12 People that can beat Itachi

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well, it's true that sasori may put a poison on itachi but
that's if sasori can escape the tsukuyomi
I bet, the second before he attacks, he's already in itachi's genjutsu xD
 

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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don't just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.

Sasori is a likely candidate as well.
i feel like the terrain they on fight could definately help out certain people
ex: kisame near just about any body of water, fight is now more favored to him

but disregarding that assuming it's like an open field i think that most of thse people would have a great fight, but sasuke is automatically out because you said he wud have ems which means itachi must be dead. the only person i think wouldn't really do well is the raikage, he's very powerful and very fast but he doesn't think things through. when he fought sasuke at the summit he chopped straight through amaterasu just to make a point knowing that his arm would never stop burning and would have killed himself if garra hadn't stopped him. also i personally feel that he overestimates his raiton armor and being that itachi is waaaaaay smarter and just better in general, the raikage would probably find a way to own himself
 

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1) Minato-tie
2) Hashirama Senju-never seen him fight
3) Madara-yes
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi-tie
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)-no
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)-yes
7) Kisame-no
8) Muu-no
9) Naruto (KM and SM)-no
10) Third Raikage-no
11) Tobirama Senju-never seen him fight
12) nagato-either tie or nagato wins
 

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I agree with mostly everything, But Kisame, Muu, 3rd Raikage and Naruto SM. All of them could possibly be beat by Genjutsu. I think Itachi would now how to beat Kisame, they are teammates. Muu can fly and turn invisible but Itachi has Sharigan so Muu goes down. 3rd Raikage would push Itachi to Sasunoo most likely. SM Naruto, is just not smart enough
 

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1) Minato Nope
2) Hashirama Senju yes
3) Madara Yes
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi nope
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu) yes
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths) yes
7) Kisame nope
8) Muu possible
9) Naruto (KM and SM) yes
10) Third Raikage nope
11) Tobirama Senju idk what he can do
12) Sasori-- No....gets amaterasu'd and burns
13)Nagato - Nagato easily

u are just a hater nagato easily noo way maybe with difficulty but no one can beat itachi easily sasuke maybe but only cos he got ems not ms but i am still leaning to itachi hiruzen could also beat itachi in my opinion but thats only cos itachi is ill
 

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I think these people pose a great challenge to Itachi and can win a battle against him:
1) Minato
2) Hashirama Senju
3) Madara
4) Hiruzen Sarutobi
5) Sasuke (EMS-Susano-Amaterasu)
6) Tobi (Rinnegan - Six Paths)
7) Kisame
8) Muu
9) Naruto (KM and SM)
10) Third Raikage
11) Tobirama Senju
12) Yes, oh yes, the one and only, the infamous rival.. NAGATO

Please discuss, yes I may be wrong, but please explain why one of these shinobi has no (or almost none) chances of winning against Itachi, don't just be a fanboy. Thank you.

I left SO6P out of the list for obvious reasons.

Sasori is a likely candidate as well.
Is this Santas list to himself for people who he wants to beat Itachi???

Half the people you have stated would get wrecked due to numerous reasons. So many reasons that I rate you a noob and won't even explain myself, to leave your heart and mind empty and uncontrollably lusting for my opinion/reasons that you are wrong.
 

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1)minato
2)hiruzen
3)hashirama
4)muu
5)madara
6)tobi (current form ie rinnegan and 6 paths)
7)3rd raikage
8)naruto (kyuubi mode)
9)nagato (with or without 6 paths)
10)jiraiya
11)sasori
12)......... maybe itachi in a mirror :p
 

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Is this Santas list to himself for people who he wants to beat Itachi???

Half the people you have stated would get wrecked due to numerous reasons. So many reasons that I rate you a noob and won't even explain myself, to leave your heart and mind empty and uncontrollably lusting for my opinion/reasons that you are wrong.
ur just a fanboy
 

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Interesting thread.

