumi no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Mist Technique

Strong points
  • No hand seals
  • Quite useful distraction
Weak points
  • This technique can only be used by Kurenai so I can't perform it.
  • The range in which it can be performed
Combinations-strategies Due to the creation of the clone, I wish this genjutsu could go up to mid range. This technique has way too many options for combinations. One that I could think of is, right after performing the genjutsu I would change my current, and while the opponent is either busy taking care of the "clone" before it disperses or trying to get out of the genjutsu, I would drop a lid above his head. However judging by the range in which we are in.. that wouldn't be a good idea. Keeping in mind that my target can escape this technique by using nagashi, it would not be the best idea to follow up the genjutsu with an earth technique. What I would do is follow it up with either a wind technique that will take care of the lighting and continue, or a water technique so that he can electrocute himself.

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(Magen: Hiei no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Flying Shadow Technique.

Strong points
  • No hand seals
  • Decent distraction.
Weak points
  • This is collaboration technique with two people, but that doesn't seem to be the case in our rp.
  • Its range
  • Seems like a fast genjutsu
Combinations-strategies After the opponent has entered the genjutsu, and is in the "state of confusion" I would simply use "Ninja Art: Giant Shuriken Technique" and throw a shuriken at him that suddenly enlarges up to the point that it brutally strikes him and sends him flying. I could also follow it up with the shuriken shadow clone technique multiplying the giant shurikens making a deadly combo.

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(Magen: Jibaku Satsu Bakuhatsu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death Explosion Technique

Strong points
  • I really don't see any strong points on this technique. I find it a waste.
Weak points
  • A waste of a technique in which I am using a whole jutsu to simply place an explosive tag.
Combinations-strategies If I understood it correctly, after performing a genjutsu I previously learned,, I would have to use this genjutsu to place an explosive tag on my opponent and make him blow up. And thus wasting one jutsu out of the three.

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(Genjutsu: Jubaku Hien Satsu no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Flying Swallow Death Technique

Strong points
  • Just like the last one, I find this technique a waste of a jutsu.
Weak points
  • If you don't know the flying swallow technique, you can't perform this technique.
Combinations-strategies Sorry for these last two Scorps but I just can't come up with anything positive they are just horrible techniques.
 

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Thanks x3 ^_^ however I have changed my avatar from the time you posted so idk if you still like it :p
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(Genjutsu: Kokuangyou Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Infinite Darkness

Strong points
  • Eliminates two of the main senses
  • If I'm right according to that description, the genjutsu will last until the target releases himself so it is indeed a very useful technique.
  • It can't be disrupted by nagashi :overjoy:
Weak points
  • Range in which it can be performed
  • Requires a hand seal (no that bad but I rather have no hand seal genjutsus)
Combinations-strategies Considering the hand seal needed for the activation of this technique is "Tiger". I would start out my move by taking a deep breath while performing the Tiger hand seal, and thus leading my opponent to believe that I might be using a fire technique. Once caught in the genjutsu I would throw a kunai with wire to wrap around the target binding him in place so he can not use his hands to escape from the genjutsu. I'm sure the pain from being binded is not enough to break him free, and I would doubt being binded giving any pain. After having thrown the kunai with the wire to bind him, I would swiftly perform the "Silent Homicide Technique
" and slice his throat with my sword, or pierce it through his heart.

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(Genjutsu: Kasumi no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Mist Technique

Strong points
  • No hand seals
  • Quite useful distraction
Weak points
  • This technique can only be used by Kurenai so I can't perform it.
  • The range in which it can be performed
Combinations-strategies Due to the creation of the clone, I wish this genjutsu could go up to mid range. This technique has way too many options for combinations. One that I could think of is, right after performing the genjutsu I would change my current, and while the opponent is either busy taking care of the "clone" before it disperses or trying to get out of the genjutsu, I would drop a lid above his head. However judging by the range in which we are in.. that wouldn't be a good idea. Keeping in mind that my target can escape this technique by using nagashi, it would not be the best idea to follow up the genjutsu with an earth technique. What I would do is follow it up with either a wind technique that will take care of the lighting and continue, or a water technique so that he can electrocute himself.

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(Magen: Hiei no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Flying Shadow Technique.

Strong points
  • No hand seals
  • Decent distraction.
Weak points
  • This is collaboration technique with two people, but that doesn't seem to be the case in our rp.
  • Its range
  • Seems like a fast genjutsu
Combinations-strategies After the opponent has entered the genjutsu, and is in the "state of confusion" I would simply use "Ninja Art: Giant Shuriken Technique" and throw a shuriken at him that suddenly enlarges up to the point that it brutally strikes him and sends him flying. I could also follow it up with the shuriken shadow clone technique multiplying the giant shurikens making a deadly combo.

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(Magen: Jibaku Satsu Bakuhatsu no Jutsu) - Demonic Illusion: Tree Binding Death Explosion Technique

Strong points
  • I really don't see any strong points on this technique. I find it a waste.
Weak points
  • A waste of a technique in which I am using a whole jutsu to simply place an explosive tag.
Combinations-strategies If I understood it correctly, after performing a genjutsu I previously learned,, I would have to use this genjutsu to place an explosive tag on my opponent and make him blow up. And thus wasting one jutsu out of the three.

