Darui and Kakashi vs. Sasori AND KAKUZU (full form both)

[Veys]

Darui and Kakashi would pawn them!

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

y dnt jux sasori and kakuzu fans admit that kakashi and darui have upper hand!
AND SASORI'S IRON IS NT LYK GAARA'S!!!
U guYZ are jux givin lame statements, even DENYING KISHI!! SO PLZ!!

 

[Owarij]

wewt wewt sasori and kakuzu winning in polls... as it should be..

 

[ninja nik]

sasori n kakuzu but it wuld be a hard fought battle

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

That's not his specialty... why didnt he finish itachi or kisame fast? why didnt he finish deidara that fast? that's not his specialty... kakuzu just did not know he was there, and he hid his prescence and raikiri'd him... don't act like kakashi has some amazing speed like A etc....he has .5 speed above sasori...


Do you really think that he has always the same plan for each ninja?he's one of most versatile ninja,he adapte plans according different situations ,don't try to rush kishi's work when you ask me why he didn't finish itachi and or kisame . he was near to do it to deidara according the the situation.


you abuse about speed ... kakashi's speed and sharingan are enough to deal with sasori .why do you think that nagato and tobi said it that kakshi is fast and move well? they lied?
stop comparing sasori's pupets speed with sasunoo's arrow or amaterasu that's ridiculous.

still sasori can't use his puppets in kirigakure jutsu,can't see kakashi underground,can't rekognize if he's a clone and doesn't have itachi's and pein's reflex that's clear facts.

hey ur right, but ive been tryinna convince them in prev 20 pages...but its of no use, its like teaching a donkey.....

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

That's not his specialty... why didnt he finish itachi or kisame fast? why didnt he finish deidara that fast? that's not his specialty... kakuzu just did not know he was there, and he hid his prescence and raikiri'd him... don't act like kakashi has some amazing speed like A etc....he has .5 speed above sasori...


Do you really think that he has always the same plan for each ninja?he's one of most versatile ninja,he adapte plans according different situations ,don't try to rush kishi's work when you ask me why he didn't finish itachi and or kisame . he was near to do it to deidara according the the situation.


you abuse about speed ... kakashi's speed and sharingan are enough to deal with sasori .why do you think that nagato and tobi said it that kakshi is fast and move well? they lied?
stop comparing sasori's pupets speed with sasunoo's arrow or amaterasu that's ridiculous.

still sasori can't use his puppets in kirigakure jutsu,can't see kakashi underground,can't rekognize if he's a clone and doesn't have itachi's and pein's reflex that's clear facts.

hey ur right, but ive been tryinna convince them in prev 20 pages...but its of no use, its like teaching a donkey.....

 

[Owarij]

hey ur right, but ive been tryinna convince them in prev 20 pages...but its of no use, its like teaching a donkey.....

The only donkey here is you sir a rather ignorant one at that

 

[Nocturne]

wow its gettin hot in here...xd

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

The only donkey here is you sir a rather ignorant one at that

you jux wait for the midnight to start the discussion so u alone can give statements.......even the onez supporting sasori and kakuzu are against ur points haahahahhahahaha pUNK!!!!!!!!
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Owarji you aren't a noob you know your Naruto History you are correct most of the time but your an ASS, you play on people's words and twist them around and Highlight minor errors in
others sentence to try and be little their points with minor flaws.....It sucks that you do this but O well

And No ninja besides the 2nd Hokage has created a water jutsus from thin air..Other Shinobi have used their own bodies as thier supply that's why they are spewing water out their mouths you don't need external water for those kinda jutsus....Kisame oddly has spwed up pond/lake size jutsus which is strange but No Water dragon or Shark jutsus has been used without a external water source......Also Owarji because 2 characters have the same stats means nothing...Oro Genjutsus 5 Itachi Genjutsus 5. Itachi's regular genjutsus own Oro.....Kakashi can open a gate he's physicaly faster than Sasori who's not a physical combatant..Sasori is just more skilled so wouldn't be caught off guard

What point are you guys really arguing over though? Kakashi and Darui can't beat Sasori and Kakuzu. Them as a team could manage to kill Sasori at best not Kakuzu he has too many lives, they could take out 3 in full condition but they lack luster to the akatsuki duo....

