[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 560 Discussion and 561 Predictions

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Re: Naruto Manga 560 Discussion and 561 Predictions

hey i just noticed that this jutsu is same as edo-madara does in chapter 560
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but madara got a bigger one.
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wow man, great job, so that FREAKIN HUGE STONE IS JUST MADARA USING BANSHO TENIN? OMG, that is too much, his Shinra Tensei must be BIGGER THAN NAGATO´S WHICH DESTROYED KONOHA, WTF?
 

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if tobi=obito i will delete this account and NEVER come on this site ever again, i wouldnt be able to handle the boasting of people who said tobi is obito without even putting thought into it.
 

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Let me try this again my friend I'm not trying to lose you....

1. Black Zestu is a human form of the 10th tail of the Juubi. He shape like a human but is not a human.

2. When White Zestu was created also he was as he is now but whole instead on being split in half. He was a whole body.

3. Now split both Black Zestu and White Zestu in halfs but put them back together as opposite. Black/White. White/Black

1.Black/White is Zestu

2.White/Black is Tobi. Tobi consist of a clone Madara but underneath his left half is the other half of Black Zestu he's more like an exoskeleton with a clone coat over it.... This is what I mean....logic!

I don't expect you to understand it's complicated... I wish I could just say it Obito and make it easier...but that's not logic!
Ok.

So what i what to know from you is exactly how you think white was made, i understand that is is made from black zestu with hashiramas dna but how. How exactly did he get his own body after being made from the black zetsu.
And did this just happen right after the uchiha and senju fight?

And why does tobi need both madaras and hashiramas dna to complete himself into juubi form, is it like what i said in my "something crazy here" post?
 

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guys, the uchiha beeing able to unlock the rinnegan is totally wrong, because the rinnegan cannot be deactivated, that's why nagato uses it all the time.
and why would Tobi put a sharingan and a rinnegan on each one of the jinchurikis and himself if the rinnegan is just an evolution of the sharingan?? that doesn't make sense at all!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Despite what majority of people here says that Tobi is Madara's memory, body or whatever, I thinks it's just as far fetched as my theory.

Now, It's clearly stated on Chapter 520 pg 11 that in order for the impure world resurrection technique to work, the summoned soul should reside on the pure world, so it means that the person being summoned should be dead. And the only way for a soul to be in the pure world is through death.

Now, it's established that Madara is/has dead/died.

As to the guy declaring to be Madara named Tobi, it could be just a pretty lie just to mess with our heads and just focus on his statements that he is Madara. Very misleading indeed.

Now, I know for a fact that Kabuto knew that Tobi is not Madara as again referring to Chapter 520 pg 11, Kabuto needs a sufficient amount of "Blueprint" or DNA in order for the summoning to be made. Now think if this, If Tobi was Madara would he let Kabuto cut a piece of him just to summon him???? I think not. Kabuto found what's left of Madara (which could be a bone or whatever) so he was able to summon him back.

With that, I can establish that, Tobi wants to mislead everyone to think that he is Madara to hide his true intentions.

Next, not because we saw Tobi first with a sharingan or mangekyo or whatever, it can be said that he is an Uchiha. Take Kakashi and Danzo or whatever for example.

All the proof that most people post's could very be a part of Masashi's grand plan of deceiving us all or whatever. I think it's the simple details that we tend to overlook that we need to look deeper on.

Now here's my far fetched theory...

We all know that it was from Tobi that we knew what the sage of the six paths did. How did Tobi knew about the sage of the six paths?? and in fact the details of what the sage did were never mentioned before he appeared in the manga???

It was also revealed that Tobi was the one who founded the Akatsuki with a mission to gather the tailed beasts.

In the beginning, as what Tobi told us, there was just the ten tailed. it's chakra was divided and it's body became the moon. Tobi plans to use the moon for his genjutsu, or is it really a genjutsu?

I remember from a chapter saying that Tobi was pure evil because he was not even driven by revenge or pain or whatever negative feeling. So why does he want to create a genjutsu to control the world according to what he said?? But, we now know for a fact that Tobi is a liar saying that he is Madara, now, is he really trying to control the world or is he going for the pretense of evil?

Chapter 510 pg 12 talks about the six of the sage as being a requirement to complete something. "Two of the six paths.." meants 2 out of 6, or 2 down 4 more to go.

