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Who is the man behind the mask


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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

why not? that means there will always be a main villain in naruto= thus creating more naruto episodes
regardless of it being madara, the masked man is STILL a main villain
i just have a feeling we are going to get an itachi twist for some reason :confused:
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Kisame never knew the original Madara for starters nor the way he looked phisically, there is not much info about Tobi back then when he was controlling the Mizukage, could of showed Kisame the same face back then telling he was Madara Uchiha, the only things we currently know are that he has Sharingan, S/T jutsu, met Danzo in the Uchiha Massacre, claims to have given( helped in mastering) Nagato the Rin'negan, has Hashirama DNA, can use Izanagi, gave up one Sharingan eye for Rin'negan, parts of his body are similar to Zetsu, was afraid of Itachi, met Itachi just before the massacre, likes to change the storys(lies a lot), is using Sasuke, has a big secret probably related to his real identity(Kabuto coffin), recognizes some Sharingan abilities to be quite unique( he gave the paths a sharingan eye), knows the secrets of the Sharingan but never showed a MS ability, was Itachi's mentor at some point, wants to take over the world with Mugen Tsukuyomi.
Madara was a legend and theres that giant stone statue of him. Im sure Kisame knew how Madara looked like and he recognized the masked man as him
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

who said tobi wasn't madara in the first place???It was so obvious.









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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

When Tobi was controlling Mizukage Yagura, he revealed his face to Kisame.
Later he did the same and Kisame called him Madara Uchiha.

So what of this ?
-Its indeed Madara
-When Kisame did recognize the man behind the mask as Uchiha Madara, his face must not be that different from when he was still young if its recognizable.

So it probably does not look "that" old like those fan made images.
I actually believe that Madara still look the same from time he was "defeated" by Hashirama ... he posses 1st DNA in his own body, Tsunade stated Madara is immortal due to that thus he is no longer aging.
Nuff said!
kisame does not kno wat madara looks like thats y be4 they showed us his face kisame woke up an broke the genjutsu if he already told every1 he is madara then y not show us his face. the guy is just saying he is madara i feel he is lying to everybody in his group thats y zetsu keeps calling him tobi when ever they meet zetsu never says madara.
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

I don't feel like looking but didn't kisame call him mizukage at first and then called him madara much later?he already told pain he was madara so kisame calling him madara later isn't the ULTIMATE proof that he is indeed madara,he could have just told him that
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Madara was a legend and theres that giant stone statue of him. Im sure Kisame knew how Madara looked like and he recognized the masked man as him
A legend 60 years older than him, that should be dead, and the statue doesnt show any details of his face. To all who are here i seriously recommend to go look Pungzeyes(spell?) theory about Tobi's Identity, while i dont completely agree with it, its one of the most precise elaborated theorys in this site about this subject in particular. It shows a lot of little hints Kishimoto hides in the manga.
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

kisame does not kno wat madara looks like thats y be4 they showed us his face kisame woke up an broke the genjutsu the guy is just saying he is madara i feel he is lying to everybody in his group thats y zetsu keeps calling him tobi when ever they meet zetsu never says madara.
Read above ... everyone is aware how Madara looked like since his giant statue is smilin' there
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

A legend 60 years older than him, that should be dead, and the statue doesnt show any details of his face. To all who are here i seriously recommend to go look Pungzeyes(spell?) theory about Tobi's Identity, while i dont completely agree with it, its one of the most precise elaborated theorys in this site about this subject in particular. It shows a lot of little hints Kishimoto hides in the manga.
link me to that please
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Read above ... everyone is aware how Madara looked like since his giant statue is smilin' there
like i said zetsu keeps calling him tobi an not madara.an when they went bac in kisame time he first saw madara y not show us his face sence we already kno how he looks.they did not do that becuz the 1 behind the mask is not madara..thats just my opinion
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara



It has another part inside the thread with a link.
Cant be Kagami ... they were in the same team with Danzo ... Danzo would know his friend and he refered to Tobi as Madara Uchiha
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Tobi never showed Danzo his face, Danzo just believed what Tobi said in the summit.
Even if not sensor, Im sure Danzo would notice his friend's chakra and voice.

Also Itachi refered to Tobi as Madara every time and he scripted Sasuke's Amaterasu to strike upon seeing Madara Uchiha's face ... theres your plothole my friend ... in other words, Tobi = Madara Uchiha
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Even if not sensor, Im sure Danzo would notice his friend's chakra and voice.

Also Itachi refered to Tobi as Madara every time and he scripted Sasuke's Amaterasu to strike upon seeing Madara Uchiha's face ... theres your plothole my friend ... in other words, Tobi = Madara Uchiha
He set it up to strike Madara's Sharingan or Tobi's, think about it in this series eye replacement is like a common procedure, but to the point i said i dont agree completely, just linked you to that theory to explain to you that nothing is certain when it come to Tobi's identity yet.
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

He set it up to strike Madara's Sharingan or Tobi's, think about it in this series eye replacement is like a common procedure, but to the point i said i dont agree completely, just linked you to that theory to explain to you that nothing is certain when it come to Tobi's identity yet.
Madara's sharingan was activated all the time in their conversation ... in other words, their eyes linked. The seal activated upon seeing his face not eyes.
Just accept that Tobi is Madara ... why its so hard my friend ? What does not add up ?
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

i also do think tobi is madara and if its not it would be a little off cos like the thing with kisame recognizing him as madara is sort of reliable cos if u think about it madara is the most infamous ninja in the world probably a large population. And other villages have detailed info of ninjas that are incredibly strong and especially makes sense that legendary ones like madara would be included. i just feel its unlikely that ppl with a decent amount of info on other villages and rather informative like kisame would just make a random assumptions and just believe someone is madara. but then again i can be wrong
 

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Re: The Ultimate proof that Tobi is indeed Madara

Madara's sharingan was activated all the time in their conversation ... in other words, their eyes linked. The seal activated upon seeing his face not eyes.
Just accept that Tobi is Madara ... why its so hard my friend ? What does not add up ?
You didnt get what i said at all, so what if their eyes linked? Tobi told Sasuke Itachi set Amaterasu to activate when he showed him his SHaringan, Tobi could easily have Madara's eyes as an example, and secondly please answer this, the only "person" that really knows Tobi's face besides dead Kisame is Zetsu, why he keeps calling him Tobi? and i want to know if you have a theory about the sixth coffin then.
 
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