edo madara vs nagato and konan
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FloriGlori
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Nagato is near Madara's power? I just can't take you seriously.
Madara will crush them without much trouble.
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how ? when nagato can repel or absorbe anything madara can do? you cant just put power into the equation and expect who ever has the most to win,
nagato has way more experience with his powers than madara does, as it is evident by the way they both fight, nagato uses strategy whilst madara just seems to be randomly using each power and it seems nagato can use them simultaneously without any intervals, That plus with konan by his side he should bye enough time to remove madaras soul, close range or long range depending on weather nagato has control of gedo mazou. nagato vs madara is 50/50 nagat and konan vs madara is 65% to nagto.
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My dear, I definitely did not do that. It's just common sense that Madara wins this one. Despite that Nagato can't really absorb or repell anything, Madara can do the same.
But what you are saying is totally pointless. It doesn't matter if Nagato has a slightly better controll over his Rinnegan, because Madara can use the eternal Mangekyou and Mokuton in addition. He's like a combination of Nagato, Hashirama and Itachi with greater chakra. At the moment he's simply toying with his enemies. Nagato alone wouldn't stand a chance, Konan won't change that.
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The better fighter definitely is Madara. The better strategist is unknown, since we didn't see any srategic moves from both of them, but Madara has way more possibilities and is only toying with the Kage.
Who can make better use of the pure Rinnegan is totally meaningless, since Madara can also use the eternal Mangekyou and Mokuton. And combining his eternal Mangekyou with the Rinnegan definitely gives him the better controll over those eyes - for example the meteor, which requires both Susanoo and Rinnegan.
Who can make better use of the pure Rinnegan is totally meaningless, since Madara can also use the eternal Mangekyou and Mokuton. And combining his eternal Mangekyou with the Rinnegan definitely gives him the better controll over those eyes - for example the meteor, which requires both Susanoo and Rinnegan.
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The better fighter definitely is Madara
What has madara done to make you thinkhe is the better fighter?
The better strategist is unknown, since we didn't see any srategic moves from both of them,
Clearly ignoring the invasion of konoha and the six paths of Pein jutsu (which is a strategy)
for example the meteor, which requires both Susanoo and Rinnegan.[/
The source of this info being your azz i assume ? can you prove that it requires susano? because bansho tenin can have the same effect just by simply calling down meteors.
And like i said before it doesn't matter how strong the ninjitsu is because he can either repel or absorb it, so bringing up the ems means nothing
The better fighter definitely is Madara
What has madara done to make you thinkhe is the better fighter?
The better strategist is unknown, since we didn't see any srategic moves from both of them,
Clearly ignoring the invasion of konoha and the six paths of Pein jutsu (which is a strategy)
for example the meteor, which requires both Susanoo and Rinnegan.[/
The source of this info being your azz i assume ? can you prove that it requires susano? because bansho tenin can have the same effect just by simply calling down meteors.
And like i said before it doesn't matter how strong the ninjitsu is because he can either repel or absorb it, so bringing up the ems means nothing
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he said the better strategist is unknown becos we have not seen madara's strategies so u can't assume since nagato had good strategy in konoha does not automatically make him better.
and he can only repel once in 5 secs or so he can't do that back and forth and did u forget he also has genjutsu or can nagato magically beat that also but ninjutsu wise nagato can absorb it but also remember that madara can do the same and the meteor isn't something he can absorb its a meteor not ninjutsu he is pulling a meteor down.
madara's techs seem to be on another level look at the difference in the size of their attacks and not only that kabuto calls him the trump card for the reason he is that powerful and not to mention the fact that he was the one that scared tobi not nagato or itachi this should be obvious madara is on different level than nagato kishi almost outright tells us that.
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What has madara done to make you thinkhe is the better fighter?
Are you serious? I suggest you refresh your knowledge of Naruto, it seems that you don't possess that much of it. Even with his normal Mangekyou Madara was feared as the strongest Shinobi in the world. The only match for him was Hashirama, whose abilities are now Madara's as well. He conquered each clan he encountered and even his name itself has enough power to make the countries form an alliance. He can do everything Nagato can do, he can use the legendary eternal Mangekyou, and Hashirama's powerful Mokuton.
Clearly ignoring the invasion of konoha and the six paths of Pein jutsu (which is a strategy)
I don't see any impressive strategic aspect at Pain's invasion. So you think Madara couldn't create 'Pain'? Pain actually is evidence of Nagato's stupidity, since he wouldn't even be crippled if he hadn't use Gedo Mazo.
