[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[Kinimaster]

I wasn't pointing it at you but to overall the people going on about Nagato or Itachi.

Yes, you countered points but than someone will counter yours and the trend will just go on, this is all opinion based what Kishi would desire to happen in the battle is with him if it were to ever happen. He wants Itachi to win he will or he wants Nagato too win he would.

I don't think Itachi would pawn Nagato but I also don't think Nagato would pawn Itachi simle in my case.

Completely agree i think they are on similar level, this just proves Itachi fans have more objectivity.

 

[uzamaki4th]

r ya retarded all itachi has to do is use tskyuomi and its over or susanoo or amaterasu

 

[Bad Luck Brian]

Itachi is way better

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Itachi is way better

u got that signature from my nb album lol

 

[Inception]

im a big itachi fan but nagato was being controlled while itachi had his free will, so i dont think you can say itachi is stronger based off of that battle

Kabuto is smarter than Nagato. I would think Kabuto knows how to use his techniques the best especially considering the fact that he has no limitations. Edo Tensei's healing ability also gave Nagato a huge advantage. Please stop saying it was 3 vs. 1 when it was obviously an even match. Fact is; Nagato healed twice?, that means he was killed or almost killed two or more times but Edo helped him stay in battle. HE WAS DEFEATED MORE THAN ONCE. Naruto and Bee was getting owned by Nagato so it's obviously Nagato > Bee and Naruto. When Itachi joined, the battle was finished in matter of seconds. Go back to the manga and see what Itachi says, he figures out Chibaku Tensei as soon as it's used, figures out its weakness and comes up with a strategy to end the technique while knowing how to stop Edo Tensei Nagato by sealing him with his sword. Kabuto also mentioned that Itachi figured out Rinnegan's weakness. LOL @ people still denying the obvious.

Itachi is stronger if you compare all of the stats (speed, intelligence, etc). Nagato is all brute strength and that does not help win a fight as we just saw.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Tsukuyomi is enough 4 Nagato

 

[MuDfAcToRy25]

Tsukuyomi is enough 4 Nagato

You and i have been going back and forth for a while on this and i haven't really taken a FIRM stance one way or the other but here goes......Ready?

ITACHI WOULD WIN WITHOUT A DOUBT! AND HE DID!..........HOWEVER He BEAT UP A CRIPPLE!!!! GO ITACHI!

There needs to be a decision made as to whether this is supposed to be a FAIR FIGHT or just Itachi beating the crap out of a dude WHO CAN'T WALK! Its pretty clear Nagato isn't going to do very well dodging an extending sword when he can't walk on his own! DUH PEOPLE! He could pull off a few summons to block it probably but thats only delaying the inevitable.

And Amaterasu burning Nagato before he could do anything KEEPS getting referenced. WELL GUESS WHAT??? Kabuto was the one who didn't think fast enough NOT NAGATO! THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU READ PEOPLE!!!

IT'S HILARIOUS THAT ALL THESE ITACHI FANBOYS ARE SO SCARED OF A FAIR FIGHT!!! When you told me this was supposed to be a hypothetical 1 on 1 non edo battle between them i TRIED to tell that to some others that claimed i was "CHANGING THE RULES". You should set some CLEAR BOUNDARIES and maybe people will stop hiding behind BS weaknesses. I haven't seen even ONE nagato fan BRING UP THE FACT THAT ITACHI CAN BARELY SEE AND IS SO SICK HES FORCEABLY PROLONGING HIS LIFE WITH DRUGS B/C EDO TENSEI FIXED THAT....BUT ITACHI FANS WILL BRING UP ANY WEAKNESS FROM ANY TIME EVEN IF ITS FROM THE PAIN BODIES!!! I thought this would be a fun debate when i clicked on the link NOT A COMPETITION ON WHO CAN BE THE BIGGEST MORON AND MOST HEINOUS OVERSIGHT OF, NOT JUST FACTS BUT THE COMMON SENSE THAT THINGS SHOULD BE DONE FAIRLY We've ALL seen that Nagato was as fast as any other shinobi UNTIL HE GOT DOZENS OF CHAKRA RODS SHOVED IN HIS SPINE!!! SO IF ITACHI CAN SEE AND ISN"T STOPPING TO COUGH UP BLOOD EVERY 30 SECONDS WHY HELL DOES EVERYONE ACT LIKE NAGATO JUST HAS TO BE CRIPPLED IN THIS 'HYPOTHETICAL' FIGHT???

