Orochimaru would die from the 4 tail Naruto if he was directly hit with the tail beast bomb, he suffered a lot of damage even tho he summoned his tripe wall, remember orochimaru was on the ground and shedded his skin to recovery his body. It's also from his body getting weak from the need to switch bodies.
Sasuke Can Beat jiraiya And Orochimaru Both
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Rico Uchiha
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In the Shinobi world in theory everyone can beat everyone. As we have seen in the Shikamara vs Hidan fight. Hidan was way stronger than him at that time, but Shikamaru had other skills. Also Gaaraa had the ultimate defense, but Lee's speed made up for that.
Orochimaru vs Sasuke MS, probably Orochimaru coz he has sooo many jutsu/skill. He had not much of a trouble against 4tails Naruto who wounded Jiraiya badly. When he tested Sasuke against an army of ninja, he stated himself: "They called me a genius, but compared to him.... there is no comparison!" That was even before MS.
But now that Sasuke has EMS there's no way Orochimaru would win against him, nor Jiraiya, nor Tsunade. Sasuke's Susano'o is upgraded and can be used without being in pain. Also his other EMS moves are upgraded.
Naruto Sagemode beated Pain who beated J-man. Sasuke with EMS > Naruto Sagemode.
Orochimaru vs Sasuke MS, probably Orochimaru coz he has sooo many jutsu/skill. He had not much of a trouble against 4tails Naruto who wounded Jiraiya badly. When he tested Sasuke against an army of ninja, he stated himself: "They called me a genius, but compared to him.... there is no comparison!" That was even before MS.
But now that Sasuke has EMS there's no way Orochimaru would win against him, nor Jiraiya, nor Tsunade. Sasuke's Susano'o is upgraded and can be used without being in pain. Also his other EMS moves are upgraded.
Naruto Sagemode beated Pain who beated J-man. Sasuke with EMS > Naruto Sagemode.
warlordvivis
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pls just tell me your post is a joke. Jiraiya alone would kill sassuke like a baby. Are u talking about the same jiraiya itachi and kisame were too scared to face in bushin? The only reason jiraiya died so easliy was because he under rated pain.
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EternalMangekyouNaruto
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lol!!!! Sasuke is strong BUT CANT DO BOTH THESE BAD DUDES IN ONE. JUST NO WAY MAN NOT EVEN IN YOUR DREAMS AND EVEN KISHIS CUZ I ROB THAT THOUGHT AND GIVE HIM A FART NO JUTSU!!!!!
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Rafeal brown
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Ok... Let's debate... I know it'll be difficult for sasuke to beat this two sannins but you make it seem like it's impossible.
1. Firstly I know sage mode takes shit loads of time to get into, as seen when jiraya fought pain, so jiraiya would need to buy time into sage mode... So before anybody should talk about sage mode plz tell us how jiraiya will buy time into sage mode..., Summons??? Sorry sir, sasuke could control summons with a 3 tamoe sharingan
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so imagine what he'd do with the ems... No summons even have the speed feat to escape an amaterasu arrow besides they're just huge target for amaterasu so summons are pretty much useless in this fight.
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It's true oro is really difficult to kill but oro couldn't counter a 3 tamoe sharingan genjutsu when he fought itachi so how is he suppose to counter a tsukuyomi from ems sasuke???
Even jiraiya can't save him by forcing chakra into him because Tsukuyomi can't be broken unless you possess uchiha blood, but he can be killed so i see Sasuke mind raping oro to death with tsukuyomi or till his psyche dies out.
3. Edo tensei, well oro's edo tensei is the only prob sasuke will have in this match but....... Sorry to burst your bubbles, even kabuto admitted to tobi that he can be forced to undo his edo tensei with a sharingan genjutsu... So it's not a prob for sasuke.
4. Neither jiraiya nor oro has the speed feat to escape amaterasu arrows or amaterasu, but oro can pretty much shed his skin, so the question here is how would jiraiya escape the amaterasu arrow?? Lol he doesn't have an answer to it.
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Itachi Namikaze
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How are you friend with this kid. All I have ever seen him post is nonsense inspired by his hatred of Minato, Naruto, and Jiraiya.
He is one of the worst types of people on this forum, both a massive fanboy and an extreme hater who has never used proof, or even logic. His irrational hatred and fanboyism make him discount any arguments anyone will make.
I dislike him because of this and the fact that he is often rude. (I am being kind of rude now but I won't apologize because he has flamed people in this thread)
Noble Armada
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He proved nothing by killing Orochimaru. Orochimaru had no arms and was bedridden...if you're point is that Sasuke can easily kill a cripple, then yes, I agree.
