Orochimaru and Jiraiya vs Itachi and Kisame!!

[Kyuubikiller]

J-man and Oro win this. Itachi starting off with Sasunoo is kind of bad because we all know his stamina is crap, and I don't think he's taking anybody out that fast. Jiraiya starting in SM will more then likely handle Kisame, while Oro uses the sound 4 as distractions to Itachi to avoid his genjutsu. By the time Jiraiya finishes Kisame, Itachi would be tired from the extended use of his MS, now having to face two Sannin, he doesn't really have a chance against the both of them.

 

[Lt Fresh]

For the most part I agree with you. But Itachi cannot out do Jiraiya in taijutsu while he is in Sage Mode. No way, no how. Jiraiya would be way too strong and fast. Unless he mixes things up with genjutsu and his MS techs he can't stand toe to toe with Jiraiya.

O yea I agree, SM Jiraiya is better than Itachi in taijutsu. But if you read my last comment, I said Jiraiya wouldnt be able to use SM after his fight with Kisame. They are both extremely tired so they are left doing simple techs if any. So in that case Itachi would out do Jiraiya in normal taijutsu and probably finish with like a B ranked Genjutsu

 

[Oronagato]

Why doesn't anybody bother to read the BATTLE DOME RULES that I always take time to post, I post it there for a reason, which doesn't involve having it ignored.

 

[Kenpai]

I don't see how some of you are pairing Oro and edos (sound 4 or 2 hokages) with Kisame. I still don't see Oro beating Kisame unless he fights dirty and take it to the 10th power. J-man vs Kisame is the most likely fight because of skills. Kisame I would think **** on the edos.

 

[Blaze Release]

Itachi and kisame take this.

Those fodder sound ninja's would be sealed in a blind of an eye.

Itachi would own oro for the third time and would help kisame finish of jiraiya

 

[Yo pappy]

Why doesn't anybody bother to read the BATTLE DOME RULES that I always take time to post, I post it there for a reason, which doesn't involve having it ignored.

Because most people think that rules, restrictions, and speculations are stupid. lol Just let the ****ers fight.

 

[Kenpai]

Itachi and kisame take this.

Those fodder sound ninja's would be sealed in a blind of an eye.

Itachi would own oro for the third time and would help kisame finish of jiraiya

I could see that happening. Oro gets cocky and once Itachi puts him in genjustu, Oro makes a attempt to break out like he tried the first time, and lose a hand again then dies. Itachi tries to help Kisame but then kisame is like "I don't need your help!" then dies to j-man. Then we are back to J-man vs Itachi. Either one of them can win in my opinion.

 

[Yo pappy]

I don't see how some of you are pairing Oro and edos (sound 4 or 2 hokages) with Kisame. I still don't see Oro beating Kisame unless he fights dirty and take it to the 10th power. J-man vs Kisame is the most likely fight because of skills. Kisame I would think **** on the edos.

Okay let's take Itachi out of the picture for a second. I think if Orochimaru let's the Edo Kages go ape shit like you mentioned earlier, they could easily defeat Kisame. Tobirama would nullify Kisames water techniques, and Hashirama would be the overkill. That being said I don't think Oro will use them to their full potential, but then again Kisame has no sealing techniques. Not only that but if Kisame finds a way to get rid of the Edos, (which I don't see happening) then he has Orochimaru to deal with, and that's a whole other problem in itself.

 

[Oronagato]

I don't see how some of you are pairing Oro and edos (sound 4 or 2 hokages) with Kisame. I still don't see Oro beating Kisame unless he fights dirty and take it to the 10th power. J-man vs Kisame is the most likely fight because of skills. Kisame I would think **** on the edos.

Don't ever underestimate Orochimaru and play him for a sucker like that. Orochimaru will be the most challenging opponent kisame has ever faced and his worst match up. His 1000 shark techniques will be easily demolished by ten thousand snakes formation, because ten thousand snakes sprouting Kusanagi blades>1000 water sharks. orochimaru's techniques can't be absorbed, so samaheda eating orochimaru's ninjutsu is out of question. rashomon gates along with oral rebirth will tank a majority of attacks from kisame, plus Manda will inflict massive damage on Kisame. If Orochimaru speed blitz mpales kisame with the kusangi blade then kisame will be finished. Now if orochimaru adds 4 edos to the picture, things will lean more favorably in orochimaru's side than kisame's.

 

[Blaze Release]

I could see that happening. Oro gets cocky and once Itachi puts him in genjustu, Oro makes a attempt to break out like he tried the first time, and lose a hand again then dies. Itachi tries to help Kisame but then kisame is like "I don't need your help!" then dies to j-man. Then we are back to J-man vs Itachi. Either one of them can win in my opinion.

Kisame can more or less beat jiraiya by himself.
Infact he has more impressive battle fight than jiraiya. Jiraiya just has hype because he is a sannin and also because of what itachi said, when we clearly know why he said that.

Anyway the sound 4 and oro arent a match for itachi.
Kisame fused with samahada can go toe to toe with jiraiya. Jiraiya has fire and oil tech, what is that doing against a dude can create a mass of water in an instant.

Im my eyes itachi and kisame are clearly the stronger team. Think the op knew this and tried to salvage some dignity for the sannins by adding 4 fodder ninja's

 

[blazekev90]

I personally don't see the Edo being needed, but they help. Overall this fight depends on pairing for me.

-Itachi vs Oro with full knowledge and the intent to kill the fight would be different the previous ones
-Jman vs Kisame this one is on equal grounds, so it could go either way

-Oro vs Kisame Oro wins, idk how ppl can't come to that conclusion (not easy tho)
-Jman vs itachi could also go either way IMO, h having full knowledge on Itachi is a factor

The first match-up ima go with a draw, but summonings could easily change that
The second match I'm going with the Sannin.

 

[Oronagato]

I personally don't see the Edo being needed, but they help. Overall this fight depends on pairing for me.

-Itachi vs Oro with full knowledge and the intent to kill the fight would be different the previous ones
-Jman vs Kisame this one is on equal grounds, so it could go either way

-Oro vs Kisame Oro wins, idk how ppl can't come to that conclusion (not easy tho)
-Jman vs itachi could also go either way IMO, h having full knowledge on Itachi is a factor

The first match-up ima go with a draw, but summonings could easily change that
The second match I'm going with the Sannin.

Nice analysis

 

[Oronagato]

I'm not. Oro edo tech and Kabuto edo tech is different in one aspect. And that is Kabuto's tech let the edos do w/e nessarily to get the kill (Full power, a little control over them selves, and they can talk). Oro's tech, he just makes zombies that can talk. The strongest out of the sound 5, well four not including Kimi was Sakon. And he lost to kiba...



Well that might be true. Even if what kabuto said about Oro was true he should have let the kages go APE **** over Hiruzen. But like you I was expecting something EPIC in that fight and I just got was 2 dead hokages (NERF) 2 jutsus, a summon and a deatseal = crap.

Kiba and Kankuro + the two Jonin who fought the Sound four and weakened them immensely

 

[Oronagato]

Kisame can more or less beat jiraiya by himself.
Infact he has more impressive battle fight than jiraiya. Jiraiya just has hype because he is a sannin and also because of what itachi said, when we clearly know why he said that.

Anyway the sound 4 and oro arent a match for itachi.
Kisame fused with samahada can go toe to toe with jiraiya. Jiraiya has fire and oil tech, what is that doing against a dude can create a mass of water in an instant.

Im my eyes itachi and kisame are clearly the stronger team. Think the op knew this and tried to salvage some dignity for the sannins by adding 4 fodder ninja's

If you switch Jiraiya and Orochimaru around have Jiraiya face Itachi and Orochimaru kisame, then the sannin can win. I already explained how orochimaru can fight on par with kisame and attain victory in the above post of mine. As for jiraiya j man can also put up an incredible fight against itachi given his circumstances. SM Jiraiya is almost immune to Genjutsu, especially with the elder frogs there to break genjutsu. hell of swamp can easily sink itachi who is immobile with Susanno, amateresu can be sealed by j man with his fire scrolls, and frog song will inflict heavy damage on both itachi and kisame. combine all that with boss summons and 4 edos and we have an extremely difficult sannin victory

 

[Blaze Release]

If you switch Jiraiya and Orochimaru around have Jiraiya face Itachi and Orochimaru kisame, then the sannin can win. I already explained how orochimaru can fight on par with kisame and attain victory in the above post of mine. As for jiraiya j man can also put up an incredible fight against itachi given his circumstances. SM Jiraiya is almost immune to Genjutsu, especially with the elder frogs there to break genjutsu. hell of swamp can easily sink itachi who is immobile with Susanno, amateresu can be sealed by j man with his fire scrolls, and frog song will inflict heavy damage on both itachi and kisame. combine all that with boss summons and 4 edos and we have an extremely difficult sannin victory

Jiraiya isnt beating itachi. Get that out of your head.
As for oro vs kisame, kisame is the stronger of the two but oro is extremely hard to kill.

Itachi will make short work of jiraiya and help kisame with oro. Totsuka sword should do the trick again

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Jiraiya isnt beating itachi. Get that out of your head.
As for oro vs kisame, kisame is the stronger of the two but oro is extremely hard to kill.

Itachi will make short work of jiraiya and help kisame with oro. Totsuka sword should do the trick again

Jiraiya IS capable of beating Itachi, and why does everyone forget that Kisame admitted himself that he was not able to fight against Jiraiya, or was he also trying to "spare" Jiraiya's life during that encounter? The way I see it, Kisame is the reason why Itachi is going to loose this fight. Kisame can't win against Oro or Jiraiya, to this day we still don't know how to kill Oro besides sealing him like Itachi did, so we really can't speculate on how Kisame is going to do it.

