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Who do you think Tobi is:

  • Jubbi

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Sage of Six Paths

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Elder son of Sage of Sixth Path

    Votes: 65 9.3%
  • Izuna uchiha

    Votes: 105 15.0%
  • Kagami uchiha

    Votes: 71 10.1%
  • Obito Uchiha

    Votes: 77 11.0%
  • Fugaku Uchiha

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Zetsu

    Votes: 16 2.3%
  • Madara's split personality (created before original body died.)

    Votes: 66 9.4%
  • A copycat whose rolemodel is Madara.

    Votes: 13 1.9%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • An unknown Uchiha

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • Real Madara in Zetsu body

    Votes: 28 4.0%
  • Some one from Madara's time ( can't decide though)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Danzou

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • Setsuna Uchiha

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • Shisui

    Votes: 14 2.0%
  • An Uzumaki

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Madara's Son

    Votes: 23 3.3%
  • A woman

    Votes: 21 3.0%
  • Obito's father

    Votes: 19 2.7%
  • Someone Other than these

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • First Edo tensie

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • An alien ( Superman/ HeMan/whatnot)

    Votes: 7 1.0%
  • I am the best. I have no theory. ( Not anymore at least.)

    Votes: 22 3.1%

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Re: Tobi (Official Breakdown) Warning Official

1.The 10 tail is a 'beast' not a man.

2. The 10 tails chakra was divided into 9 different tailed beasts by the Sage.

3. In the Naruto world, the Juubi's body is the moon, becuz of the Chibaku Tensei used by the Sage.

4. If the moon is the body, and the other bijjus have its chakra, then how is Tobi=10 tails?
 

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1.The 10 tail is a 'beast' not a man.

2. The 10 tails chakra was divided into 9 different tailed beasts by the Sage.

3. In the Naruto world, the Juubi's body is the moon, becuz of the Chibaku Tensei used by the Sage.

4. If the moon is the body, and the other bijjus have its chakra, then how is Tobi=10 tails?
1. Who says the "beast" has to take form in the shape of a beast? cant it have any form it wants, especially with the powers it supposedly holds.

2. True.

3. Also true.

4. Because you assume that it can't manifest itself in another form. Simply because all the other tailed beasts take their form its because they are not strong enough to make themselves into any form they want.
 

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Forgive my bad english >_<

To,Ju = 10
Bi,Bibu= Tail or Tails

I believe that "Tobi" is the 10 tails "Jubi" In Kun Reading Japanese Ju is replace with To. Making the name "Tobi" Ten Tails. The reason Tobi know so much about Ridoku "SO6P History is because he's the 10 tails its self in a body not his own.
The "SO6P" received the rinnengan from the 10 Tails "Tobi" Or "Jubi" (Same Meaning) Which makes sense when Tobi says
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Which would mean he also gave Madara the rinnengan no matter how it was obtained by this "Uchiha" making "Madara" a victim of this society as well a powerful victim reaching for his own type of peace as well. I see Saskue as a modern day "Madara" which this cycle of hate will end with the reborn sage "Naruto"
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As brought up befor when Tobi was speaking to Naruto the said "He Reminds me of him" and a picture of the first hokage showed up, I believe what Tobi really meant was Naruto Reminds Tobi (Ten Tails ) Of Ridoku (SO6P)
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The only other option of Tobi being anyone eles would be Izuna and even than, I can't picture Tobi being anyone eles but the Jubi Its self. Remember Jubi means Tobi Ju= 10 To= 10 Bi= Tails.

This would explain why he was a adult at the time the fox attacked konoha and why madara knows him. this manifestation (tobi) is able to go through time and space cause he is no one, he is just chakra from ten tail beast. Is this the reason for him to want all the parts from the nine tail beast? Which are to awaken the 10 tail beast, wich is awaken himself from slumber.

Lastly when Tobi said that technique was suppose to be saved for me! Referring to Nagato using Gedo Rinne Tensei Jutsu, maybe this Gedo Rinne Tensei was suppose to be used to bring back the Jubi's "Tobi's Orginal Form?

Your thoughts and ideas are warmly welcomed & whom ever you may think "tobi" is his ultimate goal to to achieve the 10 tails body which would make "Tobi" in the end the 10 tails regardless. Naruto "The Light" Tobi "The Darkness" & Saskue just falls in between and is a representation of the cycle that will be ended.

1. Who says the "beast" has to take form in the shape of a beast? cant it have any form it wants, especially with the powers it supposedly holds.

2. True.

3. Also true.

4. Because you assume that it can't manifest itself in another form. Simply because all the other tailed beasts take their form its because they are not strong enough to make themselves into any form they want.
Open the spoiler above, see the bolded, the Op says Tobi is just chakra from the Juubi, but if the chakra was already sealed then this is impossible. The only option is that some portion was left over that became a manifestation of Tobi, is that what you're trying to say? The problem then is:

Why would the Juubi want to cast an infinite tsukiomi? The beast wanted mass destruction, not world peace through universal genjutsu.

