[Theory] I Hope this ends the Who is tobi Question.

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Madara is the true mastermind? Dude.. he's completely unaware of what is happening right now. He knows it's "his" doing but that's all he knows.




No, it's just an dramatic act he put up to convince Sasuke. He's the master of manipulation. Remember how good he was at being silly dufus when he was Deidara's partner? And I don't believe it's Izuna. Tobi has techiques that no other man, known to us, has ever had. Not even Madara. Not to mention that Tobi looks way smarter and wiser than Madara. How come someone who was inferior to Madara became so powerful? And don't give me the bullsh.. about how Izuna is one the same level as Madara. It's obviosly Madara is superior to Izuna, his position as the leader of Uchiha is one of the indications for that.

Proof that Madara was stonger than Izuna :




"I was born with the greatest, strongest chakra they'd ever seen."
"But thanks to those efforts I obtained a flawless mangekyou sharingan, and became Leader of Uchiha."


There, you see now. Madara was stronger than Izuna.


P.S.
Izuna is dead.
Agreed, Izuna is dead.
 

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Nope he was angry and squeezed his arm because he was remembering his precious brother. He was mad because he respected Izuna's wishes to give him his eyes, but was later abandoned by his clan. So he was mad that Izuna's sacrifice was all in vain considering he could not use his newfound power to properly rule the uchiha.
That i Don't believe. That's basically an emphasis.
 

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Madara is the true mastermind? Dude.. he's completely unaware of what is happening right now. He knows it's "his" doing but that's all he knows.




No, it's just an dramatic act he put up to convince Sasuke. He's the master of manipulation. Remember how good he was at being silly dufus when he was Deidara's partner? And I don't believe it's Izuna. Tobi has techiques that no other man, known to us, has ever had. Not even Madara. Not to mention that Tobi looks way smarter and wiser than Madara. How come someone who was inferior to Madara became so powerful? And don't give me the bullsh.. about how Izuna is one the same level as Madara. It's obviosly Madara is superior to Izuna, his position as the leader of Uchiha is one of the indications for that.

Proof that Madara was stonger than Izuna :




"I was born with the greatest, strongest chakra they'd ever seen."
"But thanks to those efforts I obtained a flawless mangekyou sharingan, and became Leader of Uchiha."


There, you see now. Madara was stronger than Izuna.


P.S.
Izuna is dead.
If you remember when madara said everything "Tobi" Was doing was not going according to plan. Who else would madara trust with his life besides his won brother. And We've seen plenty of times someone replicates a fake body.
 

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Actually he seems to squeeze his arm out of anger that the Uchiha agreed with the truce.
Not because his brother willingly sacrificed his eyes.
Seemingly can be true but, all the same Tobi has to be izuna. And people are saying he's dead and tobi is obito but last time i checked obito was dead too. But iDont think that was izuna's real body. We've seen plenty of times someone replicate a dead body.
 

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Agreed, Izuna is dead.
Well, most of us (if not all) thought Madara was alive and well inside the Tobi regime. Yet it turns out dear old Maddie had passed away after all.

I say, anything is possible with Kishmoto :D It could be Izuna, nice observation there. It'd be just lovely if this whole Moon's Eye Plan was a dual effort by both brothers (Tobi starting it, Madara claiming and completing it) :)
 

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Well, most of us (if not all) thought Madara was alive and well inside the Tobi regime. Yet it turns out dear old Maddie had passed away after all.

I say, anything is possible with Kishmoto :D It could be Izuna, nice observation there. It'd be just lovely if this whole Moon's Eye Plan was a dual effort by both brothers (Tobi starting it, Madara claiming and completing it) :)
ThaNNks ! You summed up everything I said but I guess they didn't get it.
 

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Is it possible that orochimaru or kabuto somehow got the DNA of tobi and thats why they created that special Imoure world resurrection????
No iThink tobi has been alive but has been experimenting on his body. And yes there has to be a reason as to how they got madara's DNA to summon him. and during the fight with the first hokage im kno for a fact he wouldn't leave madara body there to sit after killing him, Then that would lead to a information leak.
 
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ikiddmars, this picture you show is pretty damn nice, and definately a possible hint at something (Which is bigger than any of us can interpret at the momment).
If Tobi really didn't control that squeezing the arm then definately it means he was involved in the events he was telling... but Tobi is a mastermind who can even manage making Nagato his personal puppet...... Maybe he just made that squeeze on purpose cause he's just dat good at lying :)
 

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It's a good theory but it's not going to end "Who is Tobi Theories". The only one who can do that is Kishi when he finally has Tobi take his mask off.

But I don't think it is Izuna personally. But whoever Tobi is I think he is related to Madara & Izuna maybe like one of there son's or something like that. But not Izuna himself.
 
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