I'm going to start off by repeating what someone else has already said - virtually any kage-level ninja can be defeated by virtually any other kage-level ninja. I'm going to make an arguement for each of the characters from the original post and then include some other characters that could win. I will end every arguement with who I think will win more than 50% of the time. I'm guessing that this could get long, so I'm only going to go four at a time so I don't give everyone information overload.

First up was Minato. In terms of overall intellectual ability, these two are nearly on par with each other. Due to his mastery of the sharingan, Itachi is one of the few people that would be able to find and keep track of the locations of every FTG kunai that Minato throws. On the other hand, Minato's speed should easily be enough to dodge amaterasu. I also doubt that Itachi's susanoo is fast enough to land a hit on him. Susanoo also makes it extremely difficult for Minato to land an attack. He could overcome this by dropping back and forcing Itachi to wear himself out, though whether or not he'd do this is debatable. The big advantage Itachi has is tsukoyomi. If Minato stands still long enough for Itachi to get it off he wins, but if Minato is continuously moving at speeds that are two fast to make good eye contact, that can be nullified. Again, whether or not he would do this is debatable. I see these two fighting a war of attrition, both are very capable of beating each other.

This is one of the few I will do that ends - Itachi 50% Minato 50% because of how close they are and how many possible variables there are.

Next is Hashirama. Based on hype Hashirama would win, based on feats that have been showed Itachi would win. I just haven't seen enough of Hashirama to make a definitive argument, but I would say he is capable of beating Itachi.

Not enough info to make a definitive judgement.

Third was Madara. Based on hype Madara shouldn't have a serious problem, based on feats this is a decent fight. I'm going to wait to make a firm judgement on this one until it is confirmed he can use the powers of the six paths, amaterasu, and tsukoyomi. I'm going to assume that he can, but until it is seen for certainty I'm not going to waste time making a big arguement on it.

Under this assumption, Madara should win more than 50% of the time.

Fourth is Hiruzen. Again, based on hype Hiruzen (prime) should win. Based on feats I don't see him beating Itachi more often than Itachi beats him. Like Hashirama, I can't make a great arguement because we have such little information on Hiruzen in his prime. I would GUESS he would be capable of beating Itachi, but I can't give a win percentage on such little info.

Not enough info to make a definitive judgement.

I'm going to take a break and post the next four a little later.
 
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You sir, are brave. The only one I might just call "crazy" on is Gaara, just maybee..but I guess the whole purpose of Naruto is to not underestimate your opponent right? I mean, who would've thought 5 12-year-old twerps would defeat 5 adult, jounin-rank, curse-marked, assasins?

Then again, I think A and Gaara are a bit far-fetched..Killer Bee has been under debate for a long time, I also believe Jiraiya as well..and as for the 2nd Mizukage..I forgot he even existed..what are his skills?

Note: I have not added any of these to my list. Just to clarify.
If telling the truth makes you brave, then I guess I am.xd

Gaara is a kage and he's the most improved fighter of them all -of course alongside Naruto and Sasuke. He is also the genious who figured out susanoo's weakness after only seeing it once.He defeated two kages, overcame adversity by defeating people with elemental advantages,plus he stopped A's killing blow (arguably fastest man alive) and amaterasu at the exact same time.It should also be noted that he's a long range fighter,who can also fight inside his sand bubble (with the third eye) and thus avoiding Itachi's genjutsu.

Far-fetched? I think not.... :eek:

The 2nd mizukage is the one who died at the same time as Muu.His abilkities includes:

1)Yin release; thus an excellent genjutsu user
2)The Clam (killed tons of noobs without even wanting too)
3)He can transform his body into liquid
4)He can shoot deadly water bullets.
5)Finally the streaming danger tyranna(infinite explosions via a fast clone).

Btw, Itachi can beat these guys, as well, but it goes both ways.
 

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Interesting thread.

I'm going to start off by repeating what someone else has already said - virtually any kage-level ninja can be defeated by virtually any other kage-level ninja. I'm going to make an arguement for each of the characters from the original post and then include some other characters that could win. I will end every arguement with who I think will win more than 50% of the time. I'm guessing that this could get long, so I'm only going to go four at a time so I don't give everyone information overload.