About the 4th point, lol really? A simple genin can do a transformation jutsu, zetsus can take the form of others, whats to stop a tailed beast? Answer: they don't want/need to hide in the shape of a man, their primary urge is for destruction, intimidation like the Kyuubi.

And also, the demonic Ten Tails was the stuff of legend. Why would it claim to be 'nobody'...?
 

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Tobi is Madaras pet. Just the like Tobi from Paranormal Activity was the ladies pet.
 

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Interesting theory. But i think that Tobi is a clone that was created with Hashiramas and Madaras dna.The first Zetsu. He used his technique and copied Madaras appearance but because unlike the other clones he had free will he disobeyed Madaras orders and he put his own plan in motion.The real Madara ordered him to give Nagato the rinengan (i don't know how he did that) because he wanted pain to resurrect him with his technique after he died.
 

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Re: Tobis Face (Big hint!!)

so it looks like tablet might be on to something...if you read antihero's forum about the 3rd eye, manga 398, on of the last couple of pages showing the uchicha with madara, it looks like there is a eye on his forehead, thats gotta be foreshadowing something.



first pic, hes beside madara..(dude with ponytail i think is madara lol)
 
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Open the spoiler above, see the bolded, the Op says Tobi is just chakra from the Juubi, but if the chakra was already sealed then this is impossible. The only option is that some portion was left over that became a manifestation of Tobi, is that what you're trying to say? The problem then is:

Why would the Juubi want to cast an infinite tsukiomi? The beast wanted mass destruction, not world peace through universal genjutsu.

About the 4th point, lol really? A simple genin can do a transformation jutsu, zetsus can take the form of others, whats to stop a tailed beast? Answer: they don't want/need to hide in the shape of a man, their primary urge is for destruction, intimidation like the Kyuubi.

And also, the demonic Ten Tails was the stuff of legend. Why would it claim to be 'nobody'...?
I knew you were going to prepare a counterargument. And I like the points you are trying to make. But we are making theorys here, we are trying to think outside the box. Hell, in another thread someone said that Tobi is going back and forth through time.

Also about the eye of moon plan. If by some divine miracle this theory is correct, lets assume for arguments sake. Then he may just be saying this as a cover up and his true intentions are to destroy the world. But who knows really. At this point almost anything goes.

And to clear up my fourth point. In essence, what I was trying to get across is simply to think outside the box.

I'm neither rejecting what I just stated previously, nor am I agreeing completely with you. We are just laying cards on the table. So what will you say to my response?
 
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its a very interesting idea...i dont believe tobi is any of the uchiha we already have threaded ovr 100's of times...i def believe tobi is truly something like this...just cant quite pinpoint what. great job!
 

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I knew you were going to prepare a counterargument. And I like the points you are trying to make. But we are making theorys here, we are trying to think outside the box. Hell, in another thread someone said that Tobi is going back and forth through time.

Also about the eye of moon plan. If by some divine miracle this theory is correct, lets assume for arguments sake. Then he may just be saying this as a cover up and his true intentions are to destroy the world. But who knows really. At this point almost anything goes.

And to clear up my fourth point. In essence, what I was trying to get across is simply to think outside the box.

I'm neither rejecting what I just stated previously, nor am I agreeing completely with you. We are just laying cards on the table. So what will you say to my response?
Two words: plus reps.

Thank you for not being stubborn like sooo many people here.

And you're right, that we need to think outside the box and consider all options, but sometimes kishi just tries to keep making us second guess ourselves to keep the story interesting. In my opinion, we might have thought a little too far out here but who knows, right?

I'm tempted to make a giant Tobi identity thread evaluating all options, and this adds more lol.
 
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Two words: plus reps.

Thank you for not being stubborn like sooo many people here.

And you're right, that we need to think outside the box and consider all options, but sometimes kishi just tries to keep making us second guess ourselves to keep the story interesting. In my opinion, we might have thought a little too far out here but who knows, right?

I'm tempted to make a giant Tobi identity thread evaluating all options, and this adds more lol.
Same goes to you. plus rep. I believe Kishi is going to come up with a plot twist bigger than all the Lost episodes combined haha. And go for the thread. Maybe you might find out that compiling a bunch of information together leads to questions being answered.
 

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Same goes to you. plus rep. I believe Kishi is going to come up with a plot twist bigger than all the Lost episodes combined haha. And go for the thread. Maybe you might find out that compiling a bunch of information together leads to questions being answered.
On these forums and others i've seen about 10 different options for who Tobi may be, including this one. Most options include an uchiha and hint at a possible zetsu connection in unravelling the mystery.For me, i don't give those things as much importance as 'how does Tobi have space time?' 'how does he know so much about the history of the uchiha and of the SO6P?' ' what was his connection to real Madara and who was the original mastermind, Madara or Nagato?' etc.
 
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