[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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Just let this end already U_U

Let itachis fanbois think itachi is stronger and the rest of NB think nagato is

Shit is getting anoying now

Both are strong both can beat each other, no one wins 100%

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And we have yet to see if any Edo summons have chakra limits,

Itachi is well know for his shity stamina yet so far he has use all his Ms jutsu's, susanoo and a new powerful long range attack that most probably take up a huge amount of chakra aswell.

and yet itachi hasn't shown signs of being tired at all, that makes me think Edo summons have no chakra limit

If thats true then your "saving chakra" facts aint as factual as you claim

If i am wrong, please link the manga showing me and not just saying i am wrong

well if u read the manga than u know iwr does not require chakra accourding to kabutomaru anyway
 

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well i agree on the senju dna also nagato is a uzumaki and if nagato is some how related to naruto not sure if this is true but nagato has the senju dna he might not have the uchiha dna but that does not mean nagato can't break out of tsukiyomi (not saying he can't or can) but theres a chance that he might be able to i mean he defeated hanzu he almost killed naruto thx to hinata he survived and he almost finished kb on the latest chapter (remember naruto still saving chakra) is not save to say who is stronger but i do agree with u that itachi has the most powerfull tsukiyomi even that jutsu has a weakness is just no ninja has ever really discoverd the weakness and also i agree that only an uchiha can break out of tsukiyomi but it would have to b a very skillful uchiha like sasuke and in nagato's case is still unknown dude

yes i know this already i know u need another source of chakra the reason y naruto can not get out of genjutsu is because he is lame at it if he knew how he would b able to so far only kb is able to get out of it and yes i agree that just bc the user has a bunch of chakra does not mean he can not get out of genjutsu which i agree with u both but i just feel like theres a ninja who can break out of tsukiyomi if that certain shinobi knows all about it and prevent itself from being caught in that tsukiyomi

yea you are right u don't have to be an uchiha to escape the genjutsu but its unlikely(but possible) but more likely than not he can't do it on the lvl of itachi's tsukiyomi especially but i still do agree there is a possibilty.


the ninja who can probably beat a tsukiyomi is hashirama senju he was the man who beat madara with ems who was even able to control the fox with his sharingan, so obviously madara used high lvl genjutsu on hashirama during the fight so i am pretty sure since he beat madara he could definitely beat genjutsu from the uchiha.
 
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people were talking about nagato who has all the elements

WE know.

Ninjutsu techniques and physical techniques puts you at a Disadvantage fighting Itachi. YOu need to have atleast some type of Sharingan to place some resistant towards itachi's Genjutsu abiities. Because Itachi IS gonna use Genjutsu of course.

Dont underestimate the extent of Genjutsu like itachi's:
It can make things appear real. Ex.( When Sasuke made it appear as if Danzou eye was still open" Danzou had multiple sharingans And didnt even know he was in a Genjutsu. SO how would Nagato know anything especially since he has NO sharingan
 

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Just let this end already U_U

Let itachis fanbois think itachi is stronger and the rest of NB think nagato is

Shit is getting anoying now

Both are strong both can beat each other, no one wins 100%

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And we have yet to see if any Edo summons have chakra limits,

Itachi is well know for his shity stamina yet so far he has use all his Ms jutsu's, susanoo and a new powerful long range attack that most probably take up a huge amount of chakra aswell.

and yet itachi hasn't shown signs of being tired at all, that makes me think Edo summons have no chakra limit

If thats true then your "saving chakra" facts aint as factual as you claim

If i am wrong, please link the manga showing me and not just saying i am wrong

I said counter all my facts and d reason why Itachi had such low stamina is cos he was always sick evrytime we saw him in Naruto except 4 Edo form.
 

