[Theory] What Pluton, Poseidon, and the 3rd unnamed Ancient Weapon are

[Boa Hancock]

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Sound good? Theorize away. I got this from AP. I'll put in my own 2 cents after some time.

 

[~Yubel~]

+rep for finding this out, there was another theory some time ago about this though, not sure if it was you who came up with it.

Guess Eneru will play a much bigger role then we thought.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

pluton blueprint is already burn by Franky right ?

 

[Boa Hancock]

+rep for finding this out, there was another theory some time ago about this though, not sure if it was you who came up with it.

Guess Eneru will play a much bigger role then we thought.

No it wasn't me, though I have posted a million times on other places about this.

pluton blueprint is already burn by Franky right ?

Yes, but that doesn't mean the first Pluton isn't still in Alabasta.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

No it wasn't me, though I have posted a million times on other places about this.



Yes, but that doesn't mean the first Pluton isn't still in Alabasta.

what ?! i thought the poneglhype at alabasta only contain the location which is in water 7 not the blue print

 

[~Yubel~]

Yes, but that doesn't mean the first Pluton isn't still in Alabasta.

Wait there is no proof it´s in alabasta, the poneglyph was there to tell where it was and franky had the blueprints for building it but i think franky had the blueprints for the ship itself as 2 of the weapons have massive arks prepared for them, who knows, maybe sunny will be the ark for pluton

 

[Boa Hancock]

what ?! i thought the poneglhype at alabasta only contain the location which is in water 7 not the blue print

Wait there is no proof it´s in alabasta, the poneglyph was there to tell where it was and franky had the blueprints for building it but i think franky had the blueprints for the ship itself as 2 of the weapons have massive arks prepared for them, who knows, maybe sunny will be the ark for pluton

There is. The Poneglyph in Alabasta told where its specific location is, and how to get it. Cobra asked Robin why she didn't tell Crocodile where it is, and Robin said she wasn't interested. Cobra's face during Robin's lie tells it all. He knows Pluton is resting deep inside his country, and he's the caretaker. Also, the idea isn't that farfetched when we see that Alabasta is the largest island we've seen so far in the Grand Line.

The blueprints of Pluton by Franky was with the purpose of building another Pluton to counter the first Pluton.

 

[Mugiwara]

The Pluton is a warship that is somewhere in Alabasta. What Franky had were the blueprints for it. Franky and Tom, the shipwrights were supposed to protect the blueprints, to keep them falling into the wrong hands, and they were supposed to use the blueprints to create ANOTHER, a second pluton, if the first one is revived, so they can use the second on to battle the first one.

Can't wait to find out what Zeus is probably some flying weapon. Like Maxim, the arc that Enel made.

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Sound good? Theorize away. I got this from AP. I'll put in my own 2 cents after some time.

Btw, those aren't the ancient weapons. Those are the skyfolk.
Birkans(The race of Enel and his priest, the one that they though was Pluton, note his wings), Shandians(its not a fish, but a wolf or something), and Skypiean.

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[Lili-Chwan]

That's very clever. I wonder...

 

[omkara]

+rep for finding this out, there was another theory some time ago about this though, not sure if it was you who came up with it.

Guess Eneru will play a much bigger role then we thought.

The discussion came up in this post below

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where "Nikos150" gave his side of story theorizing the possibility of the third weapon being on Raftel itself and I also provided my thoughts as the weapon being that of ZEUS.

But Enel has the Lightning DF which is supposedly the power of ZEUS as per Greek Myths. But I think this third weapon has nothing to do with the DF he is having. If at all there is a third weapon in existence, it would be well hidden and Enel doesn't even have the ability to decipher poneglyphs. So he may not have any idea of existence of this weapon (if at all there is one). I personally do not think him capable of yielding this weapon.

 

[Boa Hancock]

Btw, those aren't the ancient weapons. Those are the skyfolk.
Birkans(The race of Enel and his priest, the one that they though was Pluton, note his wings), Shandians(its not a fish, but a wolf or something), and Skypiean.

