[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 560 Discussion and 561 Predictions

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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Wait, didn't Kabutomaru went to a place to get something? Like when Anko and her troop found ninjas dead in the hallways inside a building/village. Does this mean something? Man, Kabutomaru needs to show all of his powers now! Or else Kabutomaru will be confirmed as a useless sidekick.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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How did he use Chibaku tensei to put him in the moon and create a human form of him, The way i see it he does one or the other. And if he where to do both its seems that one of them would not go as planed such as that human body failing and dieng or the moon not being big enough or to big.

And saying that White zetsu is a good guy makes it hard to believe considering he is working with tobi and black zetsu. Tobi put hashiramas dna in white zetsu for a reason. Not to only end up foiling his own plan by creating an equal good to the amount of evil that is black zetsu.

Yes, White/Black Zetsu has never agreed with eachother as one, right? I remember a scene where White/Black Zetsu were one and each having their own opinions.

 

[Downforwardx]

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Yes, White/Black Zetsu has never agreed with eachother as one, right? I remember a scene where White/Black Zetsu were one and each having their own opinions.

They may not agree but that doesnt mean they are not on the same side.

Like i said why would tobi make white zetsu if he would end up being good.
If he was good like hashirama he would do everything to the best of his ability to stop tobi or at least slow him down.

He only combined hashiramas dna with the zetsu to make white zetsu for his power or to have his dna stored for something else.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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The scapegoats that Tobi owns, will be tough to defeat for these reasons.

1) Tobi somehow has full control over the Beasts.

2) Each host has a beast inside.

3) Each host has no soul. Or do they?

They also may be easy to defeat for these reason.

1) Since Tobi has control of the 7 hosts, just go for Tobi.

2) If each host has a soul, Naruto is the one to call to real talk it out.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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Is madara gonna use his sharingan to get narutos nine tails out?

He might try, but i don't see it succeeding. The bond between Naruto and the Fox will be too strong by then.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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How did he use Chibaku tensei to put him in the moon and create a human form of him, The way i see it he does one or the other. And if he where to do both its seems that one of them would not go as planed such as that human body failing and dieng or the moon not being big enough or to big.

And saying that White zetsu is a good guy makes it hard to believe considering he is working with tobi and black zetsu. Tobi put hashiramas dna in white zetsu for a reason. Not to only end up foiling his own plan by creating an equal good to the amount of evil that is black zetsu.

No your not understanding what I'm trying to explain...

There was 10 tails on the Juubi? Right. The SO6P's used Izunagi to change every tail of the Juubi into separate entities. They became known as the Bijuu tailed beasts. Only 9 beasts was created. So that leaves a tail of the beast uncounted for. Let's apply mathematics 10-9=1. We have a tail that's accounted for..Ok

As we all know that the least amount a tails on a Bijuu determines the beasts strength. 1 thru 9 the Kyuubi is the most powerful of them all, and the has the most evil in it.

I believe that the SO6P's, created a human like being out of the last tail of the Juubi. Black Zestu is the results.

The SO6P's drained the life-force out of the Bijuu, when he stripped it's tails from it's body...Tails represents life-force or energy. So the only thing left over was a dead body or a lifeless frame.

The SO6P's then used Chibaku Tensei to create the moon from the earth. As he was creating the moon, he incorporated The lifeless body of the Juubi into it.
I hope this is good enough for you! Logic!

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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They may not agree but that doesnt mean they are not on the same side.

Like i said why would tobi make white zetsu if he would end up being good.
If he was good like hashirama he would do everything to the best of his ability to stop tobi or at least slow him down.

He only combined hashiramas dna with the zetsu to make white zetsu for his power or to have his dna stored for something else.

Have you ever heard of peer pressure!!! When someone makes you do something eventhough you know it's wrong but you don't have a choice or your will isnt strong enough to do right.. Or your just doing what your told because your creator told you so...White Zestu was created by Black Zestu by using the DNA of Hashirama Senju.

 

[Downforwardx]

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No your not understanding what I'm trying to explain...

There was 10 tails on the Juubi? Right. The SO6P's used Izunagi to change every tail of the Juubi into separate entities. They became known as the Bijuu tailed beasts. Only 9 beasts was created. So that leaves a tail of the beast uncounted for. Let's apply mathematics 10-9=1. We have a tail that's accounted for..Ok

As we all know that the least amount a tails on a Bijuu determines the beasts strength. 1 thru 9 the Kyuubi is the most powerful of them all, and the has the most evil in it.