HAHAHAHHAHA Owarij...its enugh for today

 

[itachi49]

Enough of the insults and bashing and flaming towards me simply because I speak the truth rather than complete nonsense. you know what, if you dont want to hear a long rant ill give you a brief right to the point arguement to debunk every myth that you are presenting and if you even doubt one word from this arguement then dont even bother responding with kakashi fanboyism garbage, im sick of the kakashi fanboyism, and im sick of kakashi fanboys even more. The 1st thing i want to address is how you say that sasori is weak because kankuro claimed that he surpassed him. first of all, kankuro surpassed sasori when sasori HAD NO PUPPETS, A PUPPET MASTER WITHOUT PUPPETS IS LIKE A NINJA WITHOUT CHAKRA. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE:flaw::flaw: And get this: those puppets were SASORI'S PUPPETS!! Oh here's the real irony: the puppet that kankuro claimed to have surpassed sasori with is sasori's BODY!! if sasori were to fight kankuro, kankuro wouldnt even have the human puppet. its like saying that sasuke surpassed itachi when sasuke has itachi's eyes. srsly, is this even a subject to argue over? and second, whether kankuro surpassed sasori or not, you are the last person in the universe to be shouting sasori got surpassed by kankuro. why? because kakashi has been getting surpassed by his students faster than FTG. THE WHOLE PREMISE OF NARUTO IS THE WILL OF FIRE, EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE SURPASSED EVENTUALY. So who's really contradicting the manga? kakashi himself has admitted that naruto surpassed him, and that was before naruto even had sage mode:flaw::flaw::flaw: sasuke surpassed kakashi in his 1st debut in shippuden and sasuke's his student, so who's really in the position to be embarrassed? and kankuro actually surpassed or will surpass kakashi, if naruto did then so will kankuro. is that good enough for you?


You really underestimate chiyo, just because she's old that doesn't mean she's weak. she's a kage level ninja and was confident that she can kill kakashi, she conquered a castle by herself and is a legendary puppet master. you overlook very important details and spend more time ranting li8ke a stray dog than actually make good points. another point you overlook is this: sasori's ultimate weapon, and i mean, his weapon of fame, his deadly poison, was so useless in that fight that as if being outnumbered wasnt a big enough handicap, he was literally disabled in that fight and was fighting without arms from how big his handicap was. but despite all that sasori almost killed chiyo but he chose to die on purpose. now, i have one question that i want you to answer. okay we know that sasori lost the fight, we know who beat him, but what does that prove?? tell me, what does losing to 2 woman prove when he had the worst possible circumstances ever alive and yet he still manhandled them and died on purpose? nothing, it proves absolutely nothing at all. sasuke beat itachi, but what does that prove? you aren't looking at the big picture here, you're just nitpicking on unimportant details to underrate a legendary ninja. if sasuke's victory against itachi was a result of circumstance then the fight proves nothing. same for this fight, sasori was a victim of circumstance to the point where everything he had to use as a weapon was already countered right away by those 2. havent you heard of the saying achillies heel? every ninja has that and sakura and chiyo happened to have been sasori's achillies heel.

the argument that kakashi was going to use kamui is very invalid for this obvious reason: kakashi was about to die way long ago in the fight when kakuzu was about to rip his heart out but he got saved by hidan accidentaly. thats called plot no jutsu for hidan coincidentally killing kakuzu's heart 1 second before kakashi was going to die and thats called outside interference. if kakashi were to have a one on one fight against kakuzu he wouldnt have that kind of lucky assistance so he'd get killed like the way he was supposed to.