First up was Minato. In terms of overall intellectual ability, these two are nearly on par with each other. Due to his mastery of the sharingan, Itachi is one of the few people that would be able to find and keep track of the locations of every FTG kunai that Minato throws. On the other hand, Minato's speed should easily be enough to dodge amaterasu. I also doubt that Itachi's susanoo is fast enough to land a hit on him. Susanoo also makes it extremely difficult for Minato to land an attack. He could overcome this by dropping back and forcing Itachi to wear himself out, though whether or not he'd do this is debatable. The big advantage Itachi has is tsukoyomi. If Minato stands still long enough for Itachi to get it off he wins, but if Minato is continuously moving at speeds that are two fast to make good eye contact, that can be nullified. Again, whether or not he would do this is debatable. I see these two fighting a war of attrition, both are very capable of beating each other.

This is one of the few I will do that ends - Itachi 50% Minato 50% because of how close they are and how many possible variables there are.

Next is Hashirama. Based on hype Hashirama would win, based on feats that have been showed Itachi would win. I just haven't seen enough of Hashirama to make a definitive argument, but I would say he is capable of beating Itachi.

Not enough info to make a definitive judgement.

Third was Madara. Based on hype Madara shouldn't have a serious problem, based on feats this is a decent fight. I'm going to wait to make a firm judgement on this one until it is confirmed he can use the powers of the six paths, amaterasu, and tsukoyomi. I'm going to assume that he can, but until it is seen for certainty I'm not going to waste time making a big arguement on it.

Under this assumption, Madara should win more than 50% of the time.

Fourth is Hiruzen. Again, based on hype Hiruzen (prime) should win. Based on feats I don't see him beating Itachi more often than Itachi beats him. Like Hashirama, I can't make a great arguement because we have such little information on Hiruzen in his prime. I would GUESS he would be capable of beating Itachi, but I can't give a win percentage on such little info.

Not enough info to make a definitive judgement.

I'm going to take a break and post the next four a little later.
Best post so far in this thread :)
 

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So for the most part you agree with most of what I said. The only people I said that I thought would lose and you didn't was Hashirama, and you put him in your not sure category.

Also Minato, but I said that the only way Itachi wins is if he gets Minato in a genjutsu just long enough to use Amaterasu or the Totsuka sword. That is the same way with Nagato. And yes the rinnegan has the possibility of seeinf through genjutsu, but even so they aren't immune to it at the outset, they have to see through it which takes time. Consider all the time Itachi had when Sasuke was trapped in his numerous genjutsus. He could have sealed him easily had he wanted to, he had plenty of time. Sasuke saw through those, but it took him some time. Breaking genjutsus isn't instant.

I want to reiterate that for the most part every high level ninja has a chance against every other high level ninja.
actually every time that happened it was only a couple of seconds because itachi was using the tsukuyomi which can turn one second into 3 days if he wants it to like he did to kakashi. anyway yea that seemed long because it showed th illusion that sasuke was in but really he was just standing there for like 3 seconds and he saw through it
 

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If telling the truth makes you brave, then I guess I am.xd

Gaara is a kage and he's the most improved fighter of them all -of course alongside Naruto and Sasuke. He is also the genious who figured out susanoo's weakness after only seeing it once.He defeated two kages, overcame adversity by defeating people with elemental advantages,plus he stopped A's killing blow (arguably fastest man alive) and amaterasu at the exact same time.It should also be noted that he's a long range fighter,who can also fight inside his sand bubble (with the third eye) and thus avoiding Itachi's genjutsu.
Far-fetched? I think not.... :eek:

that's debatable because there's no proof that itachi couldn't just use genjutsu on that eye, i mean afer all garra looks through it just like a normal eye so i don't see why not
 

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Here's the second part of my analysis. Before I start I want to correct something in my previous post: Madara has been showed using the powers of the six paths. I thought he hadn't yet, but then I remembered he absorbed rasenshuriken.