I believe that the SO6P's, created a human like being out of the last tail of the Juubi. Black Zestu is the results.

The SO6P's drained the life-force out of the Bijuu, when he stripped it's tails from it's body...Tails represents life-force or energy. So the only thing left over was a dead body or a lifeless frame.

The SO6P's then used Chibaku Tensei to create the moon from the earth. As he was creating the moon, he incorporated The lifeless body of the Juubi into it.
I hope this is good enough for you! Logic!

Now your idea is starting to flow, but what i want to know is why did he make it in a human form and not a beast. Or possibly seal away the last one in himself ( reasoning behind him not being able to do that with juubi was it was to strong if it is only one of the beast this would appear to be possible)

Also i recall that the black zetsu is not very stong, if he was the life-force of the last tail why is that so ( saying that the 10th tail is the strongest)
And if you say its because he is in a human form, wouldn't that be like being completely in sync with a beast thus becoming an "ultimate" jinchuriki.

This all still leaves the white zetsu unexplained.

I want to believe in your theory, if you would kindly keep answering my questions xd.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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KnowledgeGod has fantastic details. I think he's one of the top if not #1 on this thread. His details apply to everything. That's what happens when you do extra research on the topic. All i know is that Kishi's a master writer/artist.

Thanks!!!! I'm a try to do better explaining and with details...

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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I think That your hipothesis is rong but if you are rite than I give you major props and I admit I was wrong

Ok I can respect that my friend...

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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He has a good idea but its missing things.
And he doesn't fully explain all of his ideas.

I have older posts I'm a repost them so you can get more insight of the whole scheme of things.... I know I have to work on explaining my ideas a little more clearer but in due time...logic!

 

[Downforwardx]

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Have you ever heard of peer pressure!!! When someone makes you do something eventhough you know it's wrong but you don't have a choice or your will isnt strong enough to do right.. Or your just doing what your told because your creator told you so...White Zestu was created by Black Zestu by using the DNA of Hashirama Senju.

Not knowing how the dna "fusion" works makes it hard to say much.
If hashiramas mind, will, thoughts, or ideals are in there i wouldn't sell him short and say he fell to pear pressure. He was the great good of that era as madara is made out to be the great evil.

And if it is only the DNA coding that is in the white zetsu i find it hard to believe that he would represent good since he was made by evil.
It would be nothing more than a smoke screen.

And wouldn't that make zetsu 3/4 10 tail and 1/4 "good" or "hashirama"
(assuming that the dna makes up half of what white zetsu is.)

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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Guys, i think both white & black Zetsu have no soul.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

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They might just be attributes to Tobi or the plan.

 

[Downforwardx]

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They might just be attributes to Tobi or the plan.

Not sure what i believe.

I like KnowledgeGods ideas, but there are a few things that are unclear to me ( trying to break it down myself...logic xd)

Something crazy right here.
Original black zetsu is the 10 tails in human form, gets hashiramas and madaras dna from there fight. (as tobi not cloned as madara yet)
Then uses the dna of hashirama to use the white zetsu ability to clone anyone. Then cloning madara and combining them. (Tobi being the 10 tail and black/white zetsu being the prototype sage. half hashirama dna and half madara)

In the end the 10 tail in a human form (tobi) is trying to make a new sage combining the senju and uchiha dna from close descendents. Thus making a "prototype sage" being able to summon himself again and then combining the final tail with the rest to make himself the juubi again.

Totally random and not thought out i'd rather not be quoted on this unless you want to give me some credit lol.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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Now your idea is starting to flow, but what i want to know is why did he make it in a human form and not a beast. Or possibly seal away the last one in himself ( reasoning behind him not being able to do that with juubi was it was to strong if it is only one of the beast this would appear to be possible)

Also i recall that the black zetsu is not very stong, if he was the life-force of the last tail why is that so ( saying that the 10th tail is the strongest)
And if you say its because he is in a human form, wouldn't that be like being completely in sync with a beast thus becoming an "ultimate" jinchuriki.

This all still leaves the white zetsu unexplained.

I want to believe in your theory, if you would kindly keep answering my questions xd.