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(Genjutsu: Jubaku Hien Satsu no Jutsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Flying Swallow Death Technique

Strong points
  • Just like the last one, I find this technique a waste of a jutsu.
Weak points
  • If you don't know the flying swallow technique, you can't perform this technique.
Combinations-strategies Sorry for these last two Scorps but I just can't come up with anything positive they are just horrible techniques.
Excellent assement on all. The infinite darkness gen i like to use with a clone. I make 3 shadow clones and have one disappear underground behind me (leech all creation, underground fish projection, etc etc) and appear somewhere short range from my opponent while me and my other clones keep him busy. Once he appears he blinds the enemy with this technique while i perform one of my ubber clone-drive combos. Its also quite good when fighting against taijutsu users.

As for the other ones i completely agree. Terrible techniques. If i'm not mistaken, techniques that were from games and thus aren't sometimes very usable in our RP.

Now, any questions? ^^
 

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Excellent assement on all. The infinite darkness gen i like to use with a clone. I make 3 shadow clones and have one disappear underground behind me (leech all creation, underground fish projection, etc etc) and appear somewhere short range from my opponent while me and my other clones keep him busy. Once he appears he blinds the enemy with this technique while i perform one of my ubber clone-drive combos. Its also quite good when fighting against taijutsu users.

As for the other ones i completely agree. Terrible techniques. If i'm not mistaken, techniques that were from games and thus aren't sometimes very usable in our RP.

Now, any questions? ^^
Understood, no questions ^^
 

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Understood, no questions ^^
Well, you have now mastered Genjutsu as far as a normal bio can learn. You don't need to be trained in any other genjutsu that is added to the jutsu list from this point foward. Also, if you do a Kurenai bio you'll get her genjutsu auto.

Sage Genjutsu and Sharingan Genjutsu however, still require you to be trained in it.

So, you were my first student to master gen. How was my training overal? Did you find it interesting and useful? Or would you like another approach? I ask this because i'm trying to see if my current method works well enough ^^
 

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Well, you have now mastered Genjutsu as far as a normal bio can learn. You don't need to be trained in any other genjutsu that is added to the jutsu list from this point foward. Also, if you do a Kurenai bio you'll get her genjutsu auto.

Sage Genjutsu and Sharingan Genjutsu however, still require you to be trained in it.

So, you were my first student to master gen. How was my training overal? Did you find it interesting and useful? Or would you like another approach? I ask this because i'm trying to see if my current method works well enough ^^
Arigato Sensei :D

As for the training I'd have to say that it was the perfect method to teach genjutsu as far as I'm concerned ^_^
Hopefully in the future I'll find an open spot and learn taijutsu the same way ^^
 

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Arigato Sensei :D

As for the training I'd have to say that it was the perfect method to teach genjutsu as far as I'm concerned ^_^
Hopefully in the future I'll find an open spot and learn taijutsu the same way ^^
Taijutsu i teach in a very different way. Well, i'll be opening a few spots in the begining of january hopefully. Haven't you started in Taijutsu yet?
 

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Taijutsu i teach in a very different way. Well, i'll be opening a few spots in the begining of january hopefully. Haven't you started in Taijutsu yet?
Well yeah I'm sure the method wouldn't be exactly like we did genjutsu because its something totally different, but I'm sure its good over all. And I went as far as greeting my teacher in the thread (LoK) But he is currently not training anyone. He is also trying to find out if Jinbo is going to continue being a sensei so the training isn't in vein.

Oh and sensei I have one last question. Do you think I'd ever have a chance at learning lazy fist? Just having you teach me gen made me love it, specially since I really had no idea how deadly it can be o_o and after recently learning kenjutsu, I've started to like close quarter situations. But yeah anyways.. don't mind my rambling xD

Thanks again for everything, I appreciate it ^_^
 

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Well yeah I'm sure the method wouldn't be exactly like we did genjutsu because its something totally different, but I'm sure its good over all. And I went as far as greeting my teacher in the thread (LoK) But he is currently not training anyone. He is also trying to find out if Jinbo is going to continue being a sensei so the training isn't in vein.

Oh and sensei I have one last question. Do you think I'd ever have a chance at learning lazy fist? Just having you teach me gen made me love it, specially since I really had no idea how deadly it can be o_o and after recently learning kenjutsu, I've started to like close quarter situations. But yeah anyways.. don't mind my rambling xD

Thanks again for everything, I appreciate it ^_^
I still need to finish with Wesobi and SY. Once i finish with wesobi i'll be organzing the style into a thread. When that is done i'll open a slot for 2 other people to learn it. I still haven't figured out exactly what i'll be doing to select the people. But i'll notice you when i decide what to do ^^

I'm also working on a special Kenjutsu but that i'll explain much later on. Its still quite green. ^^
 

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I still need to finish with Wesobi and SY. Once i finish with wesobi i'll be organzing the style into a thread. When that is done i'll open a slot for 2 other people to learn it. I still haven't figured out exactly what i'll be doing to select the people. But i'll notice you when i decide what to do ^^

I'm also working on a special Kenjutsu but that i'll explain much later on. Its still quite green. ^^
Sounds good, now I have two applications threads to look forward to xD Lazy Fist and Izuna's clan. ^^

Btw if you need any help with the kenjutsu style feel free to add me on msn. My email is posted in our med nin thread ^^
 
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