[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[laxus]

Than quit complaining.

Yes, he was controlled by Kabuto, either way none of you Nagato fans will give credit to Itachi, instead the whole time it's about him being controlled. If Naruto/Bee weren't there Itachi took him, one on one same thing he was controlled. Itachi no matter what will never be given a victory but neither is Nagato.
Nagato = Failed capturing Naruto/Bee

Itachi = Passed (protected them and sealed Nagato)

are you okay because it was never one on one with pain, you should stop with your complaining
it's as if you forget that itachi would have been in chikabi tensa if it weren't for the help for naruto and bee.

 

[ReLax -]

Anyone saying that a guy who was considered a God in the manga destroyed konoha in one move and captured the 9 tails by himself isnt stronger then itachi is a retard or a fanboy take your pick.

Consider god? He, self proclaimed himself as god and his village some what believed him (no one else). He didn't fight the 9 tails (in full form) but the 6 tail (Oro pretty much messed around with the 4 tailed), the 7-8th tail came out once he had it captured. Also you do know that even if Naruto went all 9 tails, releasing the kyuubi it is only half, only three people fought the 9 tails in full Madara, Hashirama, and Minato (who sealed half of it away). I'm not taking any credit away from Nagato/Pein as it was amazing to see what he was capable of with only one path.

Can Itachi fight the Kyuubi? Or can he not? that is all assumption, you Nagato fans come out stating he can't because it wasn't stated in the manga? but where was it stated he couldn't? Itachi fighting Kyuubi will be just assumption and due to Itachi having a strong Sharingan and seeing Sasuke get into Naruto/Kyuubi mind, why can't Itachi?

Nagato being controlled by a noob took on the 3 powerful ninja and would of killed them all or captured them all without help from one another couple of facts for you there

Would have? Did he? No.

Nagato didn't have anyone around, or else of course he would get help (Or at least Kabuto would make sure). As I said this was hardly a battle, the fact is simple Itachi succeed with Naruto/Bee and Nagato with Kabuto failed.

are you okay because it was never one on one with pain, you should stop with your complaining
it's as if you forget that itachi would have been in chikabi tensa if it weren't for the help for naruto and bee.

Can you read or no?

Than quit complaining.

Yes, he was controlled by Kabuto, either way none of you Nagato fans will give credit to Itachi, instead the whole time it's about him being controlled. If Naruto/Bee weren't there Itachi took him, one on one same thing he was controlled. Itachi no matter what will never be given a victory but neither is Nagato.
Nagato = Failed capturing Naruto/Bee

Itachi = Passed (protected them and sealed Nagato)

I clearly said "If" it were a one on one and say Itachi sealed him, your only argument would have been, Kabuto was controlling Nagato.

 

[laxus]

Consider god? He, self proclaimed himself as god and his village some what believed him (no one else). He didn't fight the 9 tails (in full form) but the 6 tail (Oro pretty much messed around with the 4 tailed), the 7-8th tail came out once he had it captured. Also you do know that even if Naruto went all 9 tails, releasing the kyuubi it is only half, only three people fought the 9 tails in full Madara, Hashirama, and Minato (who sealed half of it away). I'm not taking any credit away from Nagato/Pein as it was amazing to see what he was capable of with only one path.

Can Itachi fight the Kyuubi? Or can he not? that is all assumption, you Nagato fans come out stating he can't because it wasn't stated in the manga? but where was it stated he couldn't? Itachi fighting Kyuubi will be just assumption and due to Itachi having a strong Sharingan and seeing Sasuke get into Naruto/Kyuubi mind, why can't Itachi?




Would have? Did he? No.

Nagato didn't have anyone around, or else of course he would get help (Or at least Kabuto would make sure). As I said this was hardly a battle, the fact is simple Itachi succeed with Naruto/Bee and Nagato with Kabuto failed.



Can you read or no?



I clearly said "If" it were a one on one and say Itachi sealed him, your only argument would have been, Kabuto was controlling Nagato.

but you can't see what i said, when he used chikabi tensa he is done no escape for him he doesn't have enough power to destroy that.
but i guess we also saw the 2nd hokage full extent when he was controlled when he didn't even use space time tech right
so this just proves if he was in control he would be better

 