itachi never owned orochimaru in his prime. number one, orochimaru wasnt in his prime because he didnt have his forbidden jutsu arsenal and orochimaru wasnt INTENDING TO KILL ITACHI NOR HARM HIM. It wasnt a fight to begin with. haven't you heard of the words BODY TRANSFER? Thats not the same as kakashis fight with itachi when kakashi is bloodlusted and fighting to kill. and how am i underrating kakashi? its you who's underrating the great legendary orochimaru, who fought a 4 tailed kyubi in a dying state, who would have killed sasuke on his deathbed but chose not to. orochimaru is not going to get pwned by jiraiya, its actually the opposite orochimaru already pwned jiraiya twice, once 16 yrs ago and the second time when tsunade fought orochimaru. jiraiya=orochimaru, theyre equals u noob. orochimaru when he fought the kyubi was able to tank his TBB and was able to stab naruto and push him back a mile, and would have killed naruto had it not been for the chakra cloak. ill ask you this, if kakashi>sick oro then imagine if he were in naruto's place during the fight. how would he counter 10,000 snakes the way naruto did by smashing the ground? how would he counter hydra technique? summoning technique? kusangi blade, when 4 tailed naruto was speed blitzed by it? oh wait, he wouldnt. kakashi already punked out infront of oro so i doubt he wouldnt again. did you see the look on kakashis face when he stood before oro? is this the brave look of a kage??

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OMG again full of crap lol seriousely man get out of your fan fantaisie ,i didn't read all your crap ,you change my words ,tell me where did i said that "sasori is weak"? kankoro said it himself that he surpassed him with the black secret technique now deal with kishi not with me and no that's just prove that sasori without puppet is nothing .

what the big deal to talk about naruto and sasuke? we all know that they surpassed kakashi ,they are his student that's normal ,you are a pathetic fanboy you don't even agree with kishi's word when kankoro surpassed sasori :flaw::flaw::flaw:.
what fanboyism? i gave you things from manga with pics and pages that prove you wrong ,while you bring me your bullshit from yor imagination and from the manga begining at chuunin exam .you're so blocked that you go search some stuff from naruto in firsts chapters when prime oro was faced the jounin kakashi .low ... :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:.
rofl you dare to talk about an hadicap from sasori who has 100 puppets? this guys had 100 puppets ,poison and iron sand and still get in hard situations so please spare me fantaisie :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:

that's prove that you're so intouchable god sasori would pass a hard time vs kakashi with sharingan who is from far faster ,smarter ,more versatile and more accurate that chiyo and sakura .
sasori can't do anything if kakashi use kirigakure jutsu or the doton to go under ground .

talk with proof and bring me some pages to show that sasori would beat kakashi otherwize don't talk.kakashi has all the jutsus to fin a solution and to counter sasori.

i continu to read again a bullshit there , you said that kakuzu was going to kill kakashi but he saved by acciden by hidan.what accident? re read the manga you will see that it was their plan ,when kakashi did raikiri kakuzu's heart he took some blood and gave it to shika ,then he got caught but the plan worked well at time now you ignorant look what kakashi said after he didn't have to use kamui this time .

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and whatever orochimaru prime would it change anything if he try again?the result would be the same .itachi pwned him several time ,his last time was in sasuke vs itachi . while itachi was going to die and was sick his speed enough fast to got him totsuka...kakashi did better than oro vs itachi don't you agree?

hahahaha the best one ... jiraiya would destroy orochimaru lol .
he can't deal with itachi and you think that he can fight jiraiya?
go read back how jiraiya was feared by itachi and how itachi played with oro.jiraiya wanted save oro you noob.
oro would not even be able to do what jiraiya do against pein paths.
just tendou would destroy him.

many possibility to counter these jutsu ,you know kakashi has 1000 jutsu ...he could cut these snakes with zabuza sword or with raikiri , simple trap with his doton , use kirigakure jutsu ,
how a sick oro would counter kamui?he has no idea waht is it and only tobi and maybe sasuke with sussanoo seems to not be affected .whatever you gone far affay of this thread subject ,and you was not abble to prove that sasori and kakuzu would win against kakashi and darui.you ruined the thread .