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This is like saying reningan < sharingan which is WRONG...…nagato got sealed because he came to his sense and itachi needed naruto and bee and if you say that itachi's move was strong enough to stop chika tensei than provide a link to a manga page where states it that and if you can't than you are wrong and nagato IS better than itachi…THE END U_U
 
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yea you are right u don't have to be an uchiha to escape the genjutsu but its unlikely(but possible) but more likely than not he can't do it on the lvl of itachi's tsukiyomi especially but i still do agree there is a possibilty.


the ninja who can probably beat a tsukiyomi is hashirama senju he was the man who beat madara with ems who was even able to control the fox with his sharingan, so obviously madara used high lvl genjutsu on hashirama during the fight so i am pretty sure since he beat madara he could definitely beat genjutsu from the uchiha.

yes i agree which brings the fact that senju hashirama had more chakra then any other ninja who knows how he broke free because he does not seem hashirama had any other source of chakra... (i wonder if he had kekkie genkai) oh another thing now that we both agree that u do not have to be an uchiha to get out of tsukiyomi is possible that nagato can to and kb but as for naruto i kind of doubt it but hey who knows right lol
 

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yes i agree which brings the fact that senju hashirama had more chakra then any other ninja who knows how he broke free because he does not seem hashirama had any other source of chakra... (i wonder if he had kekkie genkai) oh another thing now that we both agree that u do not have to be an uchiha to get out of tsukiyomi is possible that nagato can to and kb but as for naruto i kind of doubt it but hey who knows right lol

WE do not know anything 'bout Hashirama so we can't come up with conclusions
 

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This is like saying reningan < sharingan which is WRONG...…nagato got sealed because he came to his sense and itachi needed naruto and bee and if you say that itachi's move was strong enough to stop chika tensei than provide a link to a manga page where states it that and if you can't than you are wrong and nagato IS better than itachi…THE END U_U

long time no talk man how u been?

yea i agree with u considering u r a itachi fan i am glad u not a defender of your own fav character lol but i do have to disagree with u a bit dude itachi is strong not just strong but he is able to tell anyones weaknesses
 

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WHERE WAS that STATED? And does dat mean d person summoned doesn't use chakra 2 perform jutsus

dude do not even bother with me ok i read the whole entire manga i had to re read the manga to catch u to ppl that actually make sense of the manga and i do not need to prove it to u just look it up yourself
 

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yes i agree which brings the fact that senju hashirama had more chakra then any other ninja who knows how he broke free because he does not seem hashirama had any other source of chakra... (i wonder if he had kekkie genkai) oh another thing now that we both agree that u do not have to be an uchiha to get out of tsukiyomi is possible that nagato can to and kb but as for naruto i kind of doubt it but hey who knows right lol

True but until Itachi is proven wrong........Only an uchiha can escape it We havent seen anyone else escape it, even a Sharingan user couldn't (kakashi)

But we don't know if Madara had Tsukiyomi. madara prolly had his own Genjutsu, and harashirama was able to counter it.
But itachi said " His Tsukiyomi was a Special Jutsu and can be countered by certain ppl. No one has proven itachi wrong Yet
 

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yes i agree which brings the fact that senju hashirama had more chakra then any other ninja who knows how he broke free because he does not seem hashirama had any other source of chakra... (i wonder if he had kekkie genkai) oh another thing now that we both agree that u do not have to be an uchiha to get out of tsukiyomi is possible that nagato can to and kb but as for naruto i kind of doubt it but hey who knows right lol

WE do not know anything 'bout Hashirama so we can't come up with conclusions

nagato might but is alow chance he has not been trained in genjutsu very much and does not hve the ezxperience like senju hashirama had and hashirama might have had something else that allowed him to get out of genjutsu not necessarily his chakra. having a big chakra source does not make you immune to genjutsu but there are other ways and its very likely that hashirama knos how to beat high lvl genjutsu which is likely becos he beat madara with ems but we cannot make the same assumption about nagato cos we hav seen all his abilities and nothing really suggest that he can break it but one thing is in naruto anything is possible.

