[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 565 Discussion and 566 Predictions
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yondaimeminato
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sasuke was able to counter raikages speed with his sharingan (not raikage's top speed but his the speed that naruto was using to keep up with raikage's movement before raikage used his top speed against naruto). You can use speed but if you can react to the speed then the one using the speed is useless. It takes lesser time to dodge/react to a high speed since reactions doesn't take a lot of distance to avoid. Someone can come to you from 200 yards at top speed but with a simple bending of a neck you can dodge a punch but only if your reaction time is as fast or faster than the one using high speed. This hosts have both sharingans and rinnegan. A shared field vision and a sharingan that allows to see high speed moves as if they were normal speed movement increases their reaction time. It's like when naruto awakened his nine tail demon fox cloak power against sasuke and sasuke wasn't able to react or keep up with the speed of naruto until sasuke awaken his three tomoe sharingan. It was then that high speed seemed normal speed to sasuke and he was able to save more chakra by dodging high speed attacks.
Yondaime Minato didn't need determination to use his high speed and that's because he was confident of utilizing his speed. Naruto has only used this yondaime-like speed twice and you can not expect him to be able to use it all the time like yondaime minato. Naruto still needs to learn Time/Space jutsu (FGT). The reason why yondaime minato appeared to his enemy with the knife already around their necks or appeared with the kunai already stabbing the enemy before they knew it, it's because he uses time/space jutsu and adds his speed to it (FGT). Time/Space combined with speed is the reason why FGT is so deadly.
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If naruto wants to get this level which he is not yet, he has to learn FGT and combine it with his speed.
Tsunade is saving FGT for naruto so naruto doesn't know how to use FGT yet.
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Bashuzumaki
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Finally !!! I totally agree. This is also why I made the theory that.. at this time there is no way Naruto is gonna be able to beat Tobi.
Minato was only just a little bit faster than Tobi w/ FTG tech.
As we have ssen so far Naruto is not yet able to use all of the 9tails fox's chakra at will.
Right now he is fighting the jinchuriki . Utilizing the fox's chakra.
Something or someone is gonna have to intervene.
I do believe that once Naruto is able to use FTG he will surpass his father use of it because he wont to the Kunai to utilize FTGT he will be able to sense where he wants to go.
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Phoenix Sage
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It is probably a necessary risk. Without obtaining the last two bijuu, Tobi is unable to move forward with his plan. His thought process imo, is "I need all my most powerful weapons to take on the two most powerful bijuu."
It is not going to be close to easy to be able to battle the Hachibi and Kyuubi enough to to weaken and rip them out of their Jinjuuriki.
My theory is that if/when Naruto rips off the masks Tobi won't be able to use his Edo Jins as that is his method of sending chakra to them. (As Nagato had receivers wedged into his back to control Pein)
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Thank you for stating the obvious answer to "Why was his (Madara/Tobi hair longer/shorter?"
To anyone who wants to rule out who is who based on the look of their hair:flaw::flaw::flaw:!!!
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I see ur point but tobi is not madara
1. Madara himself mentioned of a second accomplice
2. In order to be summoned u have to be dead.
3. Tobi's knowledge of the truth of what went on at the valley, the uchiha tablet etc.
4. Both ninjas have different character traits, edo madara more arrogant and tobi more calculative.
5.Now in chap 501 pg 8 kyubi recognized who was summoming it but he said YOU not madara unlike other reffrences who's to say it was izuna, itachi did say the purpose of getting the mangekyou sharingan is to control the fox and both man had it and madara did even get to control the fox till he got the EMS
NOW saying all these I am going to contradict myself. Tobi did say in the past that NAGATO betrayed him by dying that his renningan powers was ment for him and now edo madara thought that was revived by nagato but this is the kicker some had to transfer madara eye to nagato to developed.
My ans is still IZUNA since we now know that his eyes was given voluntary and the real reason that madara challenged hashirama was to obtain his powers and there two people involved. zetsu would be the other option but was maid out first hokage's DNA so he is out.
Ok. Decent logic.
I first want to point out tht ur comparing the eyes of Sasuke, a genius among Uchiha who has the potential to surpass Itachi and has similar chakra to tht of Madara; to average(0r atleast lesser) uchiha sharingan that have been implanted in non-Uchiha. But that is irrelivant, i wont argue based on tht. Haha.
What u say about FTGT is true.
I believe the HIM Tsunade mentioned was a typo. I believe she was actualy saying they would use the FTGT to get the Mizukage to the Edo Madara battlefield so there is someone there to counter fire techniques. To get the full picture u have to read from page 7 of that chapter.
Now for an actual response to what we are discussing. All im saying is that Naruto isnt utilising his speed in any way. Raikage can dodge just about anything with his regular Lightning Armor speed, yet this guy(Naruto) who is just as fast and has an added sensor ability, keeps taking damage left and right. Wether it be not properly dodging attacks or taking a boot to the face. Naruto has only went on the offense twice so far. First with rasengan, and unless Bee is as fast as the Raikage when hes in his armor, it means Naruto was not using his speed during tht attack. Then instead of trying to use his speed in anyway, he went and took a direct hit to land a hit. A hit he could have blocked with chakra arms instead of his actual arms. Basicaly i dont like the fight so far cuz the the creator isnt letting the character utilize the abilities hes developed.:hypertobi:
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lol. Its been a while since I re-read the Tobi vs. Minato fight. Tobi was like "Are u trying to pull the 9tails free from my control", Minato:"No, I already did". Always cracks me up how hard he gets owned right there. Seeing Minato fight saddens me cuz i kno tht unless there is another timeskip or major training, Naruto will never get close to Minato's lvl b4 the series ends. Thts based on wat ive seen thus far from Naruto in a fight he knows is to save the world. Minato goes in full power going for the kill.
