[Theory] Rinnegan's secret TRUTH (weak)

[MuDfAcToRy25]

Jiraiya stated the Rinnegan is the greatest of the doujutsu and everyone takes it as gospel truth. HOWEVER, we have all been FORGETTING something VERY IMPORTANT!!! I JUST came to this realization a few moments ago and CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH THIS SOONER!!!

The ONLY person to possess the rinnegan besides Nagato was the SO6P. THAT IS WHY IT'S HERALDED AS THE GREATEST DOUJUTSU!!! LOOK AT EVERYTHING SO6P DID WITH IT!!! AAAAALL ITS ABILITIES!!!

HERE'S WHAT WE ALL FORGET......ESPECIALLY IN THE ITACHI V. NAGATO AND SHARINGAN V. RINNEGAN THREADS.

JUST LIKE IZANAGI REQUIRES 2 OF THE 6 PATHS..... IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL OF THE RINNEGAN'S POWER, YOU NEED ALL 6 PATHS! THAT'S WHY MADARA IS COLLECTING THEM!!!

So if you need all 6 paths BEFORE you can use all of it's abilities (like using Izanagi well enough to NOT LOSE YOUR EYESIGHT and being able to fuse the biju and CONTROL the Jubi) that means THE RINNEGAN WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ACTION IS ACTUALLY A WEAKENED VERSION OF IT SINCE THE WIELDER WASN'T EVEN PART OF ONE OF THE TWO MAIN BLOODLINES OF THE RIKUDOU SENIN!!! *EDIT* I know Uzumaki's are RELATED to Senju's but i'm saying Nagato is not DIRECTLY part of either two main bloodlines. He's only a relative of Senju which isn't quite the same or Madara would have taken DNA from an Uzumaki instead of nearly dying to get Senju Hashirama's DNA.

That COULD also explain little things that bothered me about rinnegan like "if its the greatest, how come Naruto's smoke bombs could fool its vision when byakugan AND sharingan can see through things like that??!?" WITH MADARA HAVING 3 OF THE 6 PATHS HE MAY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO NEW ABILITIES OF THE RINNEGAN OR HAVE IMPROVED OCCULAR ACCUITY! OR THE TECHS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MAY HAVE THEIR POWER AMPLIFIED!!!

The bottom line point i want to make though is this...... WHEN JIRAIYA SAID RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST OF THE DOUJUTSU...... HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE RINNEGAN THAT THE SO6P HAD...... NAGATO DIDN'T POSSESS THE 6 PATHS OF THE SAGE SO HIS RINNEGAN WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE GREATEST TOO...... JUST LIKE GIVING A SHARINGAN TO SOMEONE WITH LOW CHAKRA WHO CAN NEVER AWAKEN MANGEKYO!!!! THE RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST TO EVER EXIST IN THE HANDS OF THE SO6P!

 

[Akatsuki leader]

Jiraiya stated the Rinnegan is the greatest of the doujutsu and everyone takes it as gospel truth. HOWEVER, we have all been FORGETTING something VERY IMPORTANT!!! I JUST came to this realization a few moments ago and CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH THIS SOONER!!!

The ONLY person to possess the rinnegan besides Nagato was the SO6P. THAT IS WHY IT'S HERALDED AS THE GREATEST DOUJUTSU!!! LOOK AT EVERYTHING SO6P DID WITH IT!!! AAAAALL ITS ABILITIES!!!

HERE'S WHAT WE ALL FORGET......ESPECIALLY IN THE ITACHI V. NAGATO AND SHARINGAN V. RINNEGAN THREADS.

JUST LIKE IZANAGI REQUIRES 2 OF THE 6 PATHS..... IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL OF THE RINNEGAN'S POWER, YOU NEED ALL 6 PATHS! THAT'S WHY MADARA IS COLLECTING THEM!!!

So if you need all 6 paths BEFORE you can use all of it's abilities (like using Izanagi well enough to NOT LOSE YOUR EYESIGHT and being able to fuse the biju and CONTROL the Jubi) that means THE RINNEGAN WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ACTION IS ACTUALLY A WEAKENED VERSION OF IT SINCE THE WIELDER WASN'T EVEN PART OF ONE OF THE TWO MAIN BLOODLINES OF THE RIKUDOU SENIN!!!

That COULD also explain little things that bothered me about rinnegan like "if its the greatest, how come Naruto's smoke bombs could fool its vision when byakugan AND sharingan can see through things like that??!?" WITH MADARA HAVING 3 OF THE 6 PATHS HE MAY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO NEW ABILITIES OF THE RINNEGAN OR HAVE IMPROVED OCCULAR ACCUITY! OR THE TECHS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MAY HAVE THEIR POWER AMPLIFIED!!!

The bottom line point i want to make though is this...... WHEN JIRAIYA SAID RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST OF THE DOUJUTSU...... HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE RINNEGAN THAT THE SO6P HAD...... NAGATO DIDN'T POSSESS THE 6 PATHS OF THE SAGE SO HIS RINNEGAN WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE GREATEST TOO...... JUST LIKE GIVING A SHARINGAN TO SOMEONE WITH LOW CHAKRA WHO CAN NEVER AWAKEN MANGEKYO!!!! THE RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST TO EVER EXIST IN THE HANDS OF THE SO6P!

ok.. just 1 question do you have a life!? O_O

 

[Mizukata]

oh!i thought you wore gonna say the sharingan tops rinnegan or itachi tops nagato.so basicly SO6P rinnegan was better?

 

[Venus]

Jiraiya stated the Rinnegan is the greatest of the doujutsu and everyone takes it as gospel truth. HOWEVER, we have all been FORGETTING something VERY IMPORTANT!!! I JUST came to this realization a few moments ago and CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH THIS SOONER!!!

The ONLY person to possess the rinnegan besides Nagato was the SO6P. THAT IS WHY IT'S HERALDED AS THE GREATEST DOUJUTSU!!! LOOK AT EVERYTHING SO6P DID WITH IT!!! AAAAALL ITS ABILITIES!!!

HERE'S WHAT WE ALL FORGET......ESPECIALLY IN THE ITACHI V. NAGATO AND SHARINGAN V. RINNEGAN THREADS.

JUST LIKE IZANAGI REQUIRES 2 OF THE 6 PATHS..... IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL OF THE RINNEGAN'S POWER, YOU NEED ALL 6 PATHS! THAT'S WHY MADARA IS COLLECTING THEM!!!

So if you need all 6 paths BEFORE you can use all of it's abilities (like using Izanagi well enough to NOT LOSE YOUR EYESIGHT and being able to fuse the biju and CONTROL the Jubi) that means THE RINNEGAN WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ACTION IS ACTUALLY A WEAKENED VERSION OF IT SINCE THE WIELDER WASN'T EVEN PART OF ONE OF THE TWO MAIN BLOODLINES OF THE RIKUDOU SENIN!!!

That COULD also explain little things that bothered me about rinnegan like "if its the greatest, how come Naruto's smoke bombs could fool its vision when byakugan AND sharingan can see through things like that??!?" WITH MADARA HAVING 3 OF THE 6 PATHS HE MAY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO NEW ABILITIES OF THE RINNEGAN OR HAVE IMPROVED OCCULAR ACCUITY! OR THE TECHS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MAY HAVE THEIR POWER AMPLIFIED!!!

The bottom line point i want to make though is this...... WHEN JIRAIYA SAID RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST OF THE DOUJUTSU...... HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE RINNEGAN THAT THE SO6P HAD...... NAGATO DIDN'T POSSESS THE 6 PATHS OF THE SAGE SO HIS RINNEGAN WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE GREATEST TOO...... JUST LIKE GIVING A SHARINGAN TO SOMEONE WITH LOW CHAKRA WHO CAN NEVER AWAKEN MANGEKYO!!!! THE RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST TO EVER EXIST IN THE HANDS OF THE SO6P!

Naruto is a descendant of a path, if its from Minato's blood, then i am wrong about this, but if it was through Kushina's blood, then it may been through all Uzumaki. Nagato Uzumaki, he could have been on of the paths through the same way as Naruto.

That's just a guess on my behalf, but your stuff makes some sense to me.

 

[Heavens Blade]

Naruto is a descendant of a path, if its from Minato's blood, then i am wrong about this, but if it was through Kushina's blood, then it may been through all Uzumaki. Nagato Uzumaki, he could have been on of the paths through the same way as Naruto.

That's just a guess on my behalf, but your stuff makes some sense to me.

the uzumaki are brothers to the senju so it is believed that it is one of the 6 paths

 

[+Kyon+]

What do u want 2 say? Nagato have only 8% power of so6p.

 

[Venus]

the uzumaki are brothers to the senju so it is believed that it is one of the 6 paths

0_0 Then this guy was wrong saying that Nagato was not a path.

 

[David1996]

Yeah Yeah, Itachi is stronger than Nagato And The Sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan. Thank you fan boy

 

[psukkar]

Jiraiya stated the Rinnegan is the greatest of the doujutsu and everyone takes it as gospel truth. HOWEVER, we have all been FORGETTING something VERY IMPORTANT!!! I JUST came to this realization a few moments ago and CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I DIDN'T CATCH THIS SOONER!!!

The ONLY person to possess the rinnegan besides Nagato was the SO6P. THAT IS WHY IT'S HERALDED AS THE GREATEST DOUJUTSU!!! LOOK AT EVERYTHING SO6P DID WITH IT!!! AAAAALL ITS ABILITIES!!!

HERE'S WHAT WE ALL FORGET......ESPECIALLY IN THE ITACHI V. NAGATO AND SHARINGAN V. RINNEGAN THREADS.

JUST LIKE IZANAGI REQUIRES 2 OF THE 6 PATHS..... IN ORDER TO ACCESS ALL OF THE RINNEGAN'S POWER, YOU NEED ALL 6 PATHS! THAT'S WHY MADARA IS COLLECTING THEM!!!

So if you need all 6 paths BEFORE you can use all of it's abilities (like using Izanagi well enough to NOT LOSE YOUR EYESIGHT and being able to fuse the biju and CONTROL the Jubi) that means THE RINNEGAN WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN ACTION IS ACTUALLY A WEAKENED VERSION OF IT SINCE THE WIELDER WASN'T EVEN PART OF ONE OF THE TWO MAIN BLOODLINES OF THE RIKUDOU SENIN!!!

That COULD also explain little things that bothered me about rinnegan like "if its the greatest, how come Naruto's smoke bombs could fool its vision when byakugan AND sharingan can see through things like that??!?" WITH MADARA HAVING 3 OF THE 6 PATHS HE MAY ALREADY HAVE ACCESS TO NEW ABILITIES OF THE RINNEGAN OR HAVE IMPROVED OCCULAR ACCUITY! OR THE TECHS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN MAY HAVE THEIR POWER AMPLIFIED!!!

The bottom line point i want to make though is this...... WHEN JIRAIYA SAID RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST OF THE DOUJUTSU...... HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE RINNEGAN THAT THE SO6P HAD...... NAGATO DIDN'T POSSESS THE 6 PATHS OF THE SAGE SO HIS RINNEGAN WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE GREATEST TOO...... JUST LIKE GIVING A SHARINGAN TO SOMEONE WITH LOW CHAKRA WHO CAN NEVER AWAKEN MANGEKYO!!!! THE RINNEGAN WAS THE GREATEST TO EVER EXIST IN THE HANDS OF THE SO6P!

couple of things,

1) there are no 6 indivdual paths, this was mistranslation and we kniow what each of the 6 paths abilties are. So plz no more mention of this.

2) rinnegan owns sharingan, theres a big reason why the gods blessed so6p to take on the juubi. Pretty obvious dude.

3) the rinnegans no mater who has it has the same skills. All depends on the chakra resereves. ie compareing nagato to the so6p

4)I hope I have inlightened you so stop such misinformed threads in the future.

 

[Honord Sage]

The First Son also had the Rinnegan, it was His descendants that became the Uchiha it was His descendants that developed the Sharigan. As Madara stated the Uchiha bloodline had thin out over time. This indicated that the Rinnegan over time had become the Sharigan because of this the original powers of the Rinnegan evolve to the powers of the Sharigan Substituting one set of powers for a noter over time.

 

[Venus]

The First Son also had the Rinnegan, it was His descendants that became the Uchiha it was His descendants that developed the Sharigan. As Madara stated the Uchiha bloodline had thin out over time. This indicated that the Rinnegan over time had become the Sharigan because of this the original powers of the Rinnegan evolve to the powers of the Sharigan Substituting one set of powers for a noter over time.

Can you show me where you found out his son had Rinnegan? If not then no mate, no.