[sgt]

lol ur dumb, as much as i like itachi since he is my favorite character the facts shows us the reality. Either you are on drugs or just blind or in worst case 2 stupid.. sorry for harsh words but these are facts aswell like nagato is stronger than itachi. Itachi isn't SMARTER.. we never seen nagato as much as itachi to discuss their smartness.. We never seen nagato with normal legs so he could move freely. Nagato raped bee and naruto literally. Itachi is compared to bee and naruto VERY smart and CALM to see things trough in hard moments.. He quikly came with a solution and saw a weak spot in nagato's attack so he made a PLAN for that.. As for the attacks, Itachi NEVER could have done without the help of naruto and bee.. And ofcourse he just used totsuka's sword JUST to be on the SAFE side. Why ? if it would drag on any longer nagato would overpower them since he's immortal, and naruto was at the brink of running out of chakra ( he lost his chakra mode for a moment after fight remember ? ) So simply put Nagato > Itachi im afraid.. but both of them are wicked cool characters

 

[Avani]

Consider god? He, self proclaimed himself as god and his village some what believed him (no one else). He didn't fight the 9 tails (in full form) but the 6 tail (Oro pretty much messed around with the 4 tailed), the 7-8th tail came out once he had it captured. Also you do know that even if Naruto went all 9 tails, releasing the kyuubi it is only half, only three people fought the 9 tails in full Madara, Hashirama, and Minato (who sealed half of it away). I'm not taking any credit away from Nagato/Pein as it was amazing to see what he was capable of with only one path.

Can Itachi fight the Kyuubi? Or can he not? that is all assumption, you Nagato fans come out stating he can't because it wasn't stated in the manga? but where was it stated he couldn't? Itachi fighting Kyuubi will be just assumption and due to Itachi having a strong Sharingan and seeing Sasuke get into Naruto/Kyuubi mind, why can't Itachi?

Nagato didn't have anyone around, or else of course he would get help (Or at least Kabuto would make sure). As I said this was hardly a battle, the fact is simple Itachi succeed with Naruto/Bee and Nagato with Kabuto failed.

~_~ It will never end. xd

God is one of the paths of Buddhists philosophy = Benevolence etc. Not God in Christian sence. Whatever.

Madara didn't actually fight Kyuubi. Sharingan can control Kyuubi with genjutsu but, in the manga it was said that that Madara couldn't control kyuubi for long (despite he had his EMS) during Hashirama and his battle. Each time as soon as his control over Kyuubi was broken ( during his battle with the first and by MInato later on) he just left leaving the kyuubi behind to be dealt with by others. He doesn't seem to be very fond of hanging around in the vicintiy of a loose Kyuubi.

So I'm not sure if Itachi can do more than Madara and fight Kyuubi one on one. His genjutsu maybe much more effective but for how long and how effective on Kyuubi is yet unknown. But Itachi was always genjutsu maseter so who knows..:shrug:

As for this particular battle it was not between Itachi and Nagato to begin with. It was more between Kabuto and Itachi. Since at any moment Nagato didn't make any attack on hiw own as the manga 552 clearly stated. I don't think Kishi wanted to make them battle, that's why he deliberately detailed this part.

Itachi had one the two rounds so far- he freed himself and stopped Kabuto from using Nagato as a puppet. In last manga Naruto said that he hated this guy who was making them fight with the people with whom they didn't want to fight with. Not only this was relevant to their fight with Nagato, it was the life history of Itachi. I think that was part of the reason he chose to goto Kabuto to settle the matter- so no one else have to fight unwanted fights.

Least we can do is to stop making Itachi keep fighting Nagato in the threads.

 

[arv993]

This thread would never end if ppl wanna compare prime when they both were healthy and had all their powers and mobility and no sickness nagato vs itachi, its a tough battle where both sides IMO itachi wins he is smart and uses his techs well and with susano, yata and the sword he can pull the win(and also tsukiyomi) but last but not least no matter what itachi would win becus he has KA since we are comparing their prime.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

This thread would never end if ppl wanna compare prime when they both were healthy and had all their powers and mobility and no sickness nagato vs itachi, its a tough battle where both sides IMO itachi wins he is smart and uses his techs well and with susano, yata and the sword he can pull the win(and also tsukiyomi) but last but not least no matter what itachi would win becus he has KA since we are comparing their prime.

r u a fanboy of itachi? because what about the logicness from pains side

 

[Avani]

This thread would never end if ppl wanna compare prime when they both were healthy and had all their powers and mobility and no sickness nagato vs itachi, its a tough battle where both sides IMO itachi wins he is smart and uses his techs well and with susano, yata and the sword he can pull the win(and also tsukiyomi) but last but not least no matter what itachi would win becus he has KA since we are comparing their prime.

Whatever dude.

