[Predictions] Complete Susanoo

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When we say "complete" Susanoo we're talking about it's last stage or it's final stage whichever you prefer. I apologize for not clarifying that.

And in your link. The 'final' Susanoo does not resemble any of its earlier stages in all its users.

Itachi was certainly not using his final Susanoo when performing yasaka magatama.

So your ground for saying that Madara's was complete/fully formed is wrong/false.

Even on the very same page, there is no mention of Madara's complete or even final Susanoo.

Madara has yet to use his final Susanoo, its complete form.

Is this not sensible to think?

1. I'm deeply grieved that a troll thought of me as sensible. I tried explaining but I guess words and facts aren't enough. Did you even read the caption of Itachi's Susanoo pictures?

2. Itachi was using the complete, final or whatever word similar to the previous words version of Susanoo already. Again, please read the caption.

3. It is not false because only complete Susanoo can use Yasaka Magatama. The wiki already clarified that.

4. No. It's not sensible because I'm already feeding the facts in your mouth but you're still rejecting it.

I'm sorry but I really think you're a troll.
 
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Fail. That's already Itachi's complete Susanoo without an armor. Please refer to the link I posted above this post. At the most lowest part of the page of the said link.

Do you get what i mean when i say complete susanoo? I mean the susanoo with armor. God some people on here are clueless and have no idea what they're talking about.
 
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Do you get what i mean when i say complete susanoo? I mean the susanoo with armor. God some people on here are clueless and have no idea what they're talking about.

It's already the complete Susanoo dude. With or without armor, It's complete. I don't want to explain things over and over again. If that's your opinion then fine. It's yours not mine. Even in the face of the facts, you're still in denial.
 

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*ahheem*

Let's look at the Title of your thread: Complete Susanoo

Let's look at your Introduction: Madara's Susanoo is still incomplete

Let's look at when Magatama can be used: When Susanoo is in it's final version

Let's know Itachi's complete Susanoo without a mask:
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Still doubting? Go to the

Yes, I know the Wiki was wrong with Tobi and Madara, but the fact still remains that Magatama can only be used in Susanoo's final form.

Let's look at the dictionary meaning of complete, shall we?

com·plete   [kuhm-pleet] Show IPA adjective, verb, -plet·ed, -plet·ing.
adjective
1.
having all parts or elements; lacking nothing; whole; entire; full: a complete set of Mark Twain's writings.
2.
finished; ended; concluded: a complete orbit.
3.
having all the required or customary characteristics, skills, or the like; consummate; perfect in kind or quality: a complete scholar.

Finshed, end

Itachi's Susanoo was not finished, that was not its end version. There is another stage to it. It wasn't complete

So your ground for proving me wrong is false. You haven't proved me wrong.


Don't extrapolate my words, or claim things I haven't said.

My reasoning for Madara's Susanoo being incomplete is. Firstly it doesn't resemble any of the other final Susanoo states

Does Madara's Susanoo look like this:
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I think that's a resounding no. Of all the stages of Madara's Susanoo we've seen it has not resembled those in the slightest, thereby we can infer that the one Raikage broke was not complete. It was not its end product
 

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It's already the complete Susanoo dude. With or without armor, It's complete. I don't want to explain things over and over again. If that's your opinion then fine. It's yours not mine. Even in the face of the facts, you're still in denial.

I'm not denying anything because I already know what the complete form is, but all I was trying to say is that it's not the final form(meaning there's no armor). There are 4 stages to susanoo. Version 1: The ribcage, Version 2: The skeletal form, Version 3: The complete form, and Version 4: The final form(meaning it has armor).
 
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Let's look at the dictionary meaning of complete, shall we?



Finshed, end

Itachi's Susanoo was not finished, that was not its end version. There is another stage to it. It wasn't complete

So your ground for proving me wrong is false. You haven't proved me wrong.


Don't extrapolate my words, or claim things I haven't said.

My reasoning for Madara's Susanoo being incomplete is. Firstly it doesn't resemble any of the other final Susanoo states

Does Madara's Susanoo look like this:
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I think that's a resounding no. Of all the stages of Madara's Susanoo we've seen it has not resembled those in the slightest, thereby we can infer that the one Raikage broke was not complete. It was not its end product

*Sigh* I guess facts and reason won't be enough. I give up. I can't explain logic to trolls.
 

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I don't get what this means.

Are you asking why Madara's Susanoo has four arms? Well, that's probably due to a user's Susanoo forming differently. E.g. Sasuke has a bow+arrow whilst none of others do. And Itachi has spirit weapons, whilst the others don't. That would explain the 4 arms, which is the only stark difference in their Susanoo

Facial characteristics are unimportant, and the colour is trivial too, for those are also probably unique manifestations.

What is important is the outer appearance of the torso or body. Most Susanoo have a sort of amour and appear thick. Their ribcages are also invisible and they skin or limbs and almost sort of a cap over their heads.

