Saratobi hirenzen is better than uchiha madara

[hyugastyle]

Here are my reasons why, he was nickname the "professor" because he imitated over 1000 ninjustus. the sharingan makes it easier to copy but i have no knowledge of whether he did the same thing. also he beat the first hokage (which madara could not) and the second hokage.

your oppinions or facts you have on this?

 

[Punk Hazard]

hashi didnt have kyuubi and didnt fight to his fullest cuz he was being controlled by oro, so i still go with madara

 

[masterylucain]

kishi said 3rd hokage was the best hokage

 

[Punk Hazard]

kishi said 3rd hokage was the best hokage

when gimme a link

 

[-Vegeta-]

First of all it's Hiruzen Sarutobi and second of all who knows who would win. Madara has no feats, while Hiruzen has very little.

 

[hyugastyle]

Hiruzen would own him. oro controller their humanities not their movements. they fought to their potential and hiruzen is better. those two were better so madaraa would loose

 

[Klubargutan]

say that anyone is better than madara...and he will kill u...and that guy who is "better"
untouchability+amaterasu spam is enough for hiruzen

 

[Roy]

^Madara fanboy

Anyway, Hiruzen would probably win the fight, but it wouldn't be an easy one o.o

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Well this is funny because I think Hiruzen is overrated and Madara definitely is since we have never seen a single thing from him.

However I think Madara likely would win, just because fighting a sharingan user one on one is one of the worst possible things to do.

However I do laugh at that kid a few posts above me who thinks that all MS users have Susanoo and Amaterasu. Noobs these days xd

 

[Owarij]

the same madara that fought hashi , would ow n hiruzen.... wanna know why?

Ems + kyuubi, hashirama had his unique wood ability to control tailed beasts + he was a stron senju andcould take madara, hiruzen would get destroyed by 1 tailed beast bomb..

 

[Uchiha seeker]

madara would beat him. lol if madara has 9 tails hiruzen would get killed pretty fast

 

[Owarij]

Hiruzen would own him. oro controller their humanities not their movements. they fought to their potential and hiruzen is better. those two were better so madaraa would loose

no no and no, they did not fight to there potential, oro controlled them, so his fighting capabilities was what was shown , if they actually fought and could use their knowledge of combat, their jutsu combinations etc, it would be diff

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Hiruzen would own him. oro controller their humanities not their movements. they fought to their potential and hiruzen is better. those two were better so madaraa would loose

haha u funny if ur not senju or uchiha u wont be able to beat a ems user u should kno that..tsukiyomi would finish him off quick the only reason he won that fight is cuz if he died the show would hav went retarted..when the 1st hokage had him in the infinit darkness jutsu he or the 2nd hokage could have been killed him but all they did was hit him a couple of times they should hav just pulled a kunai an slit his throat an game over or a simple jutsu.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Nah, Madara seems way stronger. I mean when he came outta that coffin, Muu and the current Tsuchikage were about to urinate on themselves. There's a reason as to why he's the last coffin released. Madara's strength must be unfathomable.

I will say this much though...

Fire Style: Dragon Flame Bombs >>>>>>>> Fire Style: Fireball Jutsu/Dragon Flame Jutsu.

 

[devojoyti halder]

I think a young hiruzen can, since hiruzen was quite old and lacked stamina and chakra.
but it would be still hard.

 

[captainEO]

Well this is funny because I think Hiruzen is overrated and Madara definitely is since we have never seen a single thing from him.

However I think Madara likely would win, just because fighting a sharingan user one on one is one of the worst possible things to do.

However I do laugh at that kid a few posts above me who thinks that all MS users have Susanoo and Amaterasu. Noobs these days xd

Amaterasu + Tsukuyomi are base MS abilities, as well as Susanoo which is the rarer technique to awake

 

[NLee]

Here are my reasons why, he was nickname the "professor" because he imitated over 1000 ninjustus. the sharingan makes it easier to copy but i have no knowledge of whether he did the same thing. also he beat the first hokage (which madara could not) and the second hokage.

your oppinions or facts you have on this?

Correction, Hiruzen was known as the "Professor" because he knew every single technique in the village. It was never said he was able to do them. In fact, he couldn't do them. Techniques limited to their respective clans for example.

Hiruzen beat the 1st and 2nd Hokages but they were not fighting at full strength. If they were then we would have seen Hashirama use more Mokuton techniques, and Tobirama use his Time-Space Techniques.

The purpose of making Hiruzen fight Hashirama and Tobirama wasn't to overpower him. Orochimaru summoned them was more of a psychological assault. Nothing more. Orochimaru likely brought them back to weaken Hiruzen a little so he could go in for the kill himself. If I was Orochimaru, I'm sure I'd have wanted to kill my teacher with my own hands. Not through some puppets.

 

[Jupiter]

i smell some underestimating here...

even hashirama senju had difficult time defeating madara and you simply say hiruzen can beat him? rofl
atleast say it can be a tie but not defeat...

but no worries now that madara is resurrected we will hopefully see him in action and then madara AND hashirama won't be underestimated anymore

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

i smell some underestimating here...

even hashirama senju had difficult time defeating madara and you simply say hiruzen can beat him? rofl
atleast say it can be a tie but not defeat...

but no worries now that madara is resurrected we will hopefully see him in action and then madara AND hashirama won't be underestimated anymore

Hashirama isn't underestimated anywhere on this site, in fact I think he is overestimated.

Most kids on here seem to think that Hashirama can beat Nagato, which is just insane.

 

[hyugastyle]

no no and no, they did not fight to there potential, oro controlled them, so his fighting capabilities was what was shown , if they actually fought and could use their knowledge of combat, their jutsu combinations etc, it would be diff

their fighting capabilities were the same, he just controlled their humanity not their justus:flaw: