Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

[PandaMan.]

I partially agree but they aren't invincible. You are underestimating those whom strength an battle skills we haven't seen.

 

[lubricati0n]

I've just got back on the base and I've noticed alot of Itachi/Nagato vs threads.. such as raikage's, minato ect.. I just have to let everyone know.. as Kabuto IS the USER of the Impure World Resurrection I think he know what he's talkin bout.. plus he worked under a genius known as orochimaru.. so i htink he knows alot bout previous shinobi. Kabuto specifacilly stated THAT both ITACHI and NAGATO are his two STRONGEST summoning other then the last coffin (meaning he HAS no other summoning stronger then those two).. (Put the last coffin to the side for now) Itachi and Nagato ARE his two best strongest shinobi which is why he wanted to use those two to capture the 8 and 9 tails at the same time (which would have worked mind you if it weren't for Itachi's geniusness) So everyone please stop makin new threads with itach vs raikage or nagato vs anyone.. because THEY cant be COMPARED to.. If the 3rd raikage was stronger he would have used him instead of them to try and capture 8 or 9 tails.. but he didnt bcuz bee and naruto would have won together.. No other shinobi not even Madara could stand up agaisnt Itachi (stated by Madara himself) meaning that Itachi is overall stronger than every previous kage alongside nagato "since the 1st was the strongest hokage"..(and madara admits he NEVER lost to the 1st hokage.. He merely pretended to lose to gain his DNA in order to perform the ability Izanagi stated here.

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so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara.. simple fact is he wasnt Madara wanted his DNA to perform the Izanagi

These are the two prodigies of the shippuden series.. Itachi was the Uchiha Pride.. and ELITE clan feared by all.. who all praised ONE man "Itachi"..

Nagato has rinnegon nuff said.. The strongest Dojutsu that the sharigan cant even beat..

So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara.. Itachi can meaning Itachi is stronger then the 1st and also the rest of the bunch and nagato is up there with Itachi so NO MORE.. Itachi and Nagato are the strongest shinobi to walk the world next to the SO6P himself and now MADARA'S current form.. Since he has EMS, Izanagi, Time-Space, Rineggon and all same abilities as young complete Nagato..

Comment please bcuz people need to realize that itachi nor Nagato cant be compared to not even to JMAN, ORO, Minato none of them are a match for either one of these two...

Madara could not stand up to Itachi at the time. Like you said, the Rinnengan cannot be beaten by the Sharingan, however Madara now has both. Madara would utterly destroy Itachi according to what you said.

According to you, the 1st was the strongest "HOKAGE". The title of hokage belongs to Konoha, no other village. Hence, the part where you said Itachi is overall the strongest kage contradicts itself.

According to you, Madara pretended to lose. This contradicts with this part: so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara. If he pretended to lose, all it means is that hashirama was fooled. This does not mean he was weaker, especially if we have not seen the full extent of his power. Therefore, "So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara" this is now invalid.

Simple Fact: He did not want Hashirama's cells to perform Izanagi. As in the link you gave, it says Madara has 2 paths in one. This goes towards him wanting to become the next SO6P and hosting the Juubi + controlling the world. Izanagi was just a bonus for Madara.

The part where you said Madara stated he could not stand up to Itachi(1st para), then the part where you said Madara is pretty much a young Nagato with Uchiha powers contradict each other. In your first paragraph you talk of the latest chapters, hence you cannot say Madara could not stand up to Itachi. This should not be included.

 

[Shawnd]

Finally a good thread from Shawnd. But I have to disagree with the Hashirama n Madara part. If Madara was stronger than him he cudda killed him there and used his body for even greater experiments

let me explain from Madara's point of view.. madara had already been plannin on his Moons eye plan.. gettin the 1st's DNA was jus the first step.. which he needed not only to live longer but to posess Izanagi.. now he planned on losin not only to get the DNA but also to make the world think that he's dead.. and people argue well if he was stronger why didnt he just beat the 1st ANd get his DNA.. well then his plan would go down.. not only would all the Senju hunt Madara but all 5 nations considerin the 1st gave everyone a tailed beast.. so he made it seem like he lost and he would benefit MORE in that way so he can do what he WANT to do unnoticed by ANYONE!!

