Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

[MasterofSenjutsu]

I've just got back on the base and I've noticed alot of Itachi/Nagato vs threads.. such as raikage's, minato ect.. I just have to let everyone know.. as Kabuto IS the USER of the Impure World Resurrection I think he know what he's talkin bout.. plus he worked under a genius known as orochimaru.. so i htink he knows alot bout previous shinobi. Kabuto specifacilly stated THAT both ITACHI and NAGATO are his two STRONGEST summoning other then the last coffin (meaning he HAS no other summoning stronger then those two).. (Put the last coffin to the side for now) Itachi and Nagato ARE his two best strongest shinobi which is why he wanted to use those two to capture the 8 and 9 tails at the same time (which would have worked mind you if it weren't for Itachi's geniusness) So everyone please stop makin new threads with itach vs raikage or nagato vs anyone.. because THEY cant be COMPARED to.. If the 3rd raikage was stronger he would have used him instead of them to try and capture 8 or 9 tails.. but he didnt bcuz bee and naruto would have won together.. No other shinobi not even Madara could stand up against
(stated by Madara himself) meaning that Itachi is overall stronger than every previous kage alongside nagato "since the 1st was the strongest hokage"..(and madara admits he NEVER lost to the 1st hokage.. He merely pretended to los
to gain his DNA in order to perform the ability Izanagi stated here.

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so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara.. simple fact

is he wasnt Madara wanted his DNA to perform the Izanagi

These are the two prodigies of the shippuden series.. Itachi was the Uchiha Pride.. and ELITE clan feared by all.. who all praised ONE man "Itachi"..

Nagato has rinnegon nuff said.. The strongest Dojutsu that the sharigan cant even beat..

So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara..

Itachi can meaning Itachi is stronger then the 1st and also the rest of the bunch and nagato is up there with Itachi so NO MORE.. Itachi and Nagato are the strongest shinobi to walk the world next to the SO6P himself and now MADARA'S current form.. Since he has EMS, Izanagi, Time-Space, Rineggon and all same abilities as young complete Nagato..
Comment please bcuz people need to realize that itachi nor Nagato cant be compared to not even to JMAN, ORO, Minato none of them are a match for either one of these two...
Also, I kno peeps might bring up the battle between Itachi/Kisame vs JMAN well Itachi wanted to protect Konoha so why would he force or let anyone know he can defeat him? Just doesnt makes sense... Itachi's secret was only known by the 3rd, Danzo and the two elders not even JMAN knew.. so JMAN wouldnt even understand why Itachi was the way he was..

Honestly, this is the most sensible thing I have ever heard you say. The only thing I DO disagree with is that Madara is stronger than 1st Hokage. If he REALLY wanted the DNA of the 1st Hokage, he could have done so without facing him. He's sneaky enuff to find a way. I think Madara only says that cuz people picked Senju over him and I think sbody sounds bitter. I think that the 1st Hokage was just a littlestronger than him.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Someone please tell me where it specifically said he lost to the 1st on purpose, because I didn't see that stated anywhere. All it said was that he fought the battle to obtain his DNA, didn't say he lost on purpose. Why would he have to loose to obtain his DNA?? He could have won and taken his whole damn body, enough DNA to do whatever he wanted 100 times over. Please people, especially @shawnd, stop giving excuses for why Madara lost to Hashirama, truth is, is that he was inferior, if he could have won, he would have, end of story.

And I still think Negato and Itachi CAN be compared, but I won't go in to that.

 

[shk1020]

Someone please tell me where it specifically said he lost to the 1st on purpose, because I didn't see that stated anywhere. All it said was that he fought the battle to obtain his DNA, didn't say he lost on purpose. Why would he have to loose to obtain his DNA?? He could have won and taken his whole damn body, enough DNA to do whatever he wanted 100 times over. Please people, especially @shawnd, stop giving excuses for why Madara lost to Hashirama, truth is, is that he was inferior, if he could have won, he would have, end of story.

And I still think Negato and Itachi CAN be compared, but I won't go in to that.

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yea, i kinda agree there too. if madara wouldve won the fight against the first hokage to begin with, he wouldnt need to do most of the things he did afterwards (such as getting the the kyuubi to attack konoha as revenge, and so on...).