 

[Oronagato]

OMG again full of crap lol seriousely man get out of your fan fantaisie ,i didn't read all your crap ,you change my words ,tell me where did i said that "sasori is weak"? kankoro said it himself that he surpassed him with the black secret technique now deal with kishi not with me and no that's just prove that sasori without puppet is nothing .

what the big deal to talk about naruto and sasuke? we all know that they surpassed kakashi ,they are his student that's normal ,you are a pathetic fanboy you don't even agree with kishi's word when kankoro surpassed sasori :flaw::flaw::flaw:.
what fanboyism? i gave you things from manga with pics and pages that prove you wrong ,while you bring me your bullshit from yor imagination and from the manga begining at chuunin exam .you're so blocked that you go search some stuff from naruto in firsts chapters when prime oro was faced the jounin kakashi .low ... :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:.
rofl you dare to talk about an hadicap from sasori who has 100 puppets? this guys had 100 puppets ,poison and iron sand and still get in hard situations so please spare me fantaisie :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:

that's prove that you're so intouchable god sasori would pass a hard time vs kakashi with sharingan who is from far faster ,smarter ,more versatile and more accurate that chiyo and sakura .
sasori can't do anything if kakashi use kirigakure jutsu or the doton to go under ground .

talk with proof and bring me some pages to show that sasori would beat kakashi otherwize don't talk.kakashi has all the jutsus to fin a solution and to counter sasori.

i continu to read again a bullshit there , you said that kakuzu was going to kill kakashi but he saved by acciden by hidan.what accident? re read the manga you will see that it was their plan ,when kakashi did raikiri kakuzu's heart he took some blood and gave it to shika ,then he got caught but the plan worked well at time now you ignorant look what kakashi said after he didn't have to use kamui this time .

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and whatever orochimaru prime would it change anything if he try again?the result would be the same .itachi pwned him several time ,his last time was in sasuke vs itachi . while itachi was going to die and was sick his speed enough fast to got him totsuka...kakashi did better than oro vs itachi don't you agree?

hahahaha the best one ... jiraiya would destroy orochimaru lol .
he can't deal with itachi and you think that he can fight jiraiya?
go read back how jiraiya was feared by itachi and how itachi played with oro.jiraiya wanted save oro you noob.
oro would not even be able to do what jiraiya do against pein paths.
just tendou would destroy him.

many possibility to counter these jutsu ,you know kakashi has 1000 jutsu ...he could cut these snakes with zabuza sword or with raikiri , simple trap with his doton , use kirigakure jutsu ,
how a sick oro would counter kamui?he has no idea waht is it and only tobi and maybe sasuke with sussanoo seems to not be affected .whatever you gone far affay of this thread subject ,and you was not abble to prove that sasori and kakuzu would win against kakashi and darui.you ruined the thread .

OMG WHAT A RETARD YOU ARE!!!! YOU ARE POSSIBLY THE MOST MENTALLY INSANME PERSON ON THIS FORUM, STHU YOU NOOB AND GO DWELL YOUR IGNORANCE. How the hell do you even have the nerve to respond to my arguements. EVERY ARGUMENT THAT I MADE WAS PURE FACTS, NO OPINIONS, NO DUMB INSULTS, ALL GREAT FACTS YET YOU STILL DENY THESE FACTS. IM NOT SPEAKLING ON MY OPINION LIKE YOU YOU IDIOT, IM SIMPLY GIVING FACTS POLITELY HERE WHILE YOU BEING THE IDIOT HERE DECIDES TO SHOUT GARBAGE LIKE A DOG AND DONT EVEN RESPOND PROPERLY TO EVEN ONE ARGUEMENT I MADE. YOU KNOW WHAT IM NOT GOING TO EVEN BOTHER ARGUING WITH SOMEONE AS STUPID MENTALLY INSANE AND LOST AS YOU. ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO ARGUE ILL RECONSIDER, BUT FOR NOW GO CHECK URESELF IN REHAB AND DONT BOTHER EVEN RESPONDING TO ME WITH LOAD OF GARBAGE WHICH DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE. EVERY ARGUEMENT I MADEWAS FROM THE MANGA AND MADE PERFECT SENSE. U DIDNT EVEN READ MY ARGUEWMENTS WHICH IS WHY ALL THE GARBAGE THAT YOUR POSTING WAS ALREADY RESPONDED TO PROPERLY IN MY ARGUMENT YET YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE IT YOU IDIOT. NUFF SAID