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I know. However, the uncanny parallel still exists.

Also, when you look at the descriptions, it ain't too far off. This also means that Enel might be coming back, or the moon is really some kind of Death Star (I'd rather not make any Naruto comparisons atm), or the Strawhats will go to the moon sometime after Raftel.

But Enel has the Lightning DF which is supposedly the power of ZEUS as per Greek Myths. But I think this third weapon has nothing to do with the DF he is having. If at all there is a third weapon in existence, it would be well hidden and Enel doesn't even have the ability to decipher poneglyphs. So he may not have any idea of existence of this weapon (if at all there is one). I personally do not think him capable of yielding this weapon.

The prevailing theory is yes, Enel's Maxim. However, I don't believe it's that flying ship that produces/enhances lightning after all. Also, I don't believe the superweapon's name is Zeus. I'd like to think its name starts with the letter P too, since while the name Poseidon is Greek, the name Pluton is not, for the word Pluto is Roman for Hades.

Also for one, we already have something that destroys the land, Pluton. The prevailing theory is that it's a ship that can destroy islands. Poseidon is Shirahoshi's power, that when used correctly, can make you undisputed ruler of the sea. It's logical to think you have something for the air too, like Rayquaza was to Kyogre and Groudon of Pokemon. I theorized it'll be something like Dance Powder and a machine able to scatter it into the air. The powder will be able to introduce a plague, hence death from the air. I really want it to be something flying though.

 

[omkara]

Also, when you look at the descriptions, it ain't too far off. This also means that Enel might be coming back, or the moon is really some kind of Death Star (I'd rather not make any Naruto comparisons atm), or the Strawhats will go to the moon sometime after Raftel.

I do not think the crew will be going to the moon. It will be too absurd. They promised to meet a lot of people on their way and probably after Raftel will take time in meeting them once again.

prevailing theory is yes, Enel's Maxim. However, I don't believe it's that flying ship that produces/enhances lightning after all. Also, I don't believe the superweapon's name is Zeus. I'd like to think its name starts with the letter P too, since while the name Poseidon is Greek, the name Pluton is not, for the word Pluto is Roman for Hades.

I wasn't saying Pluton was Greek, I meant all the names deal with greek Mythology. In other sense the third weapon has to do with some other name of ZEUS (His Roman counterpart is Jupiter , Hindu counterpart is Indra and Etruscan counterpart is Tinia.) I personally like the sound of JUPITER as the third weapon. But the main point here is the weapon existence and its possible location.

Also for one, we already have something that destroys the land, Pluton. The prevailing theory is that it's a ship that can destroy islands. Poseidon is Shirahoshi's power, that when used correctly, can make you undisputed ruler of the sea. It's logical to think you have something for the air too, like Rayquaza was to Kyogre and Groudon of Pokemon. I theorized it'll be something like Dance Powder and a machine able to scatter it into the air. The powder will be able to introduce a plague, hence death from the air. I really want it to be something flying though.

I agree with you to the theory that Pluton deals with LAND, Posiedon Deals with WATER and so it is possible that the third weapon has to deal with SKY. But I do not see how this third weapon can control skies? If we think about the SKY in terms of Weather, then the third weapon can be powerful in changing the earth's atmosphere which can be considered dangerous. I will stick to this theory of controlling Weather (like Nami) at large scale rather than something to do with SKY!!!

 

[Haruno Hyuuga Yamanaka]

I think the name of the third weapon is going to be Jupiter... it just fits, and it's the roman translation for the god Zeus if I'm not mistaken...

Either way, it's an interesting theory...

 

[Hyperion]

Something bothering me about this though.

Neptune = Roman
Poseidon = Greek

Zeus = Greek
Jupiter = Roman

Hades = Greek
Pluton = Roman

NOW, Neptune is the King and his Daughter is now supposedly Poseidon.
I know Oda isn't a complete dipshit like Kishi or Kubo, but is he mixing names/mythology or something?