 

[vandell]

there is no way that itachi and nagato are the strongest chacter in naruto, the dude that calls himself madara is the strongest character, the man know alot about the pass, like shit you had to be there to know about, itachi and nagato work for him, and of course they were scare of him, they never attack him and neither one like him, everybody else they didn't like they killed them, hell itachi knew he might die messing with madara and he did (lol) nagato really didn't know what to do with madara so he let naruto do the rest of the hard work, thanks pain, but hell naw nagato can not beat itachi, stop playing, yes pain aka nagato is third with itachi been second, madara is first stop playing you people can't be reading the same manga as i'am and think this. naruto will be number one once its all said and done we know this but right now nagato is four with sasuke new eyes so stop the nagato love for real, hell I think kabuto will beat sasuke or madara, i bet anything he will so that makes him aleast number two, skip that kabuto would beat pain and itachi together so he's number two for real, a health pain or health itachi could not stand up to the Summoning: Impure World Resurrection they both would just run out of chakra soon or later and die, thats the facts, so madara is one,kabuto is two, itachi is three, sasuke with his new eyes is four, nagato is fifth,naruto is six at the current moment' he will be number one at the end of course we all know that!

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[Kyuubikiller]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

yea, i kinda agree there too. if madara wouldve won the fight against the first hokage to begin with, he wouldnt need to do most of the things he did afterwards (such as getting the the kyuubi to attack konoha as revenge, and so on...).

Exactly, he may have had to make plan B,C,D,E,F and G, but he sure as hell didn't get his ass handed to him so bad that he's a former shell of himself on purpose.

 

[chickmagnet]

i agree with you itachi vs pain is draw i also think minato is on the same level as those two. ITS LIKE INTELLIGENCE(ITACHI) STRENGTH(NAGATO) SPEED(MINATO)Itachi and nagato were truly on another level as kabuto said twice about itachi. you remember when itachi or nagato said we can almost do anything or something about their eyes combination or somtin?
but hopley other people will also understand especially the fanboys
and seriously people that are thinking jiraiya is stronger because itachi said himself in the manga should slap himself twice

lol minato has both speed and his intelligence is still unsurpassed

 

[Inspector]

I agree with you on vs threads its just stupid as most of the time its useless when they put any dead person in it as example the 4th how can you compare him with itachi or nagato the 4th is dead so he didnt do any training in 16y you know how much he couldv become stronger just saying because he was a genius to like itachi so i hate people who are trying to compare present people to dead its just to stupid if you think bout it

 

[ReLax -]

Someone please tell me where it specifically said he lost to the 1st on purpose, because I didn't see that stated anywhere. All it said was that he fought the battle to obtain his DNA, didn't say he lost on purpose. Why would he have to loose to obtain his DNA?? He could have won and taken his whole damn body, enough DNA to do whatever he wanted 100 times over. Please people, especially @shawnd, stop giving excuses for why Madara lost to Hashirama, truth is, is that he was inferior, if he could have won, he would have, end of story.

And I still think Negato and Itachi CAN be compared, but I won't go in to that.

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There.

I think he fought for the access of Hashirama DNA but it wasn't easy, so than he faked his death and later when Hashirama died or whatever the story behind that is, he took his body (as we seen Tobi with Hashirama body).

 

[itachiamaterasu]

agreed, except the 4th hokage part.. that can be questionable. 4th hokage is a genius in battle, stopped madara and 9 tails despite dying, he died for a purpose. but everything else i agree, we have still yet to see the EMS sauske and KM naruto

 

[Chaotic Blades]

Because a character says another character is stronger/faster/better than him or any character makes it true? I never get that about NB. Why cant a character just pay respect to another? If naruto said Kiba could beat him any day of the week does that mean its true? Nonetheless, I agree with your thread.

 

[The Uchiha Master]

Wow lol waste of thread.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

lol........... normally id comment and shut this whole thread down with actual proof from the manga.. but.... it is pointless to dispute with ppl like you.

take it how you want to. im out!