 

[Two]

well theres on problem with that.. you will never see itachis full strength UNLESS he was forced to face either ... Sasuke, Madara, Nagato, or SO6P alone all on a 1v1 battle.. unless ur one of them u wont see his true potential bcuz they are the only ones stronger then him..

waahhhh i think you're slightly over exaggerating Itachi's powers if he had to fight Bee in a full on match he would be pushed to his limits.. .you really give him too much credit it makes you seem like a small-minded fanboy

 

[Shawnd]

Madara could not stand up to Itachi at the time. Like you said, the Rinnengan cannot be beaten by the Sharingan, however Madara now has both. Madara would utterly destroy Itachi according to what you said.

According to you, the 1st was the strongest "HOKAGE". The title of hokage belongs to Konoha, no other village. Hence, the part where you said Itachi is overall the strongest kage contradicts itself.

According to you, Madara pretended to lose. This contradicts with this part: so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara. If he pretended to lose, all it means is that hashirama was fooled. This does not mean he was weaker, especially if we have not seen the full extent of his power. Therefore, "So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara" this is now invalid.

Simple Fact: He did not want Hashirama's cells to perform Izanagi. As in the link you gave, it says Madara has 2 paths in one. This goes towards him wanting to become the next SO6P and hosting the Juubi + controlling the world. Izanagi was just a bonus for Madara.

The part where you said Madara stated he could not stand up to Itachi(1st para), then the part where you said Madara is pretty much a young Nagato with Uchiha powers contradict each other. In your first paragraph you talk of the latest chapters, hence you cannot say Madara could not stand up to Itachi. This should not be included.

im talkin bout b4 madara got the rinnegon.. madara even thought to himself when he spoke to sasuke that if itachi really knew what he was plannin he would not be here .. meanin itachi wud kill him.. also, when itachi joined the akatsuki he MADE madara promise not to harm konoha and madara had no choice but to OBEY but when itachi died thats when madara made his move on konoha which is also why he wanted itachi dead and sasuke to take his place hopin to make sasuke his puppet.. but sasuke's noone puppet

 

[Shawnd]

waahhhh i think you're slightly over exaggerating Itachi's powers if he had to fight Bee in a full on match he would be pushed to his limits.. .you really give him too much credit it makes you seem like a small-minded fanboy

well for one thing.. what we do kno bout itachi is that he's much stronger/smarter then kisame.. which is why kisame respected his wishes and also bee was no MATCH for kisame.. kisame wasnt even tryin to fight nor capture bee.. the whole fight was a plot jus to become a spy.. and kisame brought bee down from version mode 2 to 1 and 1 swing.. and if kisame wanted he wud have totally devoured bee and if kisame can do it that easily jus imagine what itachi'll do.. u jus dont read between the lines mate

 

[Two]

According to you, Madara pretended to lose. This contradicts with this part: so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara. If he pretended to lose, all it means is that hashirama was fooled. This does not mean he was weaker, especially if we have not seen the full extent of his power. Therefore, "So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara" this is now invalid.

Sd.

The rest of what you said was complete total utter nonsanse and please stop saying 'contradicts'

but i agree with you on this point Madara was not stronger than the 1st Imo and that is simply because if he could have beat him why would he fake his death surely if you know you are strong enough you would just kill the man you hate and take hiss cells from the corps... .right

 

[Avani]

I've just got back on the base and I've noticed alot of Itachi/Nagato vs threads.. such as raikage's, minato ect.. I just have to let everyone know.. as Kabuto IS the USER of the Impure World Resurrection I think he know what he's talkin bout.. plus he worked under a genius known as orochimaru.. so i htink he knows alot bout previous shinobi. Kabuto specifacilly stated THAT both ITACHI and NAGATO are his two STRONGEST summoning other then the last coffin (meaning he HAS no other summoning stronger then those two).. (Put the last coffin to the side for now) Itachi and Nagato ARE his two best strongest shinobi which is why he wanted to use those two to capture the 8 and 9 tails at the same time (which would have worked mind you if it weren't for Itachi's geniusness) So everyone please stop makin new threads with itach vs raikage or nagato vs anyone.. because THEY cant be COMPARED to.. If the 3rd raikage was stronger he would have used him instead of them to try and capture 8 or 9 tails.. but he didnt bcuz bee and naruto would have won together.. No other shinobi not even Madara could stand up agaisnt Itachi (stated by Madara himself) meaning that Itachi is overall stronger than every previous kage alongside nagato "since the 1st was the strongest hokage"..(and madara admits he NEVER lost to the 1st hokage.. He merely pretended to lose to gain his DNA in order to perform the ability Izanagi stated here.