Itachi's downfall in this fight is his incredibly low stamina, against a Sannin with huge chakra reserves and stamina, plus virtually limitless chakra in SM, and another Sannin who is incredibly hard to kill and was only defeated because he was sealed, this battle will not be the quick and easy kind like Itachi likes it, he will be extremely exhausted, and using Susanoo from the beginning will also take a toll on him. Sword of Totsuka is not that hard to dodge, Jiraiya has speed feats in SM capable of dodging Amaterasu and so on and so on. The only thing that will be a challenge in this fight is genjutsu, and Oro would have finished Kisame by then to help take Itachi out.

 

[Blaze Release]

Jiraiya IS capable of beating Itachi, and why does everyone forget that Kisame admitted himself that he was not able to fight against Jiraiya, or was he also trying to "spare" Jiraiya's life during that encounter? The way I see it, Kisame is the reason why Itachi is going to loose this fight. Kisame can't win against Oro or Jiraiya, to this day we still don't know how to kill Oro besides sealing him like Itachi did, so we really can't speculate on how Kisame is going to do it.

Itachi's downfall in this fight is his incredibly low stamina, against a Sannin with huge chakra reserves and stamina, plus virtually limitless chakra in SM, and another Sannin who is incredibly hard to kill and was only defeated because he was sealed, this battle will not be the quick and easy kind like Itachi likes it, he will be extremely exhausted, and using Susanoo from the beginning will also take a toll on him. Sword of Totsuka is not that hard to dodge, Jiraiya has speed feats in SM capable of dodging Amaterasu and so on and so on. The only thing that will be a challenge in this fight is genjutsu, and Oro would have finished Kisame by then to help take Itachi out.

When i say who i think would win a battle, i dont take into consideration what characters have said. Kisame has way more impressive battle feat than jiraiya. Not to forget when they did eventually meet, he wasnt scared of him at all. In fact quiet the opposite, He blocked jiraiya in order for itachi to wipe the floor with sasuke.

Itachi has owned oro twice both within few minutes. He can do it again.

Similarly as i said if jiraiya is fighting kisame, chances are he would be fighting kisame in his ideal location, water. If this is the case jiraiya isnt winning, especialy if kisame fuses with samahada aswell.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

When i say who i think would win a battle, i dont take into consideration what characters have said. Kisame has way more impressive battle feat than jiraiya. Not to forget when they did eventually meet, he wasnt scared of him at all. In fact quiet the opposite, He blocked jiraiya in order for itachi to wipe the floor with sasuke.

Itachi has owned oro twice both within few minutes. He can do it again.

Similarly as i said if jiraiya is fighting kisame, chances are he would be fighting kisame in his ideal location, water. If this is the case jiraiya isnt winning, especialy if kisame fuses with samahada aswell.

Just because someone has been showcased more then another character doesn't make them the victor, side characters have more feats then Minato does but we all know that he can most likely win against them, and Kisame having more impressive battle feats is just a matter of opinion.

The thread says they are fighting in the Sannin battlefield, which is kind of vague because I don't know what that looks like lol But lets say there is a pond or something, Jiraiya can easily adapt to that terrain with his toad summons, and being in SM, Kisame would have to be cautious about absorbing his chakra because we all know what happens when you take in natural energy without being used to handling it.

idk man, I'm just not convinced enough that Kisame is capable of taking any of the Sannins out.

 

[Exaar]

Jiraiya isnt beating itachi. Get that out of your head.
As for oro vs kisame, kisame is the stronger of the two but oro is extremely hard to kill.

Itachi will make short work of jiraiya and help kisame with oro. Totsuka sword should do the trick again

You are Being Very one sided.

The Way you are making it sound is that Jman even with Sm is just a Fodder Ninja that Itachi can Beat with No problems.

Also Both times Oro got Owned by itachi was Due to Lack of knowledge on Itachi, First time he underestimated Itachi and his powers with Genjutsu. Second time He had No Idear that Itachi had the Totsuka sword.

With Full knowledge of Itachi's and his Genjutsu, Susanoo + weapons i Highly doubt Oro will allow himself to be Beaten so Easily again. but Ofc in a 1v1 even with knowledge i still think Itachi would win, Unless Oro uses Edo.

 

[Baka Sennin]

what happens if samehada absorbs too much sage mode chakra btw? will it turn into stone? or transform from the great sharkskin sword to the great frog sword

in the fight i'm leaning towards oro and j-man, very very extreme difficulty. orochimaru has a definite means of surviving amaterasu, that puking up himself jutsu which sasuke also used when he was hit. to defeat their summons, that water bowl of kisame's is virtually useless i think, as the toads can breathe underwater and manda is massive, he could probably jump straight out of the bowl. so the take the summons out of the picture ms is required, and itachi doesn't have much stamina for it. n sasuke's fight his max was a tsukuyomi, a fireball plus amaterasu, a huge amaterasu burst and 2 susanoo's for a short time. it could be enough to win but it's a toss up really, jiraiya has a way to seal the flames and oro has a way to survive them, and they have knowledge as well. as far as smarts go, i say it's about even, orochimaru and jiraiya are no idiots, and neither are itachi and kisame.