 

[Avani]

couple of things,

1) there are no 6 indivdual paths, this was mistranslation and we kniow what each of the 6 paths abilties are. So plz no more mention of this.

2) rinnegan owns sharingan, theres a big reason why the gods blessed so6p to take on the juubi. Pretty obvious dude.

3) the rinnegans no mater who has it has the same skills. All depends on the chakra resereves. ie compareing nagato to the so6p

4)I hope I have inlightened you so stop such misinformed threads in the future.

This.
+ rep for Psukkar.
Check out the translation at another site. this has been made clear too many sites at NB among different threads. If only newbes would use search button sometimes..

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

couple of things,

1) there are no 6 indivdual paths, this was mistranslation and we kniow what each of the 6 paths abilties are. So plz no more mention of this.

2) rinnegan owns sharingan, theres a big reason why the gods blessed so6p to take on the juubi. Pretty obvious dude.

3) the rinnegans no mater who has it has the same skills. All depends on the chakra resereves. ie compareing nagato to the so6p

4)I hope I have inlightened you so stop such misinformed threads in the future.

1) I'll have to look into it as i have never heard of this but it doesn't change the overall point if you read number 3 you'll see. But the 6 paths of pain are different from the sage of the six paths. As Nagato being the "7th path of pain" would prove. The SO6P wasn't the SO7P.........

2) Yes rinnegan DOES own sharingan...... When the SO6P is using it. Thats what this thread was ABOUT dude. Learn to read.

3) You say the rinnegan has the same skills no matter who is using it? THEN HOW COME THE SO6P COULD USE IZANAGI??? NAGATO COULDN'T. IN FACT ONLY SHARINGAN USERS CAN RIGHT NOW! SO OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE MISTAKEN SINCE THE MANGA STATES THAT THE SO6P USED IZANAGI TO CREATE THE BIJU AND THE WHOLE OF THE NINJA WORLD AND HE HAD THE RINNEGAN!!!

4) I hope YOU have been Enlightened (correct spelling makes you seem smarter!) to KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG SIR!!!:flaw:

 

[psukkar]

1) I'll have to look into it as i have never heard of this but it doesn't change the overall point if you read number 3 you'll see. But the 6 paths of pain are different from the sage of the six paths. As Nagato being the "7th path of pain" would prove. The SO6P wasn't the SO7P.........

2) Yes rinnegan DOES own sharingan...... When the SO6P is using it. Thats what this thread was ABOUT dude. Learn to read.

3) You say the rinnegan has the same skills no matter who is using it? THEN HOW COME THE SO6P COULD USE IZANAGI??? NAGATO COULDN'T. IN FACT ONLY SHARINGAN USERS CAN RIGHT NOW! SO OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE MISTAKEN SINCE THE MANGA STATES THAT THE SO6P USED IZANAGI TO CREATE THE BIJU AND THE WHOLE OF THE NINJA WORLD AND HE HAD THE RINNEGAN!!!

4) I hope YOU have been Enlightened (correct spelling makes you seem smarter!) to KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG SIR!!!:flaw:

lol u got me there, ill give that one lol. It was a bad time for spelling error. Yr alright dude.

iznagi is unque jutsu from the so6p paths by combining both is bloodline limitsm this has nothing do to with the rinnegan. At best the rinnegan helped the sage develope the tech.

 

[Honord Sage]

Can you show me where you found out his son had Rinnegan? If not then no mate, no.

Stated in Manga the First Son had His Fathers Eyes, The Second Son had His Fathers Body. Fathers eyes is the power of the eyes, Fathers body is the power of the fathers body jutsu. Madara states in Manga that the Uchiha blood had thin out over time. Why do you think Madara has gotten the First Hokage DNA? To try to duplicated the powers of the SO6P by reverse engineering back to when their were no Uchiha nor Senju back to SO6P united blood line.

 

[Avani]

1) I'll have to look into it as i have never heard of this but it doesn't change the overall point if you read number 3 you'll see. But the 6 paths of pain are different from the sage of the six paths. As Nagato being the "7th path of pain" would prove. The SO6P wasn't the SO7P.........

2) Yes rinnegan DOES own sharingan...... When the SO6P is using it. Thats what this thread was ABOUT dude. Learn to read.

