Orochimaru vs. Pain

[FloriGlori]

I used the search button and was unable to find a thread like this, so yes. At first glance Pain's victory may seem obvious, but after considering it properly I think this would be an interesting battle. Of course we're talking about a healthy Orochimaru like the one that fought Naruto. Since he can undo nearly every kind of physical damage done to his body by skinning himself he would be tough to kill. In addition his snake-attacks can't be absorbed since they're based on Kuchyose. He's able to summon bigger snakes to protect himself (like the one Sasuke used against Deidara), on top of that he can summon at least four huge snakes (Manda and the three big ones with the scarfs, he (Otogakure) used to attack Konoha), and two slighty smaller ones - the ones he used at the Chunin exams. Furthermore he's in possession of Kusanagi ( which can be extended to at least 100 meters) and can in worst case transform himself into Yamata no Oroichi or the white snake, the form he used to fight Sasuke. I also see several ways for him to avoid Chibaku Tensei. Pain's incredible power should be known to everyone, so I don't see any need to mention it. I didn't made up my mind about it entirely yet, but at least I think there's a chance that Orochimaru could win this. So, how high or low do you rate his chance of victory? To cover every oppinion you'll have plenty of options to choose from in the poll. :b

Oh, I see that I made a mistake in the poll. Replace Pain with Orochimaru in the option 'Pain would crush him like.. six flys'. It's supposed to be 'Orochimaru would crush him like.. six flys'.

One more edit; I see that many of you are talking about Nagato. I'm talking about the six paths of Pain, not Nagato in person. It doesn't matter (for the time being) if Orochimaru could find & defeat Nagato's real body.

 

[ReXii]

Nagato wins but it would be a tough fight but in the long run i cant see even oro surviving chibaku tensei or the shinra tensei's 5 second defense being broken by oro's techs

 

[Tosen]

Pain would win

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Chibaku Tensei

 

[Cloudbuster]

Orochimaru uses Edo Tensei, summons Madara and he beats the crap out of Pain

 

[arv993]

oro can't win but if he uses edo and summons strong summons like madara yes he is going to win.

 

[damoney8888]

Since orochi didnt have anyone as good as kabuto does for edo summoning he would get trashed on so easily, which is y it has never been made, people can use common sense.

 

[ultimate ninja king]

pain all the way orochimaru wouldnt even get close to him

 

[kadowade]

I think pain Might win. But Chibaku Tensei is a problem for Orochimaru. But of course Orochimaru has attacks that can be used during Chibaku Tensei preparation time.
Like: using Kusanagi on pain, before he's sucked up by Chibaku Tensei.

No one with a conscious mind and intellect, would sit there while Chibaku Tensei is being prepared, without having a counter for it. Fox naruto did because he was controlled by anger, and couldn't even think, and didn't even know what he was doing. Only way for Orochimaru to escape is attacking fast, before he crushed. If he misses his chance laughing or something, he's dead.
But Oro, has Edo tensei which might do good

 

[khaydz5]

Orochimaru uses Edo Tensei, summons Madara and he beats the crap out of Pain

too bad he doesn't have madara.. don't compare kabuto's edo to orochi's because kabuto already surpass oro and tobirama with it..

orochimaru will end up dying like jiraiya if he doesn't know pain's secret.. and I think oro will do no better than what jiraiya did.

 

[DevonV]

Orochimaru because he has the best vitality of any character.

 

[LolaxXx]

Pain would win. Orochimaru is probabaly on par with Hanzo or maybe better, but not by much, Pain easily took out Hanzou. Pain can uses many summons and his summons are all better than orochi's snakes. Asura path can ahndle the snakes, by shooting lasers and missles at them, pain also has pretty good taijutsu, and is really quick and agile, and has those chakra rods that could control orochi's chakra. Shinra tensei will do pretty good against oro, and sure, a five second interval, but the other 5 bodies could easily keep orochi occupied. Orochi will eventually get tired while Nagato will still have alot of chakra left, remember, he owned the entire leaf village before he destroyed it, Orochimaru wouldve benn pulverized if he tried that with konoha

 

[Owarij]

Orochimaru because he has the best vitality of any character.

no..oro because your his fanboy




ot- pain obviously, as strong as oro is, he has no justsu capable of beating chibaku tensei

 

[Splendid Ninja]

are u kidding?
Itachi killed him in a few seconds while fighting sasuke XD.
Nagat full health will kill him to.

 

[FloriGlori]

Orochimaru is probabaly on par with Hanzo or maybe better, but not by much, Pain easily took out Hanzou.

Actually we can't say that, since we haven't seen much of him yet. What we saw was that even Mifune was able to keep up with him.

Pain can uses many summons and his summons are all better than orochi's snakes.