 

[arv993]

r u a fanboy of itachi? because what about the logicness from pains side

i acknowledge that it is hard fight and I am not one of those kids who say Itachi 100% but i think his chances are better sorry but thats my opinion nagato can win but Itachi seems to take it cos since most of these ppl are talking about a prime itachi who has KA u really can't get more hax of a jutsu than that becus itachi can pretty much rig the command to be anything he wants so that is a good reason he can win. And I never stated in my previous posts that this is an easy fight unlike some nagato fanboys do and itachi fanboys do.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

i acknowledge that it is hard fight and I am not one of those kids who say Itachi 100% but i think his chances are better sorry but thats my opinion nagato can win but Itachi seems to take it cos since most of these ppl are talking about a prime itachi who has KA u really can't get more hax of a jutsu than that becus itachi can pretty much rig the command to be anything he wants so that is a good reason he can win. And I never stated in my previous posts that this is an easy fight unlike some nagato fanboys do and itachi fanboys do.

the only reason y it seems itachi would most likely win is because we know allot more about itachi and not enought about pein

 

[arv993]

the only reason y it seems itachi would most likely win is because we know allot more about itachi and not enought about pein

but haven't we seen all of his powers thou what more do u want to see he is one of the strongest characters on the show and they have displayed that many times. I don't think there is anything more he can show us where as Itachi actually has never gone all out and we might see a new tech when he fights kabuto(just a prediction)

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Nagato will win itachi will run out of stamnia after 4 MS techs Nagato has grnjutsu mind blocks and genjutsu traps in his own brain as stated in naruto shippuden episode 157 04:21 genjutsu is a non factor.Amateseru can be sensed before it hits it can be shinra tensei or absorbed by the preta path inside of him and summoning animals to distract while he uses chibaku tensei or he could simply use divine attraction and absorb susanoo with the preta path.The facts are Nagato has so many ways to kill itachi and itachi has one susanoo.

 

[arv993]

Nagato will win itachi will run out of stamnia after 4 MS techs Nagato has grnjutsu mind blocks and genjutsu traps in his own brain as stated in naruto shippuden episode 157 04:21 genjutsu is a non factor.Amateseru can be sensed before it hits it can be shinra tensei or absorbed by the preta path inside of him and summoning animals to distract while he uses chibaku tensei or he could simply use divine attraction and absorb susanoo with the preta path.The facts are Nagato has so many ways to kill itachi and itachi has one susanoo.

genjutsu is a non-factoru must be kidding me jiraya just proved that wrong all the blocks did not do crap and since we are talking about them in pprime itachi wins with a KA as a last resort even though his sword, yata combo is good plus he has tsukiyomi which just has to look him in the eye.

 

[Honord Sage]

What will they do ones Itachi is put to rest? Start threads on how unfair it was? Itachi is one of the living dead and in the end He will be sealed away for all eternity, never to returned. What will you do?

 

[Sakuralove]

genjutsu is a non-factoru must be kidding me jiraya just proved that wrong all the blocks did not do crap and since we are talking about them in pprime itachi wins with a KA as a last resort even though his sword, yata combo is good plus he has tsukiyomi which just has to look him in the eye.

jirayas was sound genjutsu on paths KA has the message protect the hidden leaf and tsukiyomi cant get past his genjutsu mind blocks owned by a girl

 

[laxus]

just want to say that souud an eye genjutsu are different entirely.they just cast illusions

 

[arv993]

just want to say that souud an eye genjutsu are different entirely.they just cast illusions

jirayas was sound genjutsu on paths KA has the message protect the hidden leaf and tsukiyomi cant get past his genjutsu mind blocks owned by a girl

sound genjutsu and itachi's genjutsu are still strong u guys hav no proof that it doesn't work and we have seen the genjutsu blocks to be useless against jiraya and KA(cos its the strongest genjutsu of the ms) would most likely work and he can rig to the command he wants he wanted it to be. soundd and visual are different genjutsu yet they have the same purpose which is to affect the chakra flow within the opponent.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

but haven't we seen all of his powers thou what more do u want to see he is one of the strongest characters on the show and they have displayed that many times. I don't think there is anything more he can show us where as Itachi actually has never gone all out and we might see a new tech when he fights kabuto(just a prediction)

we seen itachi do different moves as for pein we seen him do the same stuff but yea itachi does have more abilities

 

[arv993]

we seen itachi do different moves as for pein we seen him do the same stuff but yea itachi does have more abilities

maybe nagato was capable of more but he does not have the poaths in order to use those jutsus

 

[PositiveEmotions]

maybe nagato was capable of more but he does not have the poaths in order to use those jutsus

well we do not know that man remember nagato was being controlled