 

[itachi49]

OMG WHAT A RETARD YOU ARE!!!! YOU ARE POSSIBLY THE MOST MENTALLY INSANME PERSON ON THIS FORUM, STHU YOU NOOB AND GO DWELL YOUR IGNORANCE. How the hell do you even have the nerve to respond to my arguements. EVERY ARGUMENT THAT I MADE WAS PURE FACTS, NO OPINIONS, NO DUMB INSULTS, ALL GREAT FACTS YET YOU STILL DENY THESE FACTS. IM NOT SPEAKLING ON MY OPINION LIKE YOU YOU IDIOT, IM SIMPLY GIVING FACTS POLITELY HERE WHILE YOU BEING THE IDIOT HERE DECIDES TO SHOUT GARBAGE LIKE A DOG AND DONT EVEN RESPOND PROPERLY TO EVEN ONE ARGUEMENT I MADE. YOU KNOW WHAT IM NOT GOING TO EVEN BOTHER ARGUING WITH SOMEONE AS STUPID MENTALLY INSANE AND LOST AS YOU. ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO ARGUE ILL RECONSIDER, BUT FOR NOW GO CHECK URESELF IN REHAB AND DONT BOTHER EVEN RESPONDING TO ME WITH LOAD OF GARBAGE WHICH DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE. EVERY ARGUEMENT I MADEWAS FROM THE MANGA AND MADE PERFECT SENSE. U DIDNT EVEN READ MY ARGUEWMENTS WHICH IS WHY ALL THE GARBAGE THAT YOUR POSTING WAS ALREADY RESPONDED TO PROPERLY IN MY ARGUMENT YET YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE IT YOU IDIOT. NUFF SAID

i'll ignore these insults and bullshits :shrug:
loosers always complain cry more .

 

[scrmz]

OMG WHAT A RETARD YOU ARE!!!! YOU ARE POSSIBLY THE MOST MENTALLY INSANME PERSON ON THIS FORUM, STHU YOU NOOB AND GO DWELL YOUR IGNORANCE. How the hell do you even have the nerve to respond to my arguements. EVERY ARGUMENT THAT I MADE WAS PURE FACTS, NO OPINIONS, NO DUMB INSULTS, ALL GREAT FACTS YET YOU STILL DENY THESE FACTS. IM NOT SPEAKLING ON MY OPINION LIKE YOU YOU IDIOT, IM SIMPLY GIVING FACTS POLITELY HERE WHILE YOU BEING THE IDIOT HERE DECIDES TO SHOUT GARBAGE LIKE A DOG AND DONT EVEN RESPOND PROPERLY TO EVEN ONE ARGUEMENT I MADE. YOU KNOW WHAT IM NOT GOING TO EVEN BOTHER ARGUING WITH SOMEONE AS STUPID MENTALLY INSANE AND LOST AS YOU. ONCE YOU LEARN HOW TO ARGUE ILL RECONSIDER, BUT FOR NOW GO CHECK URESELF IN REHAB AND DONT BOTHER EVEN RESPONDING TO ME WITH LOAD OF GARBAGE WHICH DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE. EVERY ARGUEMENT I MADEWAS FROM THE MANGA AND MADE PERFECT SENSE. U DIDNT EVEN READ MY ARGUEWMENTS WHICH IS WHY ALL THE GARBAGE THAT YOUR POSTING WAS ALREADY RESPONDED TO PROPERLY IN MY ARGUMENT YET YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE IT YOU IDIOT. NUFF SAID

you are the only idiot there

IM SIMPLY GIVING FACTS POLITELY HERE WHILE YOU BEING THE IDIOT HERE DECIDES TO SHOUT GARBAGE LIKE A DOG AND DONT EVEN RESPOND PROPERLY

i verified your post where you started to insult while this thread was going quiet and fun , you are the first one who was not polite hypocryt :flaw:

are kakashi fanboys normally this retarded or are you the dumbest of the pack. either way spare us your long answer and listen carefully to all your botches in this mediocre arguement, so hideous i cant even dare describe the level of stupidity in this arguement, but sadly i have to make this brief. number 1, a sick oro fought a 4 tailed kyubi naruto, while in a dying state, and he fought sasuke and the only reason he lost is because he wasn't intending to kill sasuke (NOTE: WHEN SASUKE BECAME PARALYZED HE WAS ABOUT TO KILL SASUKE BUT REFUSED IN ORDER TO CAPTURE SASUKES BODY). Are u really joking when u believe that kakashi can even dare face a sick oro. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:!!!!!!