In response to Jiraiya:
1. So Jiraiya wouldn't be able to use the Rasengan directly on Sasuke's chidori...Jiraiya was talented enough that he could probably land a Rasengan somewhere else.
2. How can Jiraiya's sage mode be "handled" with the Mangekyou? Jiraiya's Sage mode wasn't showcased very well, but if it's anything like Naruto's, the MS wouldn't be handling much.
3. Amaterasu is not a flawless, end-all jutsu. It takes vast amounts of chakra, is difficult to aim, and puts a grueling strain on the user. If Sasuke nailed him with it, perhaps it would end the fight, but I think Jiraiya could counter it with a powerful ninjutsu (like the fire technique he used to kill that giant chicken in Sage mode against Pain). Even if he managed to avoid it for five seconds, Sasuke would run out of steam and be a vulnerable target.
4. Manda is dead. This is not a viable option.
5. It's true that Sasuke would have this advantage, but Jiraiya is a far more experienced ninja than Sasuke. He knows all about the Sharingan and could probably figure out a way to mitigate this.
Rafeal brown
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lol... He's a sasuke fan, so he won't accept sasuke losing, i've seen lots of itachi fans who won't accept that he'd lose too so....... Don't judge him wrongly.
Chaotic Blades
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Dumb statement to throw in there. He survived the TBB but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have died from it had he took a direct hit. Same as chidori. Im sure he isn't gonna take a hit from a chidori cause he knows it is lethal. And also Jiraiya was fighting to kill. Sasuke never planned to kill Deidara. In fact, I think he only hit once just to prove a point. He just had Deidara waste all his chakra. That should actually be a testitude to his strength. And with that being said ABC logic doesn't work in Naruto. Truth is Jirayia would of had a hard time against Deidara since he has no lightning style moves and he even his sage mode can't make him fly
Chaotic Blades
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Kabuto who is physically weaker than sasuke by the databook took one to the face by tsunade. and sasuke took one to the face by A thinking he wouldn't get hit.can sasuke take a punch to the chest by tsunade?
narutonish
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Funny how every reply of Thunderbolt includes - "why do you hate sasuke"
No one hates anyone, just see the facts, sannin are lot more experienced than your boy sasuke + being decently strong. And as proven time and again, experience counts a lot in the ninja world
No one hates anyone, just see the facts, sannin are lot more experienced than your boy sasuke + being decently strong. And as proven time and again, experience counts a lot in the ninja world
Chaotic Blades
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ok I was thinking Oro and J-man on this but now I really have to say Sasuke since there isn't any type of good arguments going for them whatsoever except they are Sannin.
1) LOL at everyone who says J-man can just seal the black flames. If he was caught on fire he's not gonna be able to get a scroll out and seal it. He sealed it after the fight was over to study on it. He can't just seal it within a fight.
2) Regardless that Oro wasn't in his health, that speaks to how low his thought process is. Obviously if you transfer bodies when they one you are currently using is almost up and still expect to beat an Uchiha you overestimate yourself. And ya Sasuke didn't kill him but he loss. A loss is a loss
3) It's safe to say that at this point and time that Naruto and Jirayia had similar abilities and such. and that Naruto has surpasses Jirayia in certain aspects. So if Sasuke and Naruto are on the same level how do you expect Jirayia to win?
Sorry but next generation surpasses the previous one. The only way I see them winning is if Sasuke acts like he has been since Itachi's death, with him thinking he has unlimited chakra or something. Granted he also seems to have way too much luck on his side but that like Kabuto said before is a skillset of a ninja to have luck on your side
1) LOL at everyone who says J-man can just seal the black flames. If he was caught on fire he's not gonna be able to get a scroll out and seal it. He sealed it after the fight was over to study on it. He can't just seal it within a fight.
2) Regardless that Oro wasn't in his health, that speaks to how low his thought process is. Obviously if you transfer bodies when they one you are currently using is almost up and still expect to beat an Uchiha you overestimate yourself. And ya Sasuke didn't kill him but he loss. A loss is a loss
3) It's safe to say that at this point and time that Naruto and Jirayia had similar abilities and such. and that Naruto has surpasses Jirayia in certain aspects. So if Sasuke and Naruto are on the same level how do you expect Jirayia to win?
Sorry but next generation surpasses the previous one. The only way I see them winning is if Sasuke acts like he has been since Itachi's death, with him thinking he has unlimited chakra or something. Granted he also seems to have way too much luck on his side but that like Kabuto said before is a skillset of a ninja to have luck on your side