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after reading manga 234..the day of parting..at the end you'll see Zetsu
and he said..."this has become interesting hasnt it" ok..why was he there and what exactly does he mean...in manga 222..itachis doubt..the suicide note left by shisui said "i'm tired of the duties there is no future for uchia and for me i cannot walk the "path" any further...key word being "path" in manga 503..minato's dead demon seal..mardara(if its really him) said "many doors are still left open to me"..anyway mardara has been playing everyone his power to use the darkness within someones heart...manga 440..convo. with the 4th.
the 4th told naruto "pains probably being used by him" madara used the fox to attack konaho to provoke ill feelings toward the uchia..which made the uchia plan a Coup D'etat...which lead to itachi being used by danzou...mardara even used him...i can on and on...but i wanna know what do you think ...if i seem to be all over the place just pick a point and post a reply..
 
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TheSageHokage said:
after reading manga 234..the day of parting..at the end you'll see Zetsu
and he said..."this has become interesting hasnt it" ok..why was he there and what exactly does he mean...in manga 222..itachis doubt..the suicide note left by shisui said "i'm tired of the duties there is no future for uchia and for me i cannot walk the "path" any further...key word being "path" in manga 503..minato's dead demon seal..mardara(if its really him) said "many doors are still left open to me"..anyway mardara has been playing everyone his power to use the darkness within someones heart...manga 440..convo. with the 4th.
the 4th told naruto "pains probably being used by him" madara used the fox to attack konaho to provoke ill feelings toward the uchia..which made the uchia plan a Coup D'etat...which lead to itachi being used by danzou...mardara even used him...i can on and on...but i wanna know what do you think ...if i seem to be all over the place just pick a point and post a reply..
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of course madara planned everything.. hes been plannin this stuff ever since he left the village and learned abut the moon's eye plan..
 
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Yeah I think it will turn out the madara had somehow planned all his actions and how the opponent would react but just like when Minato change the tide because he was not supposed to be able to effect the plan I think it will be Itachi this time because I doubt he thought or knew Itachi would make a move like he has. Itachi to me is now the uttimate wild card not just for the power but because he obviously has done some planning of his own.
 
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i agree...in manga 509 a bridge to peace madara tells konan that he "spured yahkio to form akatsuki" and that he" was the one who gave nagato the rinnegan"..which means he had something to do with the uzumaki clan village being destroyed..
 
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TheSageHokage said:
after reading manga 234..the day of parting..at the end you'll see Zetsu
and he said..."this has become interesting hasnt it" ok..why was he there and what exactly does he mean...in manga 222..itachis doubt..the suicide note left by shisui said "i'm tired of the duties there is no future for uchia and for me i cannot walk the "path" any further...key word being "path" in manga 503..minato's dead demon seal..mardara(if its really him) said "many doors are still left open to me"..anyway mardara has been playing everyone his power to use the darkness within someones heart...manga 440..convo. with the 4th.
the 4th told naruto "pains probably being used by him" madara used the fox to attack konaho to provoke ill feelings toward the uchia..which made the uchia plan a Coup D'etat...which lead to itachi being used by danzou...mardara even used him...i can on and on...but i wanna know what do you think ...if i seem to be all over the place just pick a point and post a reply..
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No.

The Uchiha were already planning a coup before the Kyuubi's attack.
 
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NLee said:
No.

The Uchiha were already planning a coup before the Kyuubi's attack.
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No they hadn't it wasn't until some of the higher UPS in the village thought that the nine tails attack might have been planned and that only an uchiha could control the beast. After these suspicions were brought up the uchihA had begun planning their coup
 
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Yeah Madara thinks 100 years ahead. It's almost certain that all of his actions were planned for a certain purpose . he is a shrewd man he doesn't do something meaningless. Sure he had some resistance so he was forced to change the plan but all the action he took all those years seem to have lead to this day and it seems that this was his plan and his desire.He is a very confusing figure.
 
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damoney8888 said:
Yeah I think it will turn out the madara had somehow planned all his actions and how the opponent would react but just like when Minato change the tide because he was not supposed to be able to effect the plan I think it will be Itachi this time because I doubt he thought or knew Itachi would make a move like he has. Itachi to me is now the uttimate wild card not just for the power but because he obviously has done some planning of his own.
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Completely agree.

Madara knows: Naruto is coming for him and Sasuke, Sasuke's power, Naruto is with the 8 tails, Kabuto might double cross him at the end.

Madara doesnt know: Itachi is back and free from Edo tensei. I think he is going to be so angry at Kabuto for messing things up lol.
 
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JakeLife510 said:
Then why wasn't Tobi/Madara worried about Itachi being revived at first when Kabuto brought Akatsuki back?
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He was worried about the technique itself, but never thought Kabuto would lose control of him, because of Shisui's genjutsu. And i think Madara still doesnt know that Kabuto revived Nagato and Itachi yet. He just saw their bodies.
 
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Kinimaster said:
He was worried about the technique itself, but never thought Kabuto would lose control of him, because of Shisui's genjutsu. And i think Madara still doesnt know that Kabuto revived Nagato and Itachi yet. He just saw their bodies.
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i bet a white zetsu is hiding (maybe even just sitting :p) behind kabuto and watching his moves. we have seen him do this many times without the people he was spying on noticing.

even if no one is watching kabuto, madara knows that kabuto intended to use nagato and itachi at some point because he showed madara the bodies.

but i agree, madara shouldnt have any clue about itachi having control of his own mind/body again.


btw, where did madara get another 3 PAIRS of the rinnegan? i remember him NEEDING nagato's eyes, when he fought konan. now he suddenly has 6 new rinnegan eyes (one for each jinchuriki/path controls). i wonder where he got them from. also, it wouldve been cool if he was able to give a rinnegan (or a pair of them) to each of the 100k zetsu's. they immediately become a force thats much harder to deal with...by that i mean, all 100k being able to share each other's visions (not actually using the rinnegan jutsus in the battlefield). xD
 
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