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so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara.. simple fact is he wasnt Madara wanted his DNA to perform the Izanagi

These are the two prodigies of the shippuden series.. Itachi was the Uchiha Pride.. and ELITE clan feared by all.. who all praised ONE man "Itachi"..

Nagato has rinnegon nuff said.. The strongest Dojutsu that the sharigan cant even beat..

So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara.. Itachi can meaning Itachi is stronger then the 1st and also the rest of the bunch and nagato is up there with Itachi so NO MORE.. Itachi and Nagato are the strongest shinobi to walk the world next to the SO6P himself and now MADARA'S current form.. Since he has EMS, Izanagi, Time-Space, Rineggon and all same abilities as young complete Nagato..

Comment please bcuz people need to realize that itachi nor Nagato cant be compared to not even to JMAN, ORO, Minato none of them are a match for either one of these two...

You just cited manga????

Did you foget manga lies? ( you said it..)

Oh no...

Dies of heart attack..

 

[Two]

well for one thing.. what we do kno bout itachi is that he's much stronger/smarter then kisame.. which is why kisame respected his wishes and also bee was no MATCH for kisame.. kisame wasnt even tryin to fight nor capture bee.. the whole fight was a plot jus to become a spy.. and kisame brought bee down from version mode 2 to 1 and 1 swing.. and if kisame wanted he wud have totally devoured bee and if kisame can do it that easily jus imagine what itachi'll do.. u jus dont read between the lines mate

you say that but kisame is obviously going to beat anybody that souly relies on hand-to-hand combat and his only means of strength is his chakra Naruto would probably also lose to kisame in his km

 

[Shawnd]

The rest of what you said was complete total utter nonsanse and please stop saying 'contradicts'

but i agree with you on this point Madara was not stronger than the 1st Imo and that is simply because if he could have beat him why would he fake his death surely if you know you are strong enough you would just kill the man you hate and take hiss cells from the corps... .right

now read my response to his post and you'll understand why madara didnt kill the 1st

 

[Shawnd]

you say that but kisame is obviously going to beat anybody that souly relies on hand-to-hand combat and his only means of strength is his chakra Naruto would probably also lose to kisame in his km

finally somethin we agree on ^^

 

[Two]

finally somethin we agree on ^^

haha wow never thought the day would comexd

 

[Two]

now read my response to his post and you'll understand why madara didnt kill the 1st

what you said to him had nothing to do with the 1st

 

[Minato Uchiha]

you might be right about nagato. i don't see how anyone can beat him except sealing him. which by the way the 3rd and 4th are good at. i think the 4th would take nagato because of that reason, and his immense speed. Itachi though, idk. I know he's great (my 3rd fave character) but i don't think he's invincible. I'm pretty sure madara was exaggerating a bit about itachi being able to beat him.

 

[Minato Uchiha]

you say that but kisame is obviously going to beat anybody that souly relies on hand-to-hand combat and his only means of strength is his chakra Naruto would probably also lose to kisame in his km

i can't completely agree with this, because Gai souly relies on hand to hand combat, and he defeated kisame

 

[Two]

i can't completely agree with this, because Gai soupy relies on hand to hand combat, and he defeated kisame

If you would have finished reading the sentence you would agree with me.... i'll give you a couple of .............

 

[Shawnd]

i can't completely agree with this, because Gai souly relies on hand to hand combat, and he defeated kisame

gai won bcuz he dont use chakra.. naruto and bee does... kisame wud jus suck them dry and 2 swoops andn o mopre chakra means no more life..

 

[Two]

gai won bcuz he dont use chakra.. naruto and bee does... kisame wud jus suck them dry and 2 swoops andn o mopre chakra means no more life..

apart from the fact naruto will never stay down, up i'm actually staring to think he's immortal.... and if it was a fight he would just switch to SM

 

[Minato Uchiha]

If you would have finished reading the sentence you would agree with me.... i'll give you a couple of .............

yea you got that

 

[Shawnd]

apart from the fact naruto will never stay down, up i'm actually staring to think he's immortal.... and if it was a fight he would just switch to SM

huh i dont get what ur tryin to say