Uzumaki sasuke yes we don't have enough info on him but he beat madara with ems who had genjutsu strong enough to control the fox, so since hashirama beat him he is very likely to have a counter for high lvl genjutsu but we can't say the same thing for Nagato though since he has shown no ability to be immune to genjutsu and was also caught by jiraya's genjutsu.
 

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long time no talk man how u been?

yea i agree with u considering u r a itachi fan i am glad u not a defender of your own fav character lol but i do have to disagree with u a bit dude itachi is strong not just strong but he is able to tell anyones weaknesses
Lol it has and well he with info naruto provided...and I got so sick and tired of this itachi fanboys just popping up after the last chapter and the stupidest thing I heard was itachi has surpassed the 4th lol that was funny as HELL....and right now they are saying he is stronger than nagato which sooo stupid
 

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This is like saying reningan < sharingan which is WRONG...…nagato got sealed because he came to his sense and itachi needed naruto and bee and if you say that itachi's move was strong enough to stop chika tensei than provide a link to a manga page where states it that and if you can't than you are wrong and nagato IS better than itachi…THE END U_U


If u notice Page 14 of d last Chapter u wud see dat Nagato was surprised due 2 d exclamation mark placed beside him when he was pierced by Totsuka blade. Edo Tensei full puppets only come back 2 their senses when they are about 2 b sealed or binded. Why wud Kabuto let him go if he saw the sword coming?
 

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True but until Itachi is proven wrong........Only an uchiha can escape it We havent seen anyone else escape it, even a Sharingan user couldn't (kakashi)

But we don't know if Madara had Tsukiyomi. madara prolly had his own Genjutsu, and harashirama was able to counter it.
But itachi said " His Tsukiyomi was a Special Jutsu and can be countered by certain ppl. No one has proven itachi wrong Yet

yes agree no one has encounter it yet and agree that we do not know if madara had tsukiyomi but he had izangi not sure wich is stronger but if true that madara had ems then maybe he was able to use tsukiyomi and in kakashi's case he was not prepare but yea i do agree that kakashi can't break out of itachi's tsukiyomi but i do think kakashi is kind of like an uchiha he is very skillful on usin his ms.... i really wanna c a ninja break out of itachi's tsukiyomi
 

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This is like saying reningan < sharingan which is WRONG...…nagato got sealed because he came to his sense and itachi needed naruto and bee and if you say that itachi's move was strong enough to stop chika tensei than provide a link to a manga page where states it that and if you can't than you are wrong and nagato IS better than itachi…THE END U_U

That was NOTHING but an Opinion..............U_U

Ok Nagato is better to you...but itachi has more feats and reason and a better chance at "Beating" Nagato in a fight.

Dosent matter who's better or what you call "Stronger" Itachi clearly has the advantage at winning.

Like i said before, UNTIL it states that Nagato is Resistant to GEnjutsu.Itachi wins, plain and simple. Tell me what wil nagato do if he's trapped in ITachis Genjutsu.......huh Nothing, because he would be killed while he's in a Genjutsu, (If it was a real battle) it takes time to even get out of a Genjutsu anyway
 

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Lol it has and well he with info naruto provided...and I got so sick and tired of this itachi fanboys just popping up after the last chapter and the stupidest thing I heard was itachi has surpassed the 4th lol that was funny as HELL....and right now they are saying he is stronger than nagato which sooo stupid

Pls give us cold hard facts why Nagato is better than Itachi
 

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This is like saying reningan < sharingan which is WRONG...…nagato got sealed because he came to his sense and itachi needed naruto and bee and if you say that itachi's move was strong enough to stop chika tensei than provide a link to a manga page where states it that and if you can't than you are wrong and nagato IS better than itachi…THE END U_U

dude rinnegan is not an instant win and nagato does not really have complete fully powered rinnegan becos he has no senju or uchiha dna which means he cannot use Izangi or genjustu he is only one path of the six paths he is not invincible and a better KG does not mean a win we have seen many times when a person with a better KG losing to one who is more skilled or smart.
 
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