Neji vs Shikamaru

Neji vs Shikamaru


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Itachi Namikaze

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Neji fairly easily. Without a team Shikamaru is pretty useless. Have you ever seen any of his one on one fights? All he has ever done is stall so that someone can save him.

He did it against Tayuya, Temari, the Sound Ninja, everyone. Him fighting Hidan doesn't count because it was a trap already set specifically for Hidan by using someone else's blood. And that plan was only possible because of Kakashi, and the fact that Shikamaru had already lost.

Shikamaru loses big time.
 

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xd xd xd xd xd, why Shikamaru launch an attack from air, he sends another underground, Neji rotates and then Shikamaru control him from ground, Speed, Strength and Stamina is not Shikamaru's fighting style, read manga again
So? Ok it's not fighting style? So what? That's not a justification.
 
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Shikimaru shadows are chakra are chakra so they can't get near neji??
WTF

I mean , you should say naruto's rasen shuriken is chakra so neji can block it susanoo is just a mass of hatred chakra so its arrows and sword can't affect neji . Seriously , WTF
 

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Neji with medium difficulty. Neji would see every trap he would try to plan, every shadow from every direction. And for some reason ppl think neji stays in one spot and never pursue his opponent.lol he is also a strategist.

and the one fact ppl fail to realise is.. Neji doesn't have to rotate to protect himself. He doesn't even have to move to omit chakra from any part of his body. He can affect everything with in a certain range.haha

Against kisame he did 64 palms inside water prison/escaped with chakra alone. When kakashi was in the same jutsu he stood no chance.

Neji is just a bad match up for shika.
Draegod, I agree that Neji would win fairly easily but that one sentence is a completely misleading sentence. I called you out on this on your Byakugan thread back in May.

He can't affect anything, all he is doing is using chakra to divert things. He isn't a magician to where he can do anything he wants inside of a bubble. Reread the manga and you will see that what is happening is Neji is emitting chakra in a circle around his body so that he can divert attacks that he can't block and so that he doesn't have a blind spot. It was stated in the manga by kidoumarou.
 
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shikamaru takes this, with extreme difficulty reason is cause although shikamaru has little stamina, im sure if he wanna kill someone or go all out, someone like neji cant survive his wrath, also neji knows shikamaru is smarter than him so i think neji would be too concerned with wat shikamaru is plotting and jus fall into a shikamaru trap
"His wrath"? You mean like the super strategy he pulled off to Hidan with the help of Ino, Choji and Kakashi? That doesn't apply here.
Why?
1. No help from comrades.
2. Neither Neji or Shikamaru are allowed to set traps before the fight, and besides, like that Namikaze said, that traps was specifically designed for Hidan.
 

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Draegod, I agree that Neji would win fairly easily but that one sentence is a completely misleading sentence. I called you out on this on your Byakugan thread back in May.

He can't affect anything, all he is doing is using chakra to divert things. He isn't a magician to where he can do anything he wants inside of a bubble. Reread the manga and you will see that what is happening is Neji is emitting chakra in a circle around his body so that he can divert attacks that he can't block and so that he doesn't have a blind spot. It was stated in the manga by kidoumarou.
bruh thats what i mean, you just say it in a differnt way. that sphere of chakra can divert almost anything to his liking (arrows, kunais, stuff like that), and the fact that he showed him self making a seperate arrow miss on purpose. right here is when he activates this ability, right here is when the designated target (hardest arrow thingy.lol) is being controled by nejis chakra alone, and right here is when they say what i said. he can affect things to a certain extent, it was just that teh arrow was moving that it seemed little/to not matter. and right here is were kido realise that neji will not let a single dagger hit a vital organ with in the 50 meters (as in, neji will change the course of the objects with his chakra)


and right hear the reason why he couldnt affect it to much besides make it miss his blind spot because of the speed/power the arrow was coming in at. at that speed/power he was lucky to move it 15 cm from the original target.

basicly inside the chakra area he will sense and affect/detect everything with in the area.
 

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bruh thats what i mean, you just say it in a differnt way. that sphere of chakra can divert almost anything to his liking (arrows, kunais, stuff like that), and the fact that he showed him self making a seperate arrow miss on purpose. right here is when he activates this ability, right here is when the designated target (hardest arrow thingy.lol) is being controled by nejis chakra alone, and right here is when they say what i said. he can affect things to a certain extent, it was just that teh arrow was moving that it seemed little/to not matter. and right here is were kido realise that neji will not let a single dagger hit a vital organ with in the 50 meters (as in, neji will change the course of the objects with his chakra)


and right hear the reason why he couldnt affect it to much besides make it miss his blind spot because of the speed/power the arrow was coming in at. at that speed/power he was lucky to move it 15 cm from the original target.

basicly inside the chakra area he will sense and affect/detect everything with in the area.
You are giving me facts that I already know and have stated. :/

I said your sentence was misleading. You shouldn't say it that way, it leads people to think that he can control the things in that sphere when in fact he is just moving things around with his chakra, much like Naruto in his KM.
 