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Ha! I remember seeing your "proof",which failed though

 

[dareak]

Someone please tell me where it specifically said he lost to the 1st on purpose, because I didn't see that stated anywhere. All it said was that he fought the battle to obtain his DNA, didn't say he lost on purpose. Why would he have to loose to obtain his DNA?? He could have won and taken his whole damn body, enough DNA to do whatever he wanted 100 times over. Please people, especially @shawnd, stop giving excuses for why Madara lost to Hashirama, truth is, is that he was inferior, if he could have won, he would have, end of story.

And I still think Negato and Itachi CAN be compared, but I won't go in to that.

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yea, i kinda agree there too. if madara wouldve won the fight against the first hokage to begin with, he wouldnt need to do most of the things he did afterwards (such as getting the the kyuubi to attack konoha as revenge, and so on...).

Exactly, he may have had to make plan B,C,D,E,F and G, but he sure as hell didn't get his ass handed to him so bad that he's a former shell of himself on purpose.

Guys Madara already explained that if he won, pretty much all the villages (who all had control of tailed beasts at that time) would have went after him...It was easier for him to lose and fade into history.

If you want, find the chapter, because I am not wasting my time looking.

 

[Nin]

Hm?

 

[Tendo Pain]

Stop posting on this thread all your doing is encouraging more of them. He's posted tons of threads like this that have no point. There is tons of threads already made that compare Nagato and Itachi. This is not a vs. thread section if you want to post vs. threads go to the discussion section not manga.

 

[|KirA|]

bla, bla, blah blah bla

 

[Ghostofthewind]

just read the first post. The fourth would have defeated the 1st and the 3rd was stronger than the first as well. I think everyone jumps on the 1st's bandwagon because he beat Madara when Madara wasn't amazing. Also, they fail to remember that the 4th defeated a much stronger Madara (if that was actually Madara).

The third was nicknamed the God of Ninja and was the strongest of his time and surpassed the previous two, which was stated early in the series. However the 3rd wanted no part of the 4th when Oro tried to summon the forth. Then the 3rd beat the other two at the same time along with Oro even though the 3rd was older than all of them by a wide margin!

So 3rd<4th< 1st &2nd ( I don't know who is better between the 1st and 2nd)

However, 4th's jutsu < 3rd, 1st & 2nd. RTG, rasengan, body flicker, etc. The 4th simply had the moves that couldn't be beaten.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

Guys Madara already explained that if he won, pretty much all the villages (who all had control of tailed beasts at that time) would have went after him...It was easier for him to lose and fade into history.

If you want, find the chapter, because I am not wasting my time looking.

If you can't reference it then your evidence is thrown out. I believe Madara said he lost but he believed it was for the best because Madara then set his sights on higher goals.

 

[Shawnd]

First of all just because Madara said he only fought the first to get his DNA doesnt mean he didnt get owned lol. As he himself said that fight damaged him so much that he became a shell of his former self whilst the first came out unscathed. And before that fight they'd already met lots of times.
If it was only the first's DNA he wanted am pretty sure he could havae got it without damaging his body to that extent. Surely if he was stronger than the first you're blindly suggesting he would have been able to get a drop of blood or even a strand of hair without damaging his body to that extent.
And Madara was only afraid of Itachi because as he himself said he just a shell of his former self not because he believed itachi could defeat him in his prime.

well madara wasnt in his prime about itachi.. and how many times will i have to explain... Madara had planned the Moon's Eye plan shortly after becomin a ROGUE ninja.. He wanted the 1st's DNA... The 1st was a man praised by all 5 NATIONS.. HE gave each country a tailed beast for a peace treatie provin their TRUCE.. Now if Madara had SLAIN the first every body in all 5 nations would KNOW it was HIM.. considerin he was the ONLY ninja at the time on his level.. Madara got famous from battlin the 1st so everyone knew of him.. If Madara had killed him his moons eyye plan would be a waste bcuz then he would be tracked down and killed.. Thats why madara stated about the legend about him losin.. "Did he really lose?" NO!! certainly he did not.. he got himself torn apart/beaten/crushed to make it seem convincing to the world that he's dead so noone will expect him again and stop his moons eye plan

 

[Shawnd]

If you can't reference it then your evidence is thrown out. I believe Madara said he lost but he believed it was for the best because Madara then set his sights on higher goals.

its true.. if madara had killed the 1st and the 1st was the only ninja who cud match him then everyone wud go after madara and his plans wud be ruined..