Itachi vs Minato

Itachi and Minato

  • Itachi

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Owarij

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If you want to be stubborn and deny facts, you can search. If you don't have any other argument, you have lost and I will take my leave for now.
Obviously you can't link me any chapter that said they sparred, as i don't recall that ever being said in the manga part 1 or 2


Why would he teach his student how to fight the Uchiha eye genjutsu when the Uchiha were an apart of his own village?
and why would he know how to fight uchiha which were a part of his own village? knowledge of the jutsu is one thing, but fighting against it is another , kakashi had all the knowledge of sharingan in the world, he uses genjutsu with it, and mastered it, and no doubt He knew that if he looked at itachi's eyes he was susceptible to a genjutsu, yet he still did, y? maybe he was confident in his ability to break genjutsu's , but because he had no knowledge of itachi's tsukyomi, he ended up loosing


gai knew it not by fighting itachi,he knew it by fighting kakashi ,this rule is valable against any sharingan user.minato was kakashi's sensei ,he know a lot about uchihas ,he even knew about tobi/madara.

can minato fight itachi without looking his left eye ?

genjutsu is ineffective against minato,b/c he was never shown to caught by onesee what i mean? this will never end b/c genjutsu & genjutsu defense was never shown w/regards to this character.
sorry if i put itachi , i meant kakashi, kakashi was minato's student *

And we aren't talking about any normal genjutsu, we're talking about tsukyomi one of the most powerful genjutsu's in existance , itachi's own that is, that would make a kage level jounin like kakashi fall down in 1 second, and go in a coma for 2 weeks, and then question y itachi didnt just kill him by adding more days to the torture.


Minato has top rate taijutsu his speed is enough to catch infant Naruto before Madara could kill him, his strength is enough to nearly sever an eight tails tentacle, his reflexes are fast enough to escape before Madara can absorb him, he could react fast enough to mark killer B's eight tails tentacle and react fast enough to use Hiraishin before A's highest speed got him, so there's no arguing his ability to avoid looking at Itachi's eyes, Raikage's lightning armor reflexes are compared to Minato. Minato's all ranges ftg can be used outside Itachi's range of genjutsu, his lightning fast reflexes will allow him see Amaterasu coming and Susanoo's opening at the feet is enough.

Yes? you're stating the things we already know about minato, yes he is quite a ninja but he isn't all powerful, I hope you recall orochimaru would have been chosen over him as hokage if orochimaru didn't have such sadistic and evil thoughts, and look what happened to poor kage/sannin orochimaru ......

Minato will look into his eyes and he will fall to tsukyomi, if he doesnt lookinto his eyes, amaterasu would be enough
 
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Obviously you can't link me any chapter that said they sparred, as i don't recall that ever being said in the manga part 1 or 2




and why would he know how to fight uchiha which were a part of his own village? knowledge of the jutsu is one thing, but fighting against it is another , kakashi had all the knowledge of sharingan in the world, he uses genjutsu with it, and mastered it, and no doubt knew that if he looked at itachi's eyes he was susceptible to a genjutsu, yet he still did
Now I know you are just being a dumb.If you know a jutsu you can find that jutsu's weakness.Minato was able to see the weakness of Kakashi's chidori the very first time he saw it.So are you trying to tell me a man who can find the weakness in a jutsu after one look at it, couldn't find a weakness in jutsus he's known about for years to decades? Not only that, If Minato is the Hokage, he's has knowledge pass down to him from previous generations.I would assume base on commonsense that along with the knowledge of how certain jutsus work, he would know their weaknesses as well.You said it yourself, Minato didn't fight the Uchihas, but the Senju did.The knowledge the Senju gather is yet another reason how Minato could know how to fight an Uchiha.Trying to compare teaching ones student how to fight against a fellow citizen and knowing how to fight against a fellow citizen is not same.And don't try to make it seem like Kakashi just instinctively or unintentionally look into Itachi's eyes.Kakashi look into Itachi's eye on purpose because he thought his sharingan could go toe to toe with another sharingan users, which is why he look into Itachi eyes.Go an reread the chapter.



Kakashi closes his right eyes, leaving his sharingan eye open.
 
