Sasuke Can Beat jiraiya And Orochimaru Both
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eyesofthekyuubi44
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Your reasons for the win were so elementary that it wasn't even funny. I think he can take them ONE on ONE but not BOTH, as both have more experience and intelligence than him. You are so blind to the fact that Orochimaru was sickened that even Sasuke himself admitted that this was the reason he won against Orochimaru.
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1. A NORMAL Rasengan can be countered by Chidori. A Chou Oodama, or Gargantuan Rasengan has NOT been stated to be able to do so.
2. I agree with the Susano'o blocking a Rasengan, but Sage Mode amplifies WHATEVER jutsu you use. It is NOT a jutsu itself. Sasuke can learn Sage Mode, and his Mangekyo jutsu's would soar up in usage and power.
3. To do what? That was such a shitty reason.
4. This is the most ridiculous point so far. Sasuke cannot summon snakes. He can summon Hawks, but I doubt that Jiraiya wouldn't be able to tear through that summon. You could also say, that Jiraiya and Orochimaru, two of the three greatest summoners in the series (other one being Pain) would also be able to do the same thing. "If Jiraiya tried to crazy shit like kill Sasuke"? No shit this would be a battle to the death.
5. Okay. SOMEWHAT fair enough, but Sasuke's moves will be figured out through Jiraiya's intellect, along with Orochimaru.
After we see the EMS powers, we'll see. This goes to the Sannin though. Easily.
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2. True except we aren't comparing that fight. we are comparing the present sasuke to strongest oro has been in the series. so the fact that he could have won is irrevelant to this particular topic
1. I don't see your point. It's not true either btw even if was true that doesn't mean J-Man could just seal it away with a scroll while he is being burned to death. The reason why it took so long on A was cause of his lightning armor and the fact it was only on his arm. Look at when Itachi used it on Sasuke. Or when Sasuke used it on bee and that one Samurai.
3. No argument there
The last bit...thx for the smart ass remark. It's not saying anything like that. You realize these guys are less than 17yrs old and they are fighting on the same level as these legends right?
Chaotic Blades
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Horrible comparison. Tell me atleast 3 high ranking or highly known ninjas that either one has beaten. I can name you more than three for Sasuke
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O and Boo-hoo to the fact that Oro was sick against Sasuke. There's not too many times where fights have been on a total even playing field anyways. And btw his illness is of his own doing. Getting someone else's body to remain immortal (in a sense) and being able to regenerate on a constant basis is the cause of that. So he wouldn't have those techniques otherwise and he wouldn't be as strong. so you pick your poison. don't make excuses.
eyesofthekyuubi44
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Yes, but we are assuming that these people are both totally healthy.
In a fair fight, Sasuke would lose.
Chaotic Blades
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Deidara, Oro, Itachi, Naruto, Danzo, and Bee aren't high ranking ninjas?
Bee is the only one throw out since he had Taka helpWrong. Jiraiya fuses with Ma and Pa toad while in sage mode so they can absorb natural chakra allowing jiraiya to stay in sage mode as long as he wants. Orochimaru can send thousands of snakes to block amaterasu, shed his skin if hit by amaterasu and summon his three gates to block Kirin( either the whole attack or most of it just like 4th tail tbb.) no genjutsus would work on jiraiya because the moment he's placed in a genjutsu Ma and Pa toad would break him out of it like 8 tails did with bee against Sasuke. If Sasuke use sasunoo the jiraiya will use mud swamp river like he did on orochimaru's snakes and we all know Sasuke can't maneuver with sasunoo. Orochimaru can't be cut in half as we saw him pull himself back together, can shed his skin to recover from attacks, taught Sasuke pretty much everything he knows so knows sasuke's fighting style. Sasuke had to go curse seal level 2 just to beat a weaken orochimaru/itachi, a power orochimaru gave him and getting the MS only made up for Sasuke losing the curse seal so he didn't get stronger at all until he went evil at the kage summit but still doesn't has chakra level or either jiraiya or orochimaru ( plus jiraiya's chakra is double in sage mode so yea...). Stop underestimating them, itachi and kisame ran away from jiraiya so how the he'll is that a lose to jiraiya?! Itachi stated they would all die if they fought, itachi didn't think twice to fight orochimaru showing how strong jiraiya is. Itachi is no fool and wouldn't say that if it wasn't true, especially when kisame never trusted itachi since they met and wouldn't run from a fight like that unless he also felt the same way. Kisame respected itachi's power and thats all, kisame beat the 4 tailed beast for goodness sake so if he can beat the 4 tails single handily then why can't he beat jiraiya with itachi? Because jiraiya is a beast and pain stated himself that jiraiya only lost because he didn't figure out pain's secret earlier. Pain is stronger than anyone Sasuke fought.