HEY FUN QUESTION!! WHOS STRONGER, NEJI OR THE FOURTH HOKAGE??? NEJI CUZ THE FOURTH IS EFFING DEAD!!! SEE MY POINT?!?!

 

[Jupiter]

hmm lets see

3 very powerfull ninja vs nagato

yeah, seems fair to me

 

[Inception]

You and i have been going back and forth for a while on this and i haven't really taken a FIRM stance one way or the other but here goes......Ready?

ITACHI WOULD WIN WITHOUT A DOUBT! AND HE DID!..........HOWEVER He BEAT UP A CRIPPLE!!!! GO ITACHI!

There needs to be a decision made as to whether this is supposed to be a FAIR FIGHT or just Itachi beating the crap out of a dude WHO CAN'T WALK! Its pretty clear Nagato isn't going to do very well dodging an extending sword when he can't walk on his own! DUH PEOPLE! He could pull off a few summons to block it probably but thats only delaying the inevitable.

And Amaterasu burning Nagato before he could do anything KEEPS getting referenced. WELL GUESS WHAT??? Kabuto was the one who didn't think fast enough NOT NAGATO! THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU READ PEOPLE!!!

IT'S HILARIOUS THAT ALL THESE ITACHI FANBOYS ARE SO SCARED OF A FAIR FIGHT!!! When you told me this was supposed to be a hypothetical 1 on 1 non edo battle between them i TRIED to tell that to some others that claimed i was "CHANGING THE RULES". You should set some CLEAR BOUNDARIES and maybe people will stop hiding behind BS weaknesses. I haven't seen even ONE nagato fan BRING UP THE FACT THAT ITACHI CAN BARELY SEE AND IS SO SICK HES FORCEABLY PROLONGING HIS LIFE WITH DRUGS B/C EDO TENSEI FIXED THAT....BUT ITACHI FANS WILL BRING UP ANY WEAKNESS FROM ANY TIME EVEN IF ITS FROM THE PAIN BODIES!!! I thought this would be a fun debate when i clicked on the link NOT A COMPETITION ON WHO CAN BE THE BIGGEST MORON AND MOST HEINOUS OVERSIGHT OF, NOT JUST FACTS BUT THE COMMON SENSE THAT THINGS SHOULD BE DONE FAIRLY We've ALL seen that Nagato was as fast as any other shinobi UNTIL HE GOT DOZENS OF CHAKRA RODS SHOVED IN HIS SPINE!!! SO IF ITACHI CAN SEE AND ISN"T STOPPING TO COUGH UP BLOOD EVERY 30 SECONDS WHY HELL DOES EVERYONE ACT LIKE NAGATO JUST HAS TO BE CRIPPLED IN THIS 'HYPOTHETICAL' FIGHT???

HEY FUN QUESTION!! WHOS STRONGER, NEJI OR THE FOURTH HOKAGE??? NEJI CUZ THE FOURTH IS EFFING DEAD!!! SEE MY POINT?!?!

Stop raging.

Your opinion is only your opinion and nothing else.

 

[khaydz5]

Kabuto is smarter than Nagato. I would think Kabuto knows how to use his techniques the best especially considering the fact that he has no limitations. Edo Tensei's healing ability also gave Nagato a huge advantage. Please stop saying it was 3 vs. 1 when it was obviously an even match. Fact is; Nagato healed twice?, that means he was killed or almost killed two or more times but Edo helped him stay in battle. HE WAS DEFEATED MORE THAN ONCE. Naruto and Bee was getting owned by Nagato so it's obviously Nagato > Bee and Naruto. When Itachi joined, the battle was finished in matter of seconds. Go back to the manga and see what Itachi says, he figures out Chibaku Tensei as soon as it's used, figures out its weakness and comes up with a strategy to end the technique while knowing how to stop Edo Tensei Nagato by sealing him with his sword. Kabuto also mentioned that Itachi figured out Rinnegan's weakness. LOL @ people still denying the obvious.