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Yes? you're stating the things we already know about minato, yes he is quite a ninja but he isn't all powerful, I hope you recall orochimaru would have been chosen over him as hokage if orochimaru didn't have such sadistic and evil thoughts, and look what happened to poor kage/sannin orochimaru ......

Minato will look into his eyes and he will fall to tsukyomi, if he doesnt lookinto his eyes, amaterasu would be enough
Orochimaru would have been chosen base on him being a sannin,having more experience, and being the Third Hokage's Student.None of those things means he's more powerful than Minato.It simply means he's older and is in head of the line in succession.Minato looking into his eyes are getting hit by amaterasu is just your assumption which you can't prove or even make a reasonable case for.
 

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Why would he teach his student how to fight the Uchiha eye genjutsu when the Uchiha were an apart of his own village?

Do you know what Kotoamatsukami does? please take it to the next thread and argue w.e point you have..


Now I know you are just being a dumb.If you know a jutsu you can find that jutsu's weakness.Minato was able to see the weakness of Kakashi's chidori the very first time he saw it.So are you trying to tell me a man who can find the weakness in a jutsu after one look at it, couldn't find a weakness in jutsus he's known about for years to decades? Not only that, If Minato is the Hokage, he's has knowledge pass down to him from previous generations.I would assume base on commonsense that along with the knowledge of how certain jutsus work, he would know their weaknesses as well.You said it yourself, Minato didn't fight the Uchihas, but the Senju did.The knowledge the Senju gather is yet another reason how Minato could know how to fight an Uchiha.Trying to compare teaching ones student how to fight against a fellow citizen and knowing how to fight against a fellow citizen is not same.And Kakashi don't try to make it seem like Kakashi just instinctively or unintentionally look into Itachi's eyes.Kakashi look into Itachi's eye on purpose because he thought his sharingan could go toe to toe with another sharingan users, which is why he look into Itachi eyes.Go an reread the chapter.



Kakashi closes his right eyes, leaving his sharingan eye open.

The third hokage knew every jutsu in konoha, and still got caught in a genjutsu, still got caught by the wood release, Minato saw chidor and knew it's weakness because he is smart.... 2 sannins both looked right at itachi's face and eyes in their encounters with him....why you think minato would not look at itachi's eyes? idk, when he clearly looked directly at tobi's...
 
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People......Itachi wins. Minato cannot fight someone at the level of ITachi while trying to avoid his eyes. Itachi is already too much "with eye contact, so no eye contact is nearly impossible, considering Itachi barely moves his feet.

Minato wud have to stay FAR away from Itachi to avoid his Genjutsu, actually that won't even help, cuz Itachi has crows he can use to cast Genjutsu, by just sending them all over the battlefeild.
 

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Omg you guys still at it one side is gonna say tsukiyomi the other ftg just get over it and agree to disagree.
Yea man, but look tsukyomi is short range and ftg is any range and is a lot faster, he cud kill him with this. Also Minato cud just blind him and kill him instantly.

Minato wins U_U
 

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Yea man, but look tsukyomi is short range and ftg is any range and is a lot faster, he cud kill him with this. Also Minato cud just blind him and kill him instantly.

Minato wins U_U
blind and instantly kill? firstly i'm a bit confused , i haven't seen minato use any blinding jutsu , and so has wikipedia...

Contract Seal (Manga only)
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
Flying Thunder God Technique
Four Symbols Seal
Rasengan
Space–Time Barrier (Manga only)
Summoning Technique


^ those are all minato used......

i would love to see a manga chapter where he blinds someone.. i hope you know , if this was in some anime episode and not in the manga it isnt canon..


Lol, I can't wait for Kishi to rename this series "Uchiha". Clearly you think no one can beat a Uchiha
oh the uchiha aren't my favourite clan, and itaci is not my favourite character, and i can list for you people who can defeat him in a fight, minato is not one of them
 

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blind and instantly kill? firstly i'm a bit confused , i haven't seen minato use any blinding jutsu , and so has wikipedia...

Contract Seal (Manga only)
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
Flying Thunder God Technique
Four Symbols Seal
Rasengan
Space–Time Barrier (Manga only)
Summoning Technique


^ those are all minato used......

i would love to see a manga chapter where he blinds someone.. i hope you know , if this was in some anime episode and not in the manga it isnt canon..
Someone posted Minato using a blinding jutsu on the nine tails earlier. Please pay attention to the thread more carefully
 

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Do you know what Kotoamatsukami does? please take it to the next thread and argue w.e point you have..