The source of this info being your azz i assume ? can you prove that it requires susano? because bansho tenin can have the same effect just by simply calling down meteors.
And like i said before it doesn't matter how strong the ninjitsu is because he can either repel or absorb it, so bringing up the ems means nothing
..yes, I already see that discussing with somebody like you is pointless. My source is that Susanoo was forming handseals with each of its four arms. But believing that Nagato can use Bansho Tennin to call down a meteor is pretty.. dumb. And I'm using that term very loosely. The same goes for assuming that Nagato could absorb a Meteor. But saying the eternal Mangekyou are useless is the crowning glory. There's Susanoo, there are ilussions, there's Amaterasu and a fourth technique. I'll stop this discussion right here.
Are you serious? I suggest you refresh your knowledge of Naruto, it seems that you don't possess that much of it. Even with his normal Mangekyou Madara was feared as the strongest Shinobi in the world. The only match for him was Hashirama, whose abilities are now Madara's as well. He conquered each clan he encountered and even his name itself has enough power to make the countries form an alliance. He can do everything Nagato can do, he can use the legendary eternal Mangekyou, and Hashirama's powerful Mokuton.
Clearly ignoring the invasion of konoha and the six paths of Pein jutsu (which is a strategy)
I don't see any impressive strategic aspect at Pain's invasion. So you think Madara couldn't create 'Pain'? Pain actually is evidence of Nagato's stupidity, since he wouldn't even be crippled if he hadn't use Gedo Mazo.
The source of this info being your azz i assume ? can you prove that it requires susano? because bansho tenin can have the same effect just by simply calling down meteors.
And like i said before it doesn't matter how strong the ninjitsu is because he can either repel or absorb it, so bringing up the ems means nothing
..yes, I already see that discussing with somebody like you is pointless. My source is that Susanoo was forming handseals with each of its four arms. But believing that Nagato can use Bansho Tennin to call down a meteor is pretty.. dumb. And I'm using that term very loosely. The same goes for assuming that Nagato could absorb a Meteor. But saying the eternal Mangekyou are useless is the crowning glory. There's Susanoo, there are ilussions, there's Amaterasu and a fourth technique. I'll stop this discussion right here.
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Nagato as better control of the rinnegan, he has more experience with it, he has shown better feats with it. The only reason Madara is above Nagato is bec his an edo and Kabuto gave him a power boost.
With Konan on Nagato side they will beat Madara.
dude kishi won't show u feats in a few chapters its like saying pain/nagato weak after only seeing him for 3 chapters does that make any sense really no right u did not see all his potential where as u did for nagato. not only that if u look at the feats he has shown with rinnegan its on a whole another level than nagato ie his meteor in comparison. do u even kno what the powerboost is? no then leave that for later which is probably the integration of senju cells
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he did not gain the powers of rinnegan from kabuto that is something which is his own power as mentions in 561 or 562. madara is on another level he has ems, rinnegan and mokuton while nagato only has rinnegan which indicates something to u and like i said b4 in terms of feats u cannot make a direct comparison but from what madara has shown its on a whole new level.
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Edo Madara did not get rinnegan from Madara but he got a power boost is what am saying, Edo Madara is stronger then Nagato but there in the same league
If were to put numbers on their powers.
Nagato=45
Edo Madara= 55
I don't get what u mean by edo madara did not get the rinnegan from madara u know that he did get the rinnegan by himself and has additional powers with ems and its abilities and also has mokuton he is just on a another level now with all these.powers. and about the powerboost is unknown what he got from kabuto but we ono the rinnegan and its abilities are his powers. And as I said we from direct comparisons between them two with rinnegan powers madara seems to be better ie look at the level of the meteor and the ease at which he is using it. And we cant put numbers on characters I feel that is not really accurate but I guess we'll wait and see about madara and feats to fully confirm that
I meant he did not get it from Kabuto but he got it himself when he was alive but was still weaker then his edo self, sorry for the typo.
But it's my personal guess (not fact) if we were to put numbers on the both Nagato and Madara it would be
Nagato= 45
Edo Madara= 55
EMS Madara= 42
Hashirama= 43
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B]ie look at the level of the meteor and the ease at which he is using it. using the meteor? its falling ( kenetic energy) we dont even know the requiremnets to summon it.
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