This gives us an impression that he wants to complete something, aside from gathering the tailed beasts to complete his so called plan of creating a worldwide genjutsu. Why would Tobi wanted to complete the six paths of the sage of the six paths? And to top it all, why was the sage of the six paths called sage of the six paths? Certainly it's not that because pain's techniques has paths on like (like Asura path or whatever).

Another thing, we all know that Tobi is a shell of his former self. A shell of someone grand and all knowing. Someone who knew how it all began because if not, he could never come up with all of his schemes.

Now if you are pissed with what I'm saying, just stop reading this and look for other threads cause the statements below could make this whole community revolt against me.

So you want to know what I'm thinking? Here it is.

Tobi wanted to gather the tailed beast not because he wanted to use it to create a genjusto using the moon. He wanted to gather the tailed beasts to be sealed in the moon.

Tobi lied about being Madara as Madara was the greatest villain of all time, he wanted to convince everyone that he is evil. Why? Because it's the only way for him to hide his real plans saying that he wanted to rule the world or whatever.

Tobi is the shell of his former self. He has only 2 of the six paths. When he completes the six paths, he will become his true self again. So what are the six paths? I dunno yet but I know for a fact that the six paths runs from the decendant of the Sage of the Six Paths (refer to chapter 510 pg 12).

So the bottom line. Why would Tobi do all of that?

Simple. He knew that he made a mistake from a long time ago of creating the ninja world with the power of the tailed beast on the people's hands. It only caused a lot war and suffering thus he felt it was all his fault. Now he plans on ending it for good.

Hence, I'm saying that Tobi is actually the Sage of the Six paths.

Too far fetched?? Who isn't??

If I'm right, well that would be nice.

But if I'm wrong, well, shame on me for thinking unlike everyone and thinking out the box. Shame on me for having a very wild imagination. LOL!
 

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Despite what majority of people here says that Tobi is Madara's memory, body or whatever, I thinks it's just as far fetched as my theory.

Now, It's clearly stated on Chapter 520 pg 11 that in order for the impure world resurrection technique to work, the summoned soul should reside on the pure world, so it means that the person being summoned should be dead. And the only way for a soul to be in the pure world is through death.

Now, it's established that Madara is/has dead/died.

As to the guy declaring to be Madara named Tobi, it could be just a pretty lie just to mess with our heads and just focus on his statements that he is Madara. Very misleading indeed.

Now, I know for a fact that Kabuto knew that Tobi is not Madara as again referring to Chapter 520 pg 11, Kabuto needs a sufficient amount of "Blueprint" or DNA in order for the summoning to be made. Now think if this, If Tobi was Madara would he let Kabuto cut a piece of him just to summon him???? I think not. Kabuto found what's left of Madara (which could be a bone or whatever) so he was able to summon him back.

With that, I can establish that, Tobi wants to mislead everyone to think that he is Madara to hide his true intentions.

Next, not because we saw Tobi first with a sharingan or mangekyo or whatever, it can be said that he is an Uchiha. Take Kakashi and Danzo or whatever for example.

All the proof that most people post's could very be a part of Masashi's grand plan of deceiving us all or whatever. I think it's the simple details that we tend to overlook that we need to look deeper on.

Now here's my far fetched theory...

We all know that it was from Tobi that we knew what the sage of the six paths did. How did Tobi knew about the sage of the six paths?? and in fact the details of what the sage did were never mentioned before he appeared in the manga???

It was also revealed that Tobi was the one who founded the Akatsuki with a mission to gather the tailed beasts.

In the beginning, as what Tobi told us, there was just the ten tailed. it's chakra was divided and it's body became the moon. Tobi plans to use the moon for his genjutsu, or is it really a genjutsu?

I remember from a chapter saying that Tobi was pure evil because he was not even driven by revenge or pain or whatever negative feeling. So why does he want to create a genjutsu to control the world according to what he said?? But, we now know for a fact that Tobi is a liar saying that he is Madara, now, is he really trying to control the world or is he going for the pretense of evil?

Chapter 510 pg 12 talks about the six of the sage as being a requirement to complete something. "Two of the six paths.." meants 2 out of 6, or 2 down 4 more to go.

This gives us an impression that he wants to complete something, aside from gathering the tailed beasts to complete his so called plan of creating a worldwide genjutsu. Why would Tobi wanted to complete the six paths of the sage of the six paths? And to top it all, why was the sage of the six paths called sage of the six paths? Certainly it's not that because pain's techniques has paths on like (like Asura path or whatever).

Another thing, we all know that Tobi is a shell of his former self. A shell of someone grand and all knowing. Someone who knew how it all began because if not, he could never come up with all of his schemes.