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It's been a while since I read the Tobi / Konan fight. At the end, when he takes the rinnegan from Nagato, he says that he was the third of the six paths (and that Hashirama and Madara were the first two). Is it possible that Tobi wants to use Naruto and Sasuke as the fourth and fifth paths, making himself the sixth? Just a question. Please don't flame me. 
I really like your theories as well.
Just one thing though. The sharringan in the jinchuriki are not implanted, niether is the rinnegan. They are the eyes of the caster or the one who is controlling them.
Therefore we do not know how powerful the sharringan is. Being that it belongs to Tobi I would not be to worried to bet that they are on par or better than Sauske's at the time when he fought Raikage.
So it wouldnt be too much of a stretch to think that those jinchuriki with Tobi's sharringan could dodge Naruto.
Ok. I think i get wat ur saying for the most part evn tho it wasnt easy to grasp cuz of how u typed it.
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Based on what the kages were saying, ive come to 2 conclusions:
1.Tobi was simply lying, using the "ideal" of Madara to help acheive the objectives of the plan he and Madara created. And at the same time he could have been carrying out Madara's plan acting in his place till his return so took on his name to keep the name relevant in the world.
or.
2.As i said, some way, some how, they are both Madara and Kishi got some splanin to do. Cuz i dont get how Tobi refered to himself as Madara, speaking of Madara's actions as his own evn when hes about to kill Konan. Btw I find it interestin that he discarded the name when Naruto asked him about his true identity evn tho he was so adamant about being Madara all through the series.
Edo Madara mentioned Nagato. That automaticaly means Madara was alive atleast up until Nagato was discovered to be a candidate to use the rinnegan. Thinkin about it.. where would the rinnegan had come from if not from Madara who had gained the rinnegan through combining his and Hashirama's power? It is posible that Madara died wen his eyes were taken to be given to Nagato as part of his grand plan of the "Future".:hypertobi:
The rinnegan i kno is being projected from Tobi. But normaly the Sharingan is only projected when it is being used to control someone. I doubt u can get the abilities of the Sharingan without having the physical eye itself(an informed assumption). So i think the rinnegan is being projected while Bee and 8tails are right when they say the sharingans are implanted. And lol, Naruto hasnt been using his speed so there is nothing for them to use the sharingan to dodge anyway.smh lol.:hypertobi:
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yondaimeminato
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If I had to make a guess I would say that someone will be Uchiha Itachi. He is already heading for Kabuto which kabuto has no idea. Since all those six jinchurikis are from the impure world resurrection, Itachi can cancel that jutsu by killing kabuto and all those six jinchurikis bodies will turn to the dead bodies that they were before.
Plus, at this moment Tobi is just toying with naruto and has no intention of hurting naruto to extreme extent. Tobi is testing naruto's capabilities. Sasuke has already told Tobi that he will be the one to fight naruto and Tobi is dying to see sasuke fight naruto.
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Neloangelo13
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You just throw some pictures there. Let me explain what i think is happening at those pics. The part where Tobi said the Sharingan's true powers, my powers, Uchiha Madara's powers is a key phrase imho. When someone is talking at the third person there are two occassions. One he is talking about someone else and two he is a psycho that has pretty high self esteem and is referring to himself. Madara is the exact opposite of a phycho. He knew exactly what he was doing, he wasnt driven by insanity or anything similar. The other pics that Itachi says to Sasuke that there is another Sharingan user and pinpoints him as Uchiha Madara have some flaws or Kishi intentionally did this to fool us thinking Tobi IS actually Uchiha Madara. When Itachi killed his clan he talked to Sasuke about another person with the Mangekyou Sharingan. That further fooled us believing that Tobi is for sure Uchiha Madara. There are two explanations about this. A) Itachi met the real Madara before he died (although this doesnt fit the time that the actual Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan) and B) Tobi is really and Uchiha and show Itachi his MS. Either those two OR Kishimoto changed in the meantime and switched Tobi's identity to another person and as a result we are trying to collect pieces that doesnt fit together. Last but not least i think that Tobi is a non-Uchiha, a Zetsu-type clone.Zetsu can copy a person down to his chakra, so that may explain why Itachi thought that Tobi is Uchiha Madara.
Yeap this is Uchiha Izuna his little brother.
He didnt kill him. Izuna died at the battlefield with honor while fighting blindly.
According to Tobi. Izuna willingly gave his eyes to Madara in order to help him guide his clan further.
According to Itachi. Madara ripped out Izuna's eyes to regain his sight and continue his plans. (although this is unlikely in my opinion cause imagine a blind guy and another one with the MS sharingan. how the heck can u lose ur eyes to a blind man and while u possess such power? Only if he caught him off guard.)
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You are right we havent seen any non Uchiha with more than one eye. And maybe u are right cause except for Kakashi who got the only Sharingan that he could get from Obito there is Ao as well that got the Byakugan. Why didnt he implanted the other as well. Well maybe in order to not give away the secret that his village has the Byakugan but still makes us think that maybe its impossible to handle two implanted eyes. Here is the tricky part though that support my theory. Zetsu can copy the person. Remember when he entered Sakura's tent at the war? He had the Byakugan as Neji didnt he? I dont see a reason to not copy an Uchiha and as a result have in both eyes the dojutsu.
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