Itachi is stronger if you compare all of the stats (speed, intelligence, etc). Nagato is all brute strength and that does not help win a fight as we just saw.

still dont wanna give up fanboy?


dumbest statement dude. Nagato got his rinnegan for how many years,and its his own body. don't bring crap like that honestly.If nagato is in control he can utilize his jutsus waaaay more effectively than what kabuto did. nagato knows himself more than kabuto knows him.period. you expect kabuto to master rinnegan techs more than its owner in a couple of days?lol. what an insane fanboy.

the very fact that kabuto knows the edo summons can heal,ofcourse he would just make a little effort to dodge things that he knows edo summons can survive. you should reread this whole thread,alot of people already explained this.

lol when itachi joined the fight they where owned by chibaku tensei and you cannot deny the fact that it is the combined jutsu of the 3 who destroyed the chibaku. you reread the manga yourself first before advising someone.

all of this points are being posted over and over again. and still itachi fanboys can't get it lol.

 

[ackeem1992]

this BS again dude?? I though you learned your lesson when I countered all your "facts" lol

here:
ok I don't wanna answer this coz it might break your heart well anyway this are not facts coz clearly its all speculation coming from an average itachi fanboy.

just adding to this

i did know before the recent manga (551) that nagato being the aggressor and the prime antagonist (at that point) was going to be defeated in favor of the plot, it was quite obvious. now kishi allowed not one but two of the strongest Jinchuriki's along with a genius uchia to battle nagato, now by doing so, is'nt it quite obvious that the writer is placing emphasis on the strength of nagato and basically implying itachi could not have gotten the job done by himself?, hence itachi would've told bee and naruto to step aside and leave it to him, as a reader why is this fact so hard to accept when the obvious is right in the manga.?

now many people assumed that itachi's Yasaka Magatama was strong enough to destroy chibaku tensei which it wasn't, that technique was probably the weakest among the 3 techs thrown at chibaku tensei, why? a biju is a massive blob of chakra, naruto and bee both possess two of the strongest biju's in narutoverse, they're techniques are fueled by both "base chakra" and the biju's chakra inside of them thus their jutsu's will inevitably and always pack alot more power than an average long range tech, itachi's yasaka magatama is no exception for the power of the tech is determined by the amount of chakra he placed in it.

now many people also assumed that itachi could' have simply used three magatama and destroy chibaku, base on what i've analyzed from the manga that would have most likely be a fail, why? simple, the three (or more) magatama would have to penetrate the chibaku tensei simultaneously (at exactly the same time), because one magatama after the other wouldn't pack enough power to break the sphere of chibaku tensei, the amount of energy in one magatama is lesser than that in a chibaku, itachi himself new this and quickly came to the realization that bee naruto and him would have to release their techs at the same time to destroy chibaku. so itachi would have to somehow make three clones of susanoo then attack at the same time.

therefore if bee and naruto was not present in that setting itachi would have mostly likely been buried inside a mini moon. thus nagato is indeed superior to itachi in strength and note nagato was also partially cripple and was still very overwhelming for arguably 3 of the strongest ninja's in the present manga. now i'm not saying itachi cannot defeat nagato perhaps in another setting, because anybody can defeat anybody as proven by shikamaru.

 

[ackeem1992]

Nagato is strong we all know that but your guys judgmental on this battle is too one sided.

We seen what Nagato is capable of, but we have yet to see a healthy Itachi or even him in a real battle as so far he hasn't been in any where he is in a situation to either win or kill. ATM no one has even answered when they have seen Itachi serious.

I have already said this battle can go either way but I'd put it down as a draw and I can give a rats ass what any Nagato or Itachi fan have against my opinion.

this doesn't make any sense, so your basically implying itachi was joking around when fighting nagato.

itachi fails and badly

 

[ReLax -]

this doesn't make any sense, so your basically implying itachi was joking around when fighting nagato.

itachi fails and badly

No.

I simply said Itachi has not been in a serious battle (Meaning he has never fought to kill) in the manga.

This battle isn't even really considered a battle as Nagato was trying to capture Naruto and B, while Itachi was protecting.

Itachi = Successful

Nagato = Failure

End of discussion and move on.