Now if you are pissed with what I'm saying, just stop reading this and look for other threads cause the statements below could make this whole community revolt against me.

So you want to know what I'm thinking? Here it is.

Tobi wanted to gather the tailed beast not because he wanted to use it to create a genjusto using the moon. He wanted to gather the tailed beasts to be sealed in the moon.

Tobi lied about being Madara as Madara was the greatest villain of all time, he wanted to convince everyone that he is evil. Why? Because it's the only way for him to hide his real plans saying that he wanted to rule the world or whatever.

Tobi is the shell of his former self. He has only 2 of the six paths. When he completes the six paths, he will become his true self again. So what are the six paths? I dunno yet but I know for a fact that the six paths runs from the decendant of the Sage of the Six Paths (refer to chapter 510 pg 12).

So the bottom line. Why would Tobi do all of that?

Simple. He knew that he made a mistake from a long time ago of creating the ninja world with the power of the tailed beast on the people's hands. It only caused a lot war and suffering thus he felt it was all his fault. Now he plans on ending it for good.

Hence, I'm saying that Tobi is actually the Sage of the Six paths.

Too far fetched?? Who isn't??

If I'm right, well that would be nice.

But if I'm wrong, well, shame on me for thinking unlike everyone and thinking out the box. Shame on me for having a very wild imagination. LOL!
There was constant war and suffering during the so6p.
He spread the beast to try and equal out the power so everyone would stop fighting ( almost like they all have nukes but no one wants to send out the first one)
Plus the sage died and his eyes went to uchicha, body to senju blah blah.

Finally if he really wanted to seal away the beast completely thus bring his wrong to a right. Don't you think the god of the naruto universe can find a better way to do that. Like not kill all the jinchuriki.

Perhaps ask them kindly, or offer them a drink?
 

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There was constant war and suffering during the so6p.
He spread the beast to try and equal out the power so everyone would stop fighting ( almost like they all have nukes but no one wants to send out the first one)
Plus the sage died and his eyes went to uchicha, body to senju blah blah.

Finally if he really wanted to seal away the beast completely thus bring his wrong to a right. Don't you think the god of the naruto universe can find a better way to do that. Like not kill all the jinchuriki.

Perhaps ask them kindly, or offer them a drink?
Was there already war even before there were ninjas???
If I could recall, it was the so6p that created the ninja world first, then there were wars...
If he was so powerful and so great, i think the so6p wouldn't die that easily or whatever. Even Madara who was dead came back to life, how more the so6p that was never proven to be dead.

Killing the jinchuriki's doesn't meant killing the bijuus..

well. I'm just writing what's on my mind or whatever. LOL
 

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here's wat i think.. Since edo madara knows about nagato, its possible that he survived the battle wit hashirama. May be madara awakened the rinnegan after his fight wit hashirama, and to get rinnegan he needed some part of senju in him, lik wat danzo had to be able to use izanagi. going by this theory, rinnegan is not the natural next level to EMS and sasuke probably would not hav it..
 

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Was there already war even before there were ninjas???
If I could recall, it was the so6p that created the ninja world first, then there were wars...
If he was so powerful and so great, i think the so6p wouldn't die that easily or whatever. Even Madara who was dead came back to life, how more the so6p that was never proven to be dead.

Killing the jinchuriki's doesn't meant killing the bijuus..

well. I'm just writing what's on my mind or whatever. LOL
Jiraiya said the sage was a priest that showed up during an age of endless war. And went around teaching everyone the truth about chakra.

madara coming back to life is only thanks to edo-tensei.

And killing the junchurikis is a bad thing to do, meaning the sage wouldn't just go around killing people to get back what he gave to them.He was the great good of the world.
 

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Yep I believe in it too right now. Tobi is so6p. He wants his power back by obtaining the tails. He appeared after his sons died.
 

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This is how I view The Sage before he became The SO6P's

Sage was like a Monk/Journeyman. Like Jariya and Wise like The Elder Honorable Geezer Toad. I think he was at peace with Nature, so he was full of natrul energy, that same energy that Naruto gathers to change into Sage mode.

I believe when the Sage became the host of the 10 tail Juubi. That's when he became the SO6P's. The Omnigan of The Juubi became the Sage eyes and all of the Juubi's powers was transfer as well. *

Think about it: Juubi enormous amount of evil "Dark" chakra..Sage enormous amount of good "Natural" energy.