I think you're slightly underestimating Orochimaru's snakes. They're way bigger than any of Pain's creatures, moreover Pain would/could never summon all of them at the same time. They would stand in each others ways and would be more of a disadvantage than an advantage in that case. In addition Orochimaru's snakes are pretty robust - Pain's centipedes died by explosive seals & a punch from Sakura, whereas the smaller snake Sasuke used in to protect himself from Deidara even survived two of Deidara's clay bombs. They also can skin and dig in themselves.

Asura path can ahndle the snakes, by shooting lasers and missles at them

As I said, even the small snake Sasuke used to protect himself didn't take heavy injuries from Deidara's clay bombs, so I don't think that Shurado's attacks would work against Orochimaru's huge snakes. He could destroy the smaller ones though, like Sen'ei Jashu, that's true.

pain also has pretty good taijutsu, and is really quick and agile

Pain didn't stand out with notable speed or Taijutsu as far as I know. He was on Naruto's level without sennin modo, which is nothing special. Anyway, getting too close to Orochimaru is actually pretty dangerous, since he use Sen'ei Jashu or Jagei Jabaku any time to bind & kill a body. That makes it hard to hit him with chakra rods. Even if Pain would hit him with them once ir twice, or kill him another way (what I definitely don't doubt), there's that monstrous reincarnation Jutsu, which he can use to undo any kind of physical damage. While fighting Kyuubi he used it three times, so you could say he has four lives.

Shinra tensei will do pretty good against oro, and sure, a five second interval, but the other 5 bodies could easily keep orochi occupied.

I'm not quite sure about that. Orochimaru is pretty robust, too. Tsunade literally beat him up with her brute strentgh, but he couldn't be killed. Naruto shredded his face & hurled him into tthe forest, but Orochimaru just laughed and acted like nothing happened. Even as Kyuubi ripped him appart he could put himself back together. Orochimaru is persistent, so I doubt that a few Shinra Tenseis are enough to defeat him. The other bodies aren't that much of a threat. Even Konohamaru managed to kill Jigokudo, and if it wasn't for Tendo Naruto would've beaten Pain alone. Tendo is the most dangerous part about Pain.

Orochi will eventually get tired while Nagato will still have alot of chakra left, remember, he owned the entire leaf village before he destroyed it

Well, we never saw Orochimaro getting exhaustet. But you're right, Pain's/Nagato's imense amount of Chakra is incredible, that can't be doubt.

As before, I neither think Orochimaru would win, nor do I think Pain would, but I think that Orochimaru has chances against Pain, and he definitely wouldn't be just crushed like a fly.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Pain all the way

 

[LEAU92]

Pain would layeth the smacketh down on orochimaru.

orochimaru would use edo tensei, but then that wouldn't be pain vs orochimaru, that would be pain vs orochimaru+other shinobi.

Orochimaru's summons are really unreliable, Manda for one hates everyone, EVEN orochimaru lol (saying that he will punish him if he doesn't win against tsunade and jiraiya lol).

And orochimaru can't even beat Itachi, so i dont think he stands a chance against pain.

 

[The Eye]

Pain would crush him like.. six flys.
thats what i voted for was for pain
regardless if you ment to put oro i see pain
and there is no way oro can beat pain when oro almost lost to the 4tails
and pain was holding back the 9 tails
Now do you mean Pain as the `1 body or nagato as controlling all 6?

 

[FloriGlori]

Read my first post, I'm talking about the six paths, not Nagato in person. Yes, I made a mistake there, it's supposed to be 'Orochimaru would crush him like.. six flys'. Oh, Orochimaru didn't lost. In fact he called his battle with Kyuubi nothing but a game. And do you thinkt that Pain would've been able to defeat the four tailed Naruto? If even Pian's strongest technique shows no effect?

Leau, it still would be, since Edo Tensei is a Ninjutsu. Otherwise we could simply forbid every Kuchyose. And just that you say even Itachi could defeat him shows me how 'much' you know about Naruto. Itachi is one of the most powerful Shinobi out there and at Pain's/Nagato's level, but that's another discussion. Apart from that he defeated Orochimaru with Genjutsu, something that Pain can't or don't use.

One more time, it's supposed to be 'Orochimaru would crush him like.. six flys', NOT 'Pain would crush him like.. six flys'.

 

[DigitalMonster]

Hashirama blinds all of Pain, and then binds most of the realms. Hashi can almost solo, but throwing in Orochimaru, Tobirama is too much.

 

[siyo]

I say pain, but orochimaru could potentially win, and people just like underrate him because of itachi, who just happened to be a bad match up for him.

And why do people talk about edo-tensei like its some sort of seperate being(i'm not talking about the souls), or an unfair advantage, when it's clearly part of oro's collection of jutsus.I see it in every oro thread,and i wonder how people can't see how moronic that sounds.Why not include the kyuubi, EMS and gates in the unfair advantages department?

Lol, this a tough match but if pain uses the rinnegan he might win,if not he will lose.