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Based on what? Some peoples reasoning arent factual. For instance he fought against the 4-Tails and held his own for awhile. Do you really think the way he was fighting then he would fight that same kind of a way against Sasuke? No. Too much chakra use. J-man is highly ranked ninja for good reason yet I don't seem to recall any ninja that he has beaten. So what are you basing it on? That some of their move sets are strong and if they used it they way YOU would do then they are strong? Character is only as strong as Kishi makes it. Don't add your style to character.
Your wrong because Orochimaru could have killed Sasuke if he wanted to. Itachi would have owned him but Itachi did not want to kill sasuke. Sasuke had Orochimarus powers when he fought Deidara. And he had Tobi and Kirin with him when he fought danzo. Sasuke has not used is own strength to defeat anyone yet.Deidara, Oro, Itachi, Naruto, Danzo, and Bee aren't high ranking ninjas?
Chaotic Blades
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Stupid has u in it for a reason. You honestly believe this BS you wrote? the 1st sentence was the only Fact in there. Everything else was completely untrue.
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Tobi and Kirin were there. They're assistance was lil to none. Tobi even said he didn't need to interrupt. And sasuke knew about Danzo's powers anyways before kirin even said anything. So false statement. And all i saw in the 1st part was Orochimaru could have..Itachi would have. (ok itachi would have seriously if wasn't ill but that's the life of a ninja) You think Danzo or Team Kakashi cared that Sasuke was going blind or fatigue from fighting the Sages? It was Sasuke's move that stopped Bee from rampaging yes? It was Sasuke's strength that beat Deidara yes? I'm sorry who's strength is he using then?
JirayiaRIPforever
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um fan boy can i throw a book at you? sasuke isnt dead right now because itachi didnt kill him, he didn't have to get orochimaru out. he could have just sealed sasuke with totsuka blade and itachi did win, he had the chance to take sasuke's eyes, but he instead was a loving brother and gave him new powers. And i wanna throw a book at you for the bee comment, bee killed him twice, he blew off his chest, stabbed him multiple times and came in for a killing blow as suigetsu saved sasuke. Bee fled so he could have a vacation. by the way Tobi did save sasuke by warning him about the seal.
So to answer the thread: The Sannin would Destroy sasuke
Chaotic Blades
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Totsuka blade doesn't work on an pure blooded uchiha dumbass. and i realized itachi let him win it doesnt take away from the fact that he won. something the sannin rarely have done in the series. and you realize that they were confused on how to approach Bee as they knew he had to remain alive? Otherwise he would have used MS from the beginning. and ya Sasuke is so dumb he was just gonna let himself be sealed. Even if he didn't know what it was he was just gonna sit there.
O if you can't read don't let me be the reason why you wanna throw books.
Chaotic Blades
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The would of could of game works both ways. Itachi could have killed Sasuke. Oro would have killed Sasuke. But then again Hanzo could of killed the Sannin. Pain could have killed Naruto. You are the fanboy JirayiaRIPforever. stop being hyprotical and state FACTS. not what you want to happen
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first of all i want proof that totsuka blade doesn't work, and facts are facts. tobi stated itachi COULD have killed him, we DON'T know if hanzo couldve killed the sannin, next the whole bee thing HA go back and look, suigetsu said lets go at him with the intent to kill and no sasuke would not have used ms at the start back then, he didn't wanna rely on it, and once state facts. your hypocritical, you didn't say one fact. and i wanted itachi to lose to sasuke, i wanted to see what would happen if Naruto was defeated, don't assume you know what i wanted. And throwing a fight in 99% of peoples eyes is a loss for the won who got it thrown for them or a draw, to top that off lets see sasuke fight 3 pains, kill them, get ambushed and lose an arm and go back and fight? hmm + how do you know he wouldve used MS from the start unless your kishi which you are not, dont state things you CAN'T prove, . gimme facts or stfu
JirayiaRIPforever
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by the way dont use words you can't spell its hypocritical not hyprotical , besides i doubt you know what it means