Look at this for example, and where it say "final Susanoo" for each user, Madara's was clearly not at that stage. And when I say complete, I mean in it's last form or final form.

dude, more often than not, stating opinions as facts gives a bad result.
and that's pretty much how you've started this thread... by stating what you believe is right (your opinion) as being the only truth.

the Itachi/Sasuke Susano'os kinda looks like legendary warriors. while Madara Susano'o kinda looks more like a mystical beast (or whateva).
But... we can assume they pass through same stages. like v1 all bones, v2 skined and v3 armored.
the problem is that, Madara Susano'o does not fit Itachi/Sasuke version stages at all. you can see ribs, BUT.... everything else skinned. which points to the fact that, they are simply different.

I see no reason to why Madara would not use his final Susano'o from the start. I mean, he started going all out... casting giant meteors, forests and shet, but not his final Susano'o!?!? wtf
BUT... it wouldnt also surprise me AT ALL, if next chapter he suddenly pulls out of his arse another version for his Susano'o.

bottom line... no1 at this point can tell for sure if what we seen so far is his final version or not. all we can do is assume.
 

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Bookmark this thread, please.

Some people, especially haters, no matter how much they're proven wrong still seem to think that the Susanoo Madara was using, when the Raikage broke through was complete.

It WAS NOT Complete.

Come, the next few weeks/chapters, when the full or complete Susanoo is shown...

I'm going to laugh at you.
And forever consider you an idiot.

Mark my words. And if you feel the same way, post so I know that you are one of the sensible ones, and you'll get to laugh at others with me.

I agree with you Susanoo wasn't complete
 

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*Sigh* I guess facts and reason won't be enough. I give up. I can't explain logic to trolls.

4th Hokage of the Leaf, I don't understand. Am I wrong? Am I being unreasonable? Was I not clear? Did I not explain thoroughly?

Is he just too stubborn to admit that he's been proven wrong?

What do you think?
 

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4th Hokage of the Leaf, I don't understand. Am I wrong? Am I being unreasonable? Was I not clear? Did I not explain thoroughly?

Is he just too stubborn to admit that he's been proven wrong?

What do you think?

It seems like he just likes to argue for the sake of arguing.
 

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It does look like an incomplete Sasuno'o, but only time will tell us.

I hope people do realize when they spoke of this 'invincible Sasuno'o' they were speaking of Itachi's? I have yet to see anyone fight off Itachi's Sasuno'o, so what ever happens to Sasuke or Madara what difference does it make (Itachi's Sasuno'o is still better mainly due to his spiritual items), as it was stated Itachi was invincible in his, while the others were ultimate defence.

Every tech. has it's weakness I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Sasuno'o isn't impossible to beat, but it's a great defence after all and by far the best I've seen in the manga thus far.

Anyways I'm pretty sure we will see Sasuno'o weakness soon enough and since Itachi is still a live maybe find out his weakness also (possible).
 

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It does look like an incomplete Sasuno'o, but only time will tell us.

I hope people do realize when they spoke of this 'invincible Sasuno'o' they were speaking of Itachi's? I have yet to see anyone fight off Itachi's Sasuno'o, so what ever happens to Sasuke or Madara what difference does it make (Itachi's Sasuno'o is still better mainly due to his spiritual items), as it was stated Itachi was invincible in his, while the others were ultimate defence.

Every tech. has it's weakness I'm pretty sure everyone knows that Sasuno'o isn't impossible to beat, but it's a great defence after all and by far the best I've seen in the manga thus far.

Anyways I'm pretty sure we will see Sasuno'o weakness soon enough and since Itachi is still a live maybe find out his weakness also (possible).

I agree with everything you've said.
 

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*Sigh* I guess facts and reason won't be enough. I give up. I can't explain logic to trolls.

To be honest, at this point I really don't care. I will say this though, Naruto Wiki is not official data. It's just fan base data that can be edited by anyone. Unless the manga or kishi him self says so then most stuff from there is void if not taken from the actual text from the manga OR kishi himself. The manga already states what a complete version looks like. Madara's version does not look complete.
 

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well to me it doesnt matter if it was complete or not (shruggs) ..to think a former jutsu like Susano'o will have any DECIDING factor in the fight ahead is unlikely...if he completes it (if its not complete) they will obviously get past it being that Susano'o cant be the end all be all lol ..Susano'o is a MS/EMS tech right? has nothing to do with the "true power of that God" as Kabuto stated

BUT just to get on some of you guys nerves lol...TO ME (just my opinion) there are two live Uchia of the present day with MS and i dont believe Kishi would make the old generation top the new, it hasnt happened yet and he even is showing the next generation past naruto being faster/stronger (konahamaru) ...so if i had to pick a side id go with complete although you make a VERY good argument through the pictures

for Uchia fanboys, dont fret :) ...Madara gonna show what a rinne really does and youll forget your beloved Susano'o lol
 

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I used to think uchiha macho was possibly the dumbest person here, but that title now goes to dark lord after reading what he has said.

I couldnt even be bothered to quote him and tear up his pathetic arguments. Anyway we have to wait 2 weeks or more to see madara's final susanoo.
 
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