Things we do know:

• Pluton = Warship
• Poseidon = Shirahoshi(Only stated as such, yet to be confirmed)
• Zeus = ???

Neptune = Poseidon for Mythology, but in OP just names? Is that all there is to it?

 

[omkara]

Something bothering me about this though.




NOW, Neptune is the King and his Daughter is now supposedly Poseidon.
I know Oda isn't a complete dipshit like Kishi or Kubo, but is he mixing names/mythology or something?

Things we do know:

• Pluton = Warship
• Poseidon = Shirahoshi(Only stated as such, yet to be confirmed)
• Zeus = ???

Neptune = Poseidon for Mythology, but in OP just names? Is that all there is to it?

I feel like he is connecting myths (Roman/Greek, Japanese, Indian)!!! Yes, he is probably screwing with names, but I am not too familiar with greek and roman myths to point out where he is deliberately doing it or he has his informational sources right!!! Anyway, these name can be considered a kind of hints to the main story.

Most of the theories here are based on the names itself!! So you can say Oda is toying with minds and playing with names.

 

[Love Cook]

Well might as well add another theory:

3 powers:

1 person
1 ship
1 devilfruit

If you have them all you can rule the seas. There is a more eleborate version somewhere. But you get the idea.

 

[omkara]

Well might as well add another theory:

3 powers:

1 person
1 ship
1 devilfruit

If you have them all you can rule the seas. There is a more eleborate version somewhere. But you get the idea.

Hmm ... interesting but what do you mean by one person (when referring to as power)?

 

[Love Cook]

Hmm ... interesting but what do you mean by one person (when referring to as power)?

Shirahoshi/poseidon

It's been said that the gura gura fruit holds the power to destroy the world.

So I guess the theory is Poseidon with the Gura Gura no mi on Pluton XD

 

[omkara]

Shirahoshi/poseidon

It's been said that the gura gura fruit holds the power to destroy the world.

So I guess the theory is Poseidon with the Gura Gura no mi on Pluton XD

I initially meant how can a person who wants to rule the seas possess another person?? Poseidon is altogether a different personal.

So far in the manga Oda has treated the weapons (Poseidon and Pluton) as the ultimate weaponry that altered the course of history. He described their existence as Epic-ness. I am not totally against your theory but I do not think Gura Gura no mi is such a powerful weapon that can alter the course of history. I also do not think the third weapon as a DF because, DF's though uncommon cannot provide epic-ness in-terms of power. So far all the DF's we know have a common weaknesses (Sea Water). I personally do not feel a DF epic when compared to the other two weapons!!!

 

[Boa Hancock]

I do not think the crew will be going to the moon. It will be too absurd. They promised to meet a lot of people on their way and probably after Raftel will take time in meeting them once again.

Skypeians, Shandians, and Bilkans come from the moon. Enel went to the moon. What's so absurd about others following him as well?

I wasn't saying Pluton was Greek, I meant all the names deal with greek Mythology. In other sense the third weapon has to do with some other name of ZEUS (His Roman counterpart is Jupiter , Hindu counterpart is Indra and Etruscan counterpart is Tinia.) I personally like the sound of JUPITER as the third weapon. But the main point here is the weapon existence and its possible location.

Except that we don't know if the name will really be Zeus or Jupiter or some other name variation. Oda really likes to throw curveballs.

I agree with you to the theory that Pluton deals with LAND, Posiedon Deals with WATER and so it is possible that the third weapon has to deal with SKY. But I do not see how this third weapon can control skies? If we think about the SKY in terms of Weather, then the third weapon can be powerful in changing the earth's atmosphere which can be considered dangerous. I will stick to this theory of controlling Weather (like Nami) at large scale rather than something to do with SKY!!!

What made you think I said it'll destroy the sky? I said that I think the next weapon will rain death FROM THE SKY not AT THE SKY. How the eff do you control skies anyway?