 

[Maina Deah]

Nagato is way stronger than Itachi

 

[Yuka]

I follow you 100 percent itachi is definitely stronger nagato

 

[Acnologia..]

I follow you 100 percent itachi is definitely stronger nagato

Im not that big of a fan of Itachi but i agree

 

[Paintachi]

I just don't get it. Like I said, if you based your entire argument off of CT and it fails, what else can you say?

Itachi showed that he can think calmly in tight situations. He analyzed the situation (quicker than Shikamaru), came up with a strategy and utilized it. Followed up with another attack, sealing Nagato away forever. Face it, his genius is what won the battle. And no, not Naruto and Bee, who were being held most of the time and being scared the other half. It wasn't 3 vs. 1. The attack to the core was solely Itachi.

Could he have done it on his own? Probably. Would he take that chance? No. He's tactical. If you have it, use it.

Itachi single-handedly stopped the shared vision, the statue and sealed Nagato. All the abilities that were so debated had become mute. What more do you need to prove it. Itachi's genius combined with the powerful techniques he has makes him the stronger ninja.

 

[laxus]

I just don't get it. Like I said, if you based your entire argument off of CT and it fails, what else can you say?

Itachi showed that he can think calmly in tight situations. He analyzed the situation (quicker than Shikamaru), came up with a strategy and utilized it. Followed up with another attack, sealing Nagato away forever. Face it, his genius is what won the battle. And no, not Naruto and Bee, who were being held most of the time and being scared the other half. It wasn't 3 vs. 1. The attack to the core was solely Itachi.

Could he have done it on his own? Probably. Would he take that chance? No. He's tactical. If you have it, use it.

Itachi single-handedly stopped the shared vision, the statue and sealed Nagato. All the abilities that were so debated had become mute. What more do you need to prove it. Itachi's genius combined with the powerful techniques he has makes him the stronger ninja.

what part of he was controlled do you not understand,he's doesn't think faster than shikamaru don't make up things.that sword can be absorbed he had regained his senses there no need to fight them no more.
yea naruto and bee weren't doing anything to actually win the battle.
how much lies can you make up when it took a tailed beast bomb with rasen shuriken with a susanno long range attack.
but if you really think itachi can beat chikabi by himself your insane.
no he didn't single handedly stop the vision becausse naruto and bee were attack nagato so itachi had time to do that so have fun with the lies you make up.
actually pain is smart in battle tatics if you watch when he goes to konoha he's analyzes abilities.

 

[ReLax -]

what part of he was controlled do you not understand,he's doesn't think faster than shikamaru don't make up things.that sword can be absorbed he had regained his senses there no need to fight them no more.
yea naruto and bee weren't doing anything to actually win the battle.
how much lies can you make up when it took a tailed beast bomb with rasen shuriken with a susanno long range attack.
but if you really think itachi can beat chikabi by himself your insane.
no he didn't single handedly stop the vision becausse naruto and bee were attack nagato so itachi had time to do that so have fun with the lies you make up.
actually pain is smart in battle tatics if you watch when he goes to konoha he's analyzes abilities.

Than quit complaining.

Yes, he was controlled by Kabuto, either way none of you Nagato fans will give credit to Itachi, instead the whole time it's about him being controlled. If Naruto/Bee weren't there Itachi took him, one on one same thing he was controlled. Itachi no matter what will never be given a victory but neither is Nagato.
Nagato = Failed capturing Naruto/Bee

Itachi = Passed (protected them and sealed Nagato)

 

[Izanami]

Im not that big of a fan of Itachi but i agree

Anyone saying that a guy who was considered a God in the manga destroyed konoha in one move and captured the 9 tails by himself isnt stronger then itachi is a retard or a fanboy take your pick.

Than quit complaining.

Yes, he was controlled by Kabuto, either way none of you Nagato fans will give credit to Itachi, instead the whole time it's about him being controlled. If Naruto/Bee weren't there Itachi took him, one on one same thing he was controlled. Itachi no matter what will never be given a victory but neither is Nagato.
Nagato = Failed capturing Naruto/Bee

Itachi = Passed (protected them and sealed Nagato)

Nagato being controlled by a noob took on the 3 powerful ninja and would of killed them all or captured them all without help from one another couple of facts for you there