[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[JakeLife510]

I put it like this.
Nagato freaking powerfull ass shinobi with powerful moves and super chakra. But what he lacks is the intelligence, strategy and speed that Itachi is capable of.

Im sure yo all saw how easily Amaterasu did work to Nagato. Plus if they fought it would still be raggid old can barely walk Nagato. Plus the Speed of Sussano demolished Nagato's arms. Imagine if he wasn't trying to save Naruto and Bee and Sussano pimp smack Nagato.

Let's Face it. Itachi killed Nagato 3 times.
1. Amaterasu
2. Sussano (instead of saving Bee and Naruto with Arms went forthe kill)
3. Totsuka Blade.
I mean Manga proved he can do all of that to Nagato, that is enough for me. Who says he couldn't do it agin?

I am not an Itachi Fan Boy or Nagato. I respect Nagato's power and Itachi's intelligence.

 

[Inception]

Notice how Itachi blinded all other eyes that Nagato used (summon + naraka eye). He knew about the Rinnegan is what I get from his moves.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

I put it like this.
Nagato freaking powerfull ass shinobi with powerful moves and super chakra. But what he lacks is the intelligence, strategy and speed that Itachi is capable of.

Im sure yo all saw how easily Amaterasu did work to Nagato. Plus if they fought it would still be raggid old can barely walk Nagato. Plus the Speed of Sussano demolished Nagato's arms. Imagine if he wasn't trying to save Naruto and Bee and Sussano pimp smack Nagato.

Let's Face it. Itachi killed Nagato 3 times.
1. Amaterasu ( Kabuto wasn't controlling him to listen to Itachi & Naruto )
2. Sussano (instead of saving Bee and Naruto with Arms went forthe kill) ( He wouldn't even get the chance to backstab Nagato , if