HE NEVER KILLED KAKUZU TWICE U MORON. The 1st time when he took out kakuzus heart it was a surprise attack and that required shikamarus help, and second time KAKUZU WAS ALREEADY DEAD, KAKASHI JUST CHERRY PICKED AND ACTED ALL TOUGH BY KILLING KAKUZU WHEN HE WAS LYING ON THE FLOOR FROM NARUTOS ATTACK, WTH IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAIN!!!!

He fought the most powerful ninjas? he got owned by the most powerful ninjas u mean. he got curbstopmed by itachi once, and the second time itachi, who has even less chakra than the third hokage, was fighting at 1/3 chakra and still put up a decent fight against kakashi and naruto, so it was 2 against one, and note, itachi was loyal to the leaf so every encounter with a leaf shinobi, he held back, so what does that prove?? saving team shika is a GARBAGE feat compared to the feats of the great kages and almighty akatsuki. the 4th saved an entire village with only a few casualties from a tailed beast, and he saved his son at the same time, yet you compare that to saving a tiny squad of ppl??

KANKURO NEVER SURPASSED SASORI!! Sasori

1. didnt have ANY OF HIS PUPPETS, its like fighting a crippled nagato without his six bodies and calling nagato weak, so what are you blabbering about.
2. sasori was talk no jutsud
3. kabuto wasnt controlling sasori properly


Are you biased enough to actually believe that sasori<<<<<<chiyo and sakura.

1. sasori's ultimate weapon was useless due to sakuras 3 antidotes
2. it was 2 on one
3. chiyo and sakura would do even better against kakashi
4. if chakra doesnt matter like you claim then how does gender matter you sexist?



Tendou destroyed the village and was about to kill naruto and tsunade? true tendo is a beast, but tendo had the power of all six paths when he destroyed the village, but when tendo fought kakashi he had only 1/6 of the six paths, so your arguement is useless. anymore arguements for me to rebuttle

 

[sharingan67]

kakashi and darui win this

 

[LolaxXx]

Stop comparing Kakuzu's fight with with the fight against team 10. This is Kakuzu AND Sasori VS Kakashi and Darui, Kakashi wouldnt have the same openings that he had before. AGAIN, Kakuzu and Sasori can just easily stay far away and fly around and spam long range attacks.

 

[LielieS]

Kakashi ad Darui

 

[Araag]

I'm gonna be completely honest here: I registered right here JUST to comment on this battle thread. I am going to look at this as realistically as possible and not try to flame others. I'm also going to largely avoid repeating points other people have already made unless I feel the points are incomplete. If you want me to elaborate, kindly ask and I will be happy to oblige.

First off, my general rule is that virtually any top-tier (kage level) shinobi can beat any other top-tier shinobi in a given situation.

First off, are we assuming that all four of these people know each other's abilities or if they only know each other by reputation. If it's by reputation then Sasori and Kakuzu have a significant advantage. Team Kakashi would know virtually nothing about Kakuzu and the only thing they would know about Sasori is that he was a master puppeteer. On the other hand, Kakashi's reputation and abilities seem to be fairly well-known by the members of Akatsuki. (With the exception of his mangekyou) I doubt they would know much about Darui since he was from the Cloud Village which had no Akatuski reps.

If they do know each others abilities then Team Kakashi has the advantage since they know how to target Sasori and won't be taken by surprise from Kakuzu's multiple hearts.