The fifth person mentioned was Sasuke (EMS). I don't think that Sasuke (MS) could beat Itachi very often. Itachi just has him outclassed in nearly every category. Sasuke (EMS) is another story though. Naturally, we've only seen literally one page of him with EMS in the manga - not enough information.

Not enough info to make a definitive judgement. I'll wait to see more of Sasuke's EMS powers.

The sixth person was Tobi. Tobi has a HUGE advantage in knowledge. Tobi appears to know everything there is to know about Itachi, and Itachi still thinks Tobi is Madara. There also haven't been any instances that Itachi is aware of the limitations of Tobi's intangibility jutsu, whereas Tobi seems to know virtually all of Itachi's jutsu. Tobi has even showed the ability to extinguish amaterasu when it hits him and not be damaged at all. If you include the six paths, then it's overkill. They were curb stomping Bee and Naruto at the same time. It's also likely that the jinchurriki are capable of rinnegan powers and haven't shown it yet, making them even more ridiculous.

I think Tobi would beat Itachi more than 50% of the time.

The seventh person mentioned was Kisame, a surprising choice. First off, Kisame does not appear to have any counter for genjutsu unless samehada is also capable of disrupting his chakra. An interesting thing I wondered is whether or not samehada could absorb susanoo. Susanoo is a chakra based jutsu so theoretically he should be able to. Of course, it is likely that even if he could absorb susanoo that the yata mirror would stop him. Kisame's best chance that I can figure is to get Itachi in the water dome. In there Kisame will be faster than Itachi and it would nullify Itachi's ability to use amaterasu since the attack would end up damaging himself (because amaterasu hits the first thing that his eye is in contact with, and underwater the first thing his eye would have contact with would be the WATER right in front of his eye.) It's possible that the yata mirror might stop the water, but again it is also possible Kisame could absorb his susanoo.

Despite this, Itachi still probably wins more than 50% of the time due to his probable inability to cope with Itachi's genjutsu. (I'm assuming samehada doesn't have the power to wake people up out of a genjutsu.)

The last person I will cover in this post is Muu. As so many people have mentioned in this thread, it is unclear whether or not Itachi would be able to see Muu while his invisibility jutsu is in effect. That is THE deciding factor in this fight. If Itachi can't see Muu then all of his attacks - genjusu included - become meaningless. As a side note, was it ever stated Muu had to be visible to use his dust element? I always just assumed that he APPEARED visible either for the reader's benefit or because Gaara's sand sensing jutsu was forcing him to stay visible.

If Itachi can see Muu while invisible he wins more than 50% of the time, if he can't then Muu wins more than 50% of the time.

I'm going to take another break, and then I'll cover the last characters provided by the original post. After that, I'll throw in a few other characters I think would have a shot.
 

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I don't think Muu,the 3rd raikage,tobirama or hiruzen could beat him i think sasori could win but with great dificulty because it wouldn't be easy for Itachi to hit him with amaterasu because he can jump from one puppet to another you could ad deidara to this list he can counter the tsukuyomi and he was wery confident that he will be able to beat him
 

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If telling the truth makes you brave, then I guess I am.xd

Gaara is a kage and he's the most improved fighter of them all -of course alongside Naruto and Sasuke. He is also the genious who figured out susanoo's weakness after only seeing it once.He defeated two kages, overcame adversity by defeating people with elemental advantages,plus he stopped A's killing blow (arguably fastest man alive) and amaterasu at the exact same time.It should also be noted that he's a long range fighter,who can also fight inside his sand bubble (with the third eye) and thus avoiding Itachi's genjutsu.
Far-fetched? I think not.... :eek:

that's debatable because there's no proof that itachi couldn't just use genjutsu on that eye, i mean afer all garra looks through it just like a normal eye so i don't see why not

I see the eye as a sepapate being with no direct link to Gaara, thus making him immune to genjutsu (through the eye).Debatable it is, but gaara is a long range fighter so he should be fine regardless (unless gaara stands face to face with him).
 
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