3) You say the rinnegan has the same skills no matter who is using it? THEN HOW COME THE SO6P COULD USE IZANAGI??? NAGATO COULDN'T. IN FACT ONLY SHARINGAN USERS CAN RIGHT NOW! SO OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE MISTAKEN SINCE THE MANGA STATES THAT THE SO6P USED IZANAGI TO CREATE THE BIJU AND THE WHOLE OF THE NINJA WORLD AND HE HAD THE RINNEGAN!!!

4) I hope YOU have been Enlightened (correct spelling makes you seem smarter!) to KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT WHEN YOU ARE WRONG SIR!!!:flaw:

Wrong.

You are confused about the Path word to start with and there are no individual clans or people called path.

The paths are from Buddhist philosophy and literal translation has caused much confusion among the people who aren't familier with the concept. Same goes for the translation. Unfortunately the scantalations are many times not very accurate and cause confusion as well so you may have to check more than one copy.

Your third point became redundant the moment the first was canclled out.. Izanagi is not directally related with rinnegan but the bloodline of So6P. Senjus and Uchihas are heirs of the sage.

Making a point to comment on grammar in between a sincere discussion is not impressive either- it's seen as tactic used by the party who is losing the debate already.

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

lol u got me there, ill give that one lol. It was a bad time for spelling error. Yr alright dude.

iznagi is unque jutsu from the so6p paths by combining both is bloodline limitsm this has nothing do to with the rinnegan. At best the rinnegan helped the sage develope the tech.

Well Izanagi is said to be a visual jutsu so it would HAVE to have come from the rinnegan originally meaning that the rinnegan CAN be capable of more than we've seen. I'm not saying it IS (even though it is since SO6P used Izanagi with it) but it's very possible!

 

[Tyrelh]

I dont get it. So there is more paths than those nagato used? So there is 12 paths or?

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

Wrong.

You are confused about the Path word to start with and there are no individual clans or people called path.

The paths are from Buddhist philosophy and literal translation has caused much confusion among the people who aren't familier with the concept. Same goes for the translation. Unfortunately the scantalations are many times not very accurate and cause confusion as well so you may have to check more than one copy.

Your third point became redundant the moment the first was canclled out.. Izanagi is not directally related with rinnegan but the bloodline of So6P. Senjus and Uchihas are heirs of the sage.

Making a point to comment on grammar in between a sincere discussion is not impressive either- it's seen as tactic used by the party who is losing the debate already.

I am actually familiar with the paths in philosophy. I have studied, in depth, many cultures and religions. I am also studying Japanese and am going to look at the raw and trust my own translation as the other translation is MUCH LESS THAN CONVINCING ALSO.

Madara says only he can be the 2nd SO6P and then says that Nagato was the 3rd?!? Well since Madara HASN'T BECOME THE 2ND SO6P YET, CALLING NAGATO THE 3RD IS EITHER A MAJOR ERROR IN THE COMMON SENSE AND REASONING DEPT OR ANOTHER UNTRUSTWORTHY TRANSLATION.

And as far as Izanagi goes you bring up a good point. Nagato didn't have Uchiha blood. Even if uzumakis are close enough to senju the rinnegan might not give bloodline access to SO6p.

The grammar correction was for comedic effect. If you read his next post you'll see HE got it. Not all discussions have to be dull and dramatized.......

 

[Avani]

I dont get it. So there is more paths than those nagato used? So there is 12 paths or?

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There are no separate 6-7 paths. Nagato named his abilities according to buddist philosophy.. that's all.

I am actually familiar with the paths in philosophy. I have studied, in depth, many cultures and religions. I am also studying Japanese and am going to look at the raw and trust my own translation as the other translation is MUCH LESS THAN CONVINCING ALSO.

Madara says only he can be the 2nd SO6P and then says that Nagato was the 3rd?!? Well since Madara HASN'T BECOME THE 2ND SO6P YET, CALLING NAGATO THE 3RD IS EITHER A MAJOR ERROR IN THE COMMON SENSE AND REASONING DEPT OR ANOTHER UNTRUSTWORTHY TRANSLATION.

And as far as Izanagi goes you bring up a good point. Nagato didn't have Uchiha blood. Even if uzumakis are close enough to senju the rinnegan might not give bloodline access to SO6p.

The grammar correction was for comedic effect. If you read his next post you'll see HE got it. Not all discussions have to be dull and dramatized.......

Ok.. then let me know what you version of translation is..