The third hokage knew every jutsu in konoha, and still got caught in a genjutsu, still got caught by the wood release, Minato saw chidor and knew it's weakness because he is smart.... 2 sannins both looked right at itachi's face and eyes in their encounters with him....why you think minato would not look at itachi's eyes? idk, when he clearly looked directly at tobi's...
You do know the third hokage was fighting two of the strongest shinobis in the history of the world, right? You also know that the third hokage was an old man, a shell of his former self, stated by one of the anbu black ops, fighting two Edo Hokages, right?As for 2 sannin looking into Itachi's eyes, I only remember Orochimaru looking into Itachi's eyes when he thought he could catch Itachi off guard.Not that it matters.
 

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blind and instantly kill? firstly i'm a bit confused , i haven't seen minato use any blinding jutsu , and so has wikipedia...

Contract Seal (Manga only)
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
Flying Thunder God Technique
Four Symbols Seal
Rasengan
Space–Time Barrier (Manga only)
Summoning Technique


^ those are all minato used......

i would love to see a manga chapter where he blinds someone.. i hope you know , if this was in some anime episode and not in the manga it isnt canon..




oh the uchiha aren't my favourite clan, and itaci is not my favourite character, and i can list for you people who can defeat him in a fight, minato is not one of them
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He used this to blind the fox to get near him. Also wiki is made of fans like us, anime and manga are both confirmed by Kishi before they are released, well except maybe the fillers and movies.

Also he wouldn't need this.

Minato cud keep a distance avoiding genjutsu, he cud spam ftg and dodge all of his attacks.

FTG is too fast for anything in the beginning of the fight, when a kunai is thrown Itachi wud have to block it, Minato appears with a rasengan in his hand and kills him instantly.

Also I cud list some ppl who cud beat Minato but as u can see Itachi wud most likely lose.
 

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He used this to blind the fox to get near him. Also wiki is made of fans like us, anime and manga are both confirmed by Kishi before they are released, well except maybe the fillers and movies.

Also he wouldn't need this.

Minato cud keep a distance avoiding genjutsu, he cud spam ftg and dodge all of his attacks.

FTG is too fast for anything in the beginning of the fight, when a kunai is thrown Itachi wud have to block it, Minato appears with a rasengan in his hand and kills him instantly.

Also I cud list some ppl who cud beat Minato but as u can see Itachi wud most likely lose.
that was never in the manga, or databooks, and is not cannon , sorry
 

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Guys, stop arguing this! Itachi would own all, I finally have seen the light, read this thread, I think it makes it very clear!!!
 

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The requirements of breaking genjutsu; is that you need a special training to break it.Minato has no feat of special training,it's a fan faith to believe that he could break genjutsu without special training.

Itachi could trick visual masters in to suicide;while him not realizing that he's in genjutsu,and thus indicating that Minato need dojutsu;partner;tailed beast for him to realize that he's in an illusion.

Oh and I love the way that you arbitrarily believe Itachi would sit idle watching Minato struggling in his genjutsu,while he could just slash him with Kunai in reality.
 