Senju *DNA = Natural = Sage
Uchiha Eyes = Dark = Juubi

When you add Senju DNA with Uchiha Eyes. What are you able to use? Izanagi = Create= 1 of the paths of the SO6P's

When the Sage became the SO6P's. He was able to create because of Izanagi. So he created the Ninja format, not the people because people was already in existence, just the lifestyle you can say...

Realize: The Sage was still human he just obtained God like abilities, and powers when he became the Juubi's host. Stating this information, this means no matter how Godly like he was he wasn't immortal... He got older as time passed. Because that's what happens to human we get older through time. So as he got older the seal that kept the Juubi imprison started to get weak...

Something to think about: The Kyuubi was sealed into Naruto Uzamaki as a baby, by his Father Minato. As Naruto got older the seal became weaker and weaker through time because of the Kyuubi trying to escape...

What I'm saying is the SO6P's was getting old...he was dying put it like that. No matter how many times he would have redid *the seal, he was going to die and the Juubi was going to be in the free World again. But way before this happend....

This is when he used Izanagi to carry on his Legacy: The creation of both his sons...And later came the creations of the Bijuu taled beasts and Black Zestu, right before he died..logic!
 
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Yep I believe in it too right now. Tobi is so6p. He wants his power back by obtaining the tails. He appeared after his sons died.
It's not the SO6P's because it wasn't his powers to begin with... It was the Juubi's powers. The Sage obtained these powers when he became the host of the Juubi..That's when he became SO6P's...logic!
 

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hey i just noticed that this jutsu is same as edo-madara does in chapter 560
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but madara got a bigger one.
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This Meteor thing was not only summoned ..Look at the burnt bottom of this Meteor. That almost looks like One Big Eye. That mean this thing traveled some distance at a fast rate into the Earths Atmosphere. I think it's It!
 

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This is how I view The Sage before he became The SO6P's

Sage was like a Monk/Journeyman. Like Jariya and Wise like The Elder Honorable Geezer Toad. I think he was at peace with Nature, so he was full of natrul energy, that same energy that Naruto gathers to change into Sage mode.

I believe when the Sage became the host of the 10 tail Juubi. That's when he became the SO6P's. The Omnigan of The Juubi became the Sage eyes and all of the Juubi's powers was transfer as well. *

Think about it: Juubi enormous amount of evil "Dark" chakra..Sage enormous amount of good "Natural" energy.

Senju *DNA = Natural = Sage
Uchiha Eyes = Dark = Juubi

When you add Senju DNA with Uchiha Eyes. What are you able to use? Izanagi = Create= 1 of the paths of the SO6P's

When the Sage became the SO6P's. He was able to create because of Izanagi. So he created the Ninja format, not the people because people was already in existence, just the lifestyle you can say...

Realize: The Sage was still human he just obtained God like abilities, and powers when he became the Juubi's host. Stating this information, this means no matter how Godly like he was he wasn't immortal... He got older as time passed. Because that's what happens to human we get older through time. So as he got older the seal that kept the Juubi imprison started to get weak...

Something to think about: The Kyuubi was sealed into Naruto Uzamaki as a baby, by his Father Minato. As Naruto got older the seal became weaker and weaker through time because of the Kyuubi trying to escape...

What I'm saying is the SO6P's was getting old...he was dying put it like that. No matter how many times he would have redid *the seal, he was going to die and the Juubi was going to be in the free World again. But way before this happend....

This is when he used Izanagi to carry on his Legacy: The creation of both his sons...And later came the creations of the Bijuu taled beasts and Black Zestu, right before he died..logic!






only one thing i opposed in your theory is this that izangi is the jutsu which a person use on himself to change the illusionary things into real and vice versa. The things which are happen to that person performing the justsu it is not any concerned with any other person.
 

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This Meteor thing was not only summoned ..Look at the burnt bottom of this Meteor. That almost looks like One Big Eye. That mean this thing traveled some distance at a fast rate into the Earths Atmosphere. I think it's It!



i think that it is the time when one clone of naruto is fighting with itachi abd the other clone on any other place fighting with madara just a thought;)
 

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only one thing i opposed in your theory is this that izangi is the jutsu which a person use on himself to change the illusionary things into real and vice versa. The things which are happen to that person performing the justsu it is not any concerned with any other person.
You thinking of Izanagi at Danzo or Tobi/Madara level.

I'm talking about Izanagi at SO6P's level....This level you have to be the host of the Juubi.
 

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since this will never be read....


my snorlax easily defeats your underleveled pikachu!!!
 
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