1. You will have to understand or have knowledge about yin yang theory... It will explain how good and evil has to coexist. You just can't get rid of evil it will always come back you just have to balance it out.

2. Nobody ever said Black Zestu wasn't strong. Tobi/Zestu said Zestu wasn't strong he was referring to White Zestu. The thing is Tobi/Madara dosnt distinguish the two as White or Black Zestu. He just says Zestu because they are a combination a unit. I explained this also in a ealier post.

3. White Zestu is what was created from Hashirama Senju DNA...Who created White Zestu? Black Zestu....simple as that. logic!

 

[Rico Uchiha]

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cool theories everywhere! I think Black Zetsu is very powerful, because without hesitation he went out to fight the Mizukage. Knowing that she wouldn't be alone.

Also he had a little talk with Tobi wether or not he should battle her. Both of them talked about it as if they had the situation under control with no doubt.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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Not knowing how the dna "fusion" works makes it hard to say much.
If hashiramas mind, will, thoughts, or ideals are in there i wouldn't sell him short and say he fell to pear pressure. He was the great good of that era as madara is made out to be the great evil.

And if it is only the DNA coding that is in the white zetsu i find it hard to believe that he would represent good since he was made by evil.
It would be nothing more than a smoke screen.

And wouldn't that make zetsu 3/4 10 tail and 1/4 "good" or "hashirama"
(assuming that the dna makes up half of what white zetsu is.)

1. White Zestu is an incomplete clone of Hashirama Senju...He's not a perfect clone that's why he has green hair and white skin... He don't even have a fully developed mind he's a special case, but he still has a large a mount of chakra and life force... As Hashirama

2. Yamato on the other hand is an example of a human form of Hashirama Senju. Orochimaru actually used a human speciment and injected the DNA of Hashirama. He's actually complete but not as strong as Hashirama

I hope this explains a little...logic!

 

[Downforwardx]

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1. You will have to understand or have knowledge about yin yang theory... It will explain how good and evil has to coexist. You just can't get rid of evil it will always come back you just have to balance it out.

2. Nobody ever said Black Zestu wasn't strong. Tobi/Zestu said Zestu wasn't strong he was referring to White Zestu. The thing is Tobi/Madara dosnt distinguish the two as White or Black Zestu. He just says Zestu because they are a combination a unit. I explained this also in a ealier post.

3. White Zestu is what was created from Hashirama Senju DNA...Who created White Zestu? Black Zestu....simple as that. logic!

Earlier post you say:
"1. Black Zestu = The 10th tail of the 10 tails Juubi in a human machine form. He knows everything because he's the beginning.

2. White Zestu = Hashirama clone powerful *source of energy with it's own personality who is able to copy an exact copy of his host. The Host = Madara. So this means he now talks, sounds, and even has the same chakra pattern of his copied host."

The other post you say:
"White Zestu had a whole body and Black Zestu had a whole body but they split themselves into two halfs. They merged as halfs....*"

How did they both have whole bodies if white zestu was a clone of black.

Did black zestu add the dna then split off into 2 whole bodies.
Did black zetsu make 2 equal potions of himself then add the dna to only 1.
Or did black and white zetsu already have full bodies?
If the last one is the case then when the so6p made the human form of the 10th tail (black zestu) then white zetsu had to have been made at the same time and then there would no need to have hashiramas dna when he could have just gotten the senju ancestors dna or the sages at that.

 

[KnowledgeGod]

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Not sure what i believe.

I like KnowledgeGods ideas, but there are a few things that are unclear to me ( trying to break it down myself...logic xd)

Something crazy right here.
Original black zetsu is the 10 tails in human form, gets hashiramas and madaras dna from there fight. (as tobi not cloned as madara yet)
Then uses the dna of hashirama to use the white zetsu ability to clone anyone. Then cloning madara and combining them. (Tobi being the 10 tail and black/white zetsu being the prototype sage. half hashirama dna and half madara)

In the end the 10 tail in a human form (tobi) is trying to make a new sage combining the senju and uchiha dna from close descendents. Thus making a "prototype sage" being able to summon himself again and then combining the final tail with the rest to make himself the juubi again.

Totally random and not thought out i'd rather not be quoted on this unless you want to give me some credit lol.

Congratulation I think you got it!!!!!! I think you got it...that's what I'm saying. Logic!