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Both, Shikamaru and Neji have a chance of winning this battle. However, I believe that even though Stamina, Speed & Strength aren't Shikamaru's strong points, his Intellect surpasses that of Neji's. That being said, in an encounter with Neji, Shikamaru will most likely try to out-wit him. Now, it's been proven that Neji is indeed a genius, but let's focus more on their fighting skills...

Neji is a close/mid range fighter due to his 64 and air palms, yet he lacks the usage of tools. These seem useless to him given the fact that he counts on:
1. Byakugan
2. Jyuuken
Sure, it seems pretty unnecessary to be talking about tools, but given the circumstances I believe that it would only seem fit that both parties would be able to use anything in their arsenal to help them out. As some have already pointed out, neither the terrain nor the time of day affect Neji as much as it would Shikamaru. But say we even out the playing field and focus on a justified area [Some place in the Leaf Village] in which these two can fight it out fairly [Where neither is at a disadvantage]. I agree that Shikamaru's Shadow Possessions have very few effect on Neji, but this is only if his Byagan is activated. Sure, a simple Rotation doesn't require the use of Neji's special eyes, and can easily repel any shadows coming his way [Even from underground] But let us not forget about his blind-spot. I'll specify on that later on.

In Shikamaru defense, if he were to ever encounter Neji in a match, he's most likely to know what Neji's fighting tactics are. This doesn't mean it gives him an advantage over Neji, it simply states that he won't be caught off-guard. He also has a larger variety of items on him, which might possibly come in handy if he were to set unexpected traps. Since his Taijutsu is not greater than that of Neji's, then he counts on the one factor he possess that IS better; Intelligence. He is also a superb strategist, one to plan tenths to hundreds steps ahead of his opponents. At this point I have not shown signs of who deserves to be crown winner yet because, let's face it... If they were ever to find their paths cross, then it cannot be denied that these two are the closest to the perfect opponent that they could ever have.
 

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Both, Shikamaru and Neji have a chance of winning this battle. However, I believe that even though Stamina, Speed & Strength aren't Shikamaru's strong points, his Intellect surpasses that of Neji's. That being said, in an encounter with Neji, Shikamaru will most likely try to out-wit him. Now, it's been proven that Neji is indeed a genius, but let's focus more on their fighting skills...

Neji is a close/mid range fighter due to his 64 and air palms, yet he lacks the usage of tools. These seem useless to him given the fact that he counts on:
1. Byakugan
2. Jyuuken
Sure, it seems pretty unnecessary to be talking about tools, but given the circumstances I believe that it would only seem fit that both parties would be able to use anything in their arsenal to help them out. As some have already pointed out, neither the terrain nor the time of day affect Neji as much as it would Shikamaru. But say we even out the playing field and focus on a justified area [Some place in the Leaf Village] in which these two can fight it out fairly [Where neither is at a disadvantage]. I agree that Shikamaru's Shadow Possessions have very few effect on Neji, but this is only if his Byagan is activated. Sure, a simple Rotation doesn't require the use of Neji's special eyes, and can easily repel any shadows coming his way [Even from underground] But let us not forget about his blind-spot. I'll specify on that later on.

In Shikamaru defense, if he were to ever encounter Neji in a match, he's most likely to know what Neji's fighting tactics are. This doesn't mean it gives him an advantage over Neji, it simply states that he won't be caught off-guard. He also has a larger variety of items on him, which might possibly come in handy if he were to set unexpected traps. Since his Taijutsu is not greater than that of Neji's, then he counts on the one factor he possess that IS better; Intelligence. He is also a superb strategist, one to plan tenths to hundreds steps ahead of his opponents. At this point I have not shown signs of who deserves to be crown winner yet because, let's face it... If they were ever to find their paths cross, then it cannot be denied that these two are the closest to the perfect opponent that they could ever have.
You mention that Shikamaru's Shadow Possesion can only affect Neji if his Byakugan is activated. Why would it not be activated? It only takes half a second to do so. Besides, Neji can emit chakra from his body without his Byakugan, so he doesn't need it to fend off Shikamaru's shadows. Other than this, you mention Shikamaru's ability to figure out Neji's "blind spot". I agree, Shikamaru does have the intellect to figure this out, however, Neji's "blind spot" has only been successfully hit by one person: Kidomaru. This is because he could control the projectile he sent towards Neji, directing it straight towards his "blind spot" and even so, Neji could evade one of his arrows. Shikamaru cannot do this, so even if he found out of his blind spot, to hit it would be pure luck. Another thing you mentioned were the traps. Most of Shikamaru's traps involve paper bombs or chakra strings which can be easily identified and avoided thanks to Neji's Byakugan. The traps that don't involve chakra would be lesser, and Neji would have no difficulty in avoiding them. Given it is a limited terrain (a stage) Shikamaru won't be able to set up any elaborate traps due to the fact that Neji would know the moment he starts setting up one and Neji could just be straigh up rushin' towards him to divert Shikamaru's attention from his strategies and traps to Neji's incoming attacks.