When looking at this from an abilities standpoint I have to give the advantage to Team Akatsuki. They have an outrageous numbers advantage (puppets and masks) as well as near immortality if you don't know how to target them. Also, Kakuzu and Sasori both have at least limited flight capabilities which is a HUGE tactical advantage. There is also a great deal of talk about the use of Kakashi's Kamui. If the two teams no only each other's reputations then Kakashi wouldn't know to target Sasori's core. If they did know about each others abilities then Sasori SHOULD be able to dodge Kamui by switching his core to a different puppet. The core shift is said to happen in a split second in the naruto wiki (so fast that Chiyo didn't notice). And Sasori would be able to make use of that very well as soon as he sees Kakashi's mangekyou. Also, the poison in Sasori's weapons are saturated into the metal, so water jutsus wouldn't wash it out.

Lastly, I'm going to look at intelligence and experience. Kakashi, Sasori, and Kakuzu and have a stat of 5 of intelligence in the databooks, and I have to assume the Darui is probably a 5 also. Therefore, they really are all tactical geniuses. However, Team Akatsuki has much more experience mostly due to Kakuzu. Also, Darui and Kakashi have pretty much never seen each other fight and I have to assume that Sasori and Kakuzu are at least aware of each other's abilites. So they also get an edge there.

After taking all of that into consideration, I would give a large edge for Team Akatsuki to win if the teams' knowledge of each other was based purely on reputation. If they know each other's abilites it depends largely on whether or not Sasori's core shift is fast enough to avoid Kamui. But with the huge numerical advantage the Akatsuki has, I still have to give them the advantage to win.

Again, all fights in Naruto are based off of the situation the fight is in. Kakashi and Darui would be capable of winning in a particular situation.

 

[Owarij]

I'm gonna be completely honest here: I registered right here JUST to comment on this battle thread. I am going to look at this as realistically as possible and not try to flame others. I'm also going to largely avoid repeating points other people have already made unless I feel the points are incomplete. If you want me to elaborate, kindly ask and I will be happy to oblige.

First off, my general rule is that virtually any top-tier (kage level) shinobi can beat any other top-tier shinobi in a given situation.

First off, are we assuming that all four of these people know each other's abilities or if they only know each other by reputation. If it's by reputation then Sasori and Kakuzu have a significant advantage. Team Kakashi would know virtually nothing about Kakuzu and the only thing they would know about Sasori is that he was a master puppeteer. On the other hand, Kakashi's reputation and abilities seem to be fairly well-known by the members of Akatsuki. (With the exception of his mangekyou) I doubt they would know much about Darui since he was from the Cloud Village which had no Akatuski reps.

If they do know each others abilities then Team Kakashi has the advantage since they know how to target Sasori and won't be taken by surprise from Kakuzu's multiple hearts.

When looking at this from an abilities standpoint I have to give the advantage to Team Akatsuki. They have an outrageous numbers advantage (puppets and masks) as well as near immortality if you don't know how to target them. Also, Kakuzu and Sasori both have at least limited flight capabilities which is a HUGE tactical advantage. There is also a great deal of talk about the use of Kakashi's Kamui. If the two teams no only each other's reputations then Kakashi wouldn't know to target Sasori's core. If they did know about each others abilities then Sasori SHOULD be able to dodge Kamui by switching his core to a different puppet. The core shift is said to happen in a split second in the naruto wiki (so fast that Chiyo didn't notice). And Sasori would be able to make use of that very well as soon as he sees Kakashi's mangekyou. Also, the poison in Sasori's weapons are saturated into the metal, so water jutsus wouldn't wash it out.

Lastly, I'm going to look at intelligence and experience. Kakashi, Sasori, and Kakuzu and have a stat of 5 of intelligence in the databooks, and I have to assume the Darui is probably a 5 also. Therefore, they really are all tactical geniuses. However, Team Akatsuki has much more experience mostly due to Kakuzu. Also, Darui and Kakashi have pretty much never seen each other fight and I have to assume that Sasori and Kakuzu are at least aware of each other's abilites. So they also get an edge there.