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Minato Namikaze-High class shinobi, great analyst from the way he could counter Tobi, can basically predict his enemies as seen when he knew A would go after all his marked Kunai so he marked B, he knew that Tobi will try to touch then warp him and he acted to counter then defeated him, this is a man that is usually always a step ahead of his enemies, in all his battles the very second he has any sort of information on them. Its pretty widespread information that Sharingan users are short range genjutsu users, That is fact no 1. I'm a fan of Minato even I didnt know he could do anything when A went after his marked Kunai. Minato will know about Uchiha casting genjutsu with their eyes and go long range. He can throw Kunai from anywhere. Itachi will either block the kunai or dodge them, however it doesnt matter because aall Minato needs is one close enough to Itachi, FTG is a well known tech so Itachi will know he'll try to teleport out of Kunai so he wont block but dodge so Minato cant appear near him but any kunai dodge is another marking of the battlefield, in due time Itachi will ot have anywhere to run and Minato can teleport to those already thrown kunai to throw his kunais at a range closer to Itachi, Itachi can't take this opportunity to genjutsu him because will he may expect it, he cant know which Kunai Minato will teleport to, he cant know where his opponent will come from, Minato will Itachi appear near one of the Kunai close to Itachi and throw more kunais at him, Itachi will be more concerned with blocking the fatal kunais or dodging them rather than casting a genjutsu which will allow the thrown kunais to come dangerously close to Itachi, he will have no time to react when Minato teleports again because he still wont know which kunai he will come from, Kakashi is very fast but the range that Pain launched that nail at Kakashi was too close for Kakashi to dodge so hhe used Kamui, Minato at this point will be at that range for Itachi and Itahi wont have time to react or dodge, at most he block the Kunai but Minato can appear behind him even if the marked kunai is in front of him and kill him, another option for Itachi is to use Susanoo to block the Kunai but Minato will still teleport to it and if he cant attack because of Susanoo, he'll think ahead and mark Itachi before teleport far away to avoid a genjutsu being cat on him, at this stage of the battle its already over as Minato can teleport into Susanoo and kill Itachi without a doubt. He wont have time to use Amaterasu because in the fight I've narrated above, Minato will not give him the time to prepare it, if Sasuke could hinder his preparation of it with a rigged shuriken, Minato can with a flurry of kunai, and he cant use the Goukakyu to buy time like he did with Sasuke because while Gokakyu can block some kunai, it cant block all of them and Itachi will want to avoid any one getting behind him at all cost, he wont even have the time to form the seals since he's being continually attacked so any thing is of his techs are out of the question since this is literally the fastest jutsu in recorded shinobi history, Ive never even heard of an opponent forming seals while facing Minato.
 

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Minato Namikaze-High class shinobi, great analyst from the way he could counter Tobi, can basically predict his enemies as seen when he knew A would go after all his marked Kunai so he marked B, he knew that Tobi will try to touch then warp him and he acted to counter then defeated him, this is a man that is usually always a step ahead of his enemies, in all his battles the very second he has any sort of information on them. Its pretty widespread information that Sharingan users are short range genjutsu users, That is fact no 1. I'm a fan of Minato even I didnt know he could do anything when A went after his marked Kunai. Minato will know about Uchiha casting genjutsu with their eyes and go long range. He can throw Kunai from anywhere. Itachi will either block the kunai or dodge them, however it doesnt matter because aall Minato needs is one close enough to Itachi, FTG is a well known tech so Itachi will know he'll try to teleport out of Kunai so he wont block but dodge so Minato cant appear near him but any kunai dodge is another marking of the battlefield, in due time Itachi will ot have anywhere to run and Minato can teleport to those already thrown kunai to throw his kunais at a range closer to Itachi, Itachi can't take this opportunity to genjutsu him because will he may expect it, he cant know which Kunai Minato will teleport to, he cant know where his opponent will come from, Minato will Itachi appear near one of the Kunai close to Itachi and throw more kunais at him, Itachi will be more concerned with blocking the fatal kunais or dodging them rather than casting a genjutsu which will allow the thrown kunais to come dangerously close to Itachi, he will have no time to react when Minato teleports again because he still wont know which kunai he will come from, Kakashi is very fast but the range that Pain launched that nail at Kakashi was too close for Kakashi to dodge so hhe used Kamui, Minato at this point will be at that range for Itachi and Itahi wont have time to react or dodge, at most he block the Kunai but Minato can appear behind him even if the marked kunai is in front of him and kill him, another option for Itachi is to use Susanoo to block the Kunai but Minato will still teleport to it and if he cant attack because of Susanoo, he'll think ahead and mark Itachi before teleport far away to avoid a genjutsu being cat on him, at this stage of the battle its already over as Minato can teleport into Susanoo and kill Itachi without a doubt. He wont have time to use Amaterasu because in the fight I've narrated above, Minato will not give him the time to prepare it, if Sasuke could hinder his preparation of it with a rigged shuriken, Minato can with a flurry of kunai, and he cant use the Goukakyu to buy time like he did with Sasuke because while Gokakyu can block some kunai, it cant block all of them and Itachi will want to avoid any one getting behind him at all cost, he wont even have the time to form the seals since he's being continually attacked so any thing is of his techs are out of the question since this is literally the fastest jutsu in recorded shinobi history, Ive never even heard of an opponent forming seals while facing Minato.
u are wasting ur time just let this thread die
 
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