Neji, in my opinion, is the counter to most of Shikamaru's techniques. His traps, jutsus and fighting style are all a bad match up for Neji. I believe Neji has better chances at winning.
 
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You mention that Shikamaru's Shadow Possesion can only affect Neji if his Byakugan is activated. Why would it not be activated? It only takes half a second to do so. Besides, Neji can emit chakra from his body without his Byakugan, so he doesn't need it to fend off Shikamaru's shadows. Other than this, you mention Shikamaru's ability to figure out Neji's "blind spot". I agree, Shikamaru does have the intellect to figure this out, however, Neji's "blind spot" has only been successfully hit by one person: Kidomaru. This is because he could control the projectile he sent towards Neji, directing it straight towards his "blind spot" and even so, Neji could evade one of his arrows. Shikamaru cannot do this, so even if he found out of his blind spot, to hit it would be pure luck. Another thing you mentioned were the traps. Most of Shikamaru's traps involve paper bombs or chakra strings which can be easily identified and avoided thanks to Neji's Byakugan. The traps that don't involve chakra would be lesser, and Neji would have no difficulty in avoiding them. Given it is a limited terrain (a stage) Shikamaru won't be able to set up any elaborate traps due to the fact that Neji would know the moment he starts setting up one and Neji could just be straigh up rushin' towards him to divert Shikamaru's attention from his strategies and traps to Neji's incoming attacks.

Neji, in my opinion, is the counter to most of Shikamaru's techniques. His traps, jutsus and fighting style are all a bad match up for Neji. I believe Neji has better chances at winning.
The possibility of the Shadow Possession actually working still stands, let us not forget that. And depending how strong it is, Neji could either be helplessly under the control of Shikamaru or easily repel it with a burst of Chakra that comes from out of his body. As to Neji having his Byakugan activated, Ill give you that. He might probably be thinking that with an opponent like Shikamaru, he must end things quick in order to not give him the opportunity to catch him off-guard. But Shikamaru still anticipates every possible outcome of the match. Unless Neji can get rid of Shikamaru's chakra quickly, the possibility of Shikamaru winning still exist.
You say that Shikamaru's traps are chakra based, need I remind you that not all traps are chakra based. Plus as I mentioned earlier, Shikamaru is an excellent strategist. He counts on his surrounding + abilities to win a match. I must disagree with you when you give these two a certain amount of terrain [stage] to fight in. In order for it to be a fair match, bth parties should have the liberty to go wherever they feel fit to go in order to win.
 

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The possibility of the Shadow Possession actually working still stands, let us not forget that. And depending how strong it is, Neji could either be helplessly under the control of Shikamaru or easily repel it with a burst of Chakra that comes from out of his body. As to Neji having his Byakugan activated, Ill give you that. He might probably be thinking that with an opponent like Shikamaru, he must end things quick in order to not give him the opportunity to catch him off-guard. But Shikamaru still anticipates every possible outcome of the match. Unless Neji can get rid of Shikamaru's chakra quickly, the possibility of Shikamaru winning still exist.
You say that Shikamaru's traps are chakra based, need I remind you that not all traps are chakra based. Plus as I mentioned earlier, Shikamaru is an excellent strategist. He counts on his surrounding + abilities to win a match. I must disagree with you when you give these two a certain amount of terrain [stage] to fight in. In order for it to be a fair match, bth parties should have the liberty to go wherever they feel fit to go in order to win.
It is unlikely for one of Shikamaru's shadow to touch Neji because he can clearly see them from a distance and if he thinks he won't be able to dodge them, he can simply use rotation. Assuming the shadows do get Neji, he can (as you said) emit chakra from his body to cut loose. I wouldn't rely on shadows if I were Shikamaru, it's not smart. Seeing this, he has only Taijutsu and Tools left. His taijutsu is weaker than Neji's and in close-range combat, Neji would win unanimously. As in for tools, you are referring to traps. As I said before he won't have the time nor the opportunity to do so and even if he does, if they are chakra based, Neji can detect them.

As for the stage, I have to disagree. Almost every Naruto battle has been within a limited area, and besides, Shikamaru would use the "free roam" opportunity to run away. This is useless because Neji would just follow him with his Byakugan and would detect any trap that would be set. You're also underestimating Neji's intelligence. He knows Shikamaru is renowned for being a superb strategist, he will be paying extra attention to any sketchy patterns or moves and won't let any opening go away. Shikamaru's traps only work with time and help. It would be basically impossible, for Shikamaru to arrange time to think and execute a strategy (traps or whatever) with Neji on his tail seeing everything chakra-related Shikamaru does thanks to his Byakugan. If it's within a limited area, it is impossible.

Hyuga > Nara
 
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