After taking all of that into consideration, I would give a large edge for Team Akatsuki to win if the teams' knowledge of each other was based purely on reputation. If they know each other's abilites it depends largely on whether or not Sasori's core shift is fast enough to avoid Kamui. But with the huge numerical advantage the Akatsuki has, I still have to give them the advantage to win.

Again, all fights in Naruto are based off of the situation the fight is in. Kakashi and Darui would be capable of winning in a particular situation.

Welcome to Nb ^^ Glad to see a new intelligent face around here, Nice analysis of the situation, I agree with you that Team akatsuki wins this

 

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Welcome to Nb ^^ Glad to see a new intelligent face around here, Nice analysis of the situation, I agree with you that Team akatsuki wins this

Thanks a lot Owarij.

I'm just trying to approach the situation as reasonably as I can. There have been a few overreactions on this thread (and others to be fair) and I prefer to keep my post as civilized and as accurate as I can.

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

I'm gonna be completely honest here: I registered right here JUST to comment on this battle thread. I am going to look at this as realistically as possible and not try to flame others. I'm also going to largely avoid repeating points other people have already made unless I feel the points are incomplete. If you want me to elaborate, kindly ask and I will be happy to oblige.

First off, my general rule is that virtually any top-tier (kage level) shinobi can beat any other top-tier shinobi in a given situation.

First off, are we assuming that all four of these people know each other's abilities or if they only know each other by reputation. If it's by reputation then Sasori and Kakuzu have a significant advantage. Team Kakashi would know virtually nothing about Kakuzu and the only thing they would know about Sasori is that he was a master puppeteer. On the other hand, Kakashi's reputation and abilities seem to be fairly well-known by the members of Akatsuki. (With the exception of his mangekyou) I doubt they would know much about Darui since he was from the Cloud Village which had no Akatuski reps.

If they do know each others abilities then Team Kakashi has the advantage since they know how to target Sasori and won't be taken by surprise from Kakuzu's multiple hearts.

When looking at this from an abilities standpoint I have to give the advantage to Team Akatsuki. They have an outrageous numbers advantage (puppets and masks) as well as near immortality if you don't know how to target them. Also, Kakuzu and Sasori both have at least limited flight capabilities which is a HUGE tactical advantage. There is also a great deal of talk about the use of Kakashi's Kamui. If the two teams no only each other's reputations then Kakashi wouldn't know to target Sasori's core. If they did know about each others abilities then Sasori SHOULD be able to dodge Kamui by switching his core to a different puppet. The core shift is said to happen in a split second in the naruto wiki (so fast that Chiyo didn't notice). And Sasori would be able to make use of that very well as soon as he sees Kakashi's mangekyou. Also, the poison in Sasori's weapons are saturated into the metal, so water jutsus wouldn't wash it out.

Lastly, I'm going to look at intelligence and experience. Kakashi, Sasori, and Kakuzu and have a stat of 5 of intelligence in the databooks, and I have to assume the Darui is probably a 5 also. Therefore, they really are all tactical geniuses. However, Team Akatsuki has much more experience mostly due to Kakuzu. Also, Darui and Kakashi have pretty much never seen each other fight and I have to assume that Sasori and Kakuzu are at least aware of each other's abilites. So they also get an edge there.

After taking all of that into consideration, I would give a large edge for Team Akatsuki to win if the teams' knowledge of each other was based purely on reputation. If they know each other's abilites it depends largely on whether or not Sasori's core shift is fast enough to avoid Kamui. But with the huge numerical advantage the Akatsuki has, I still have to give them the advantage to win.

Again, all fights in Naruto are based off of the situation the fight is in. Kakashi and Darui would be capable of winning in a particular situation.

Welcome to NB and thanx for starting ur post with my thread....i can at a point agree with you..... but what if conditions state:
1. kakuzu has his elements merged , (his 3rd form)
2. kakashi and darui know each others abilities well
3. sasori and kakuzu know each other's abilities well
4. kakashi knows about sasori and kakuzu's abilities while they kow about kakashi's a little
5. sasori and kakuzu DO NOT KNOW darui's abilities.
6. Darui has his sword.
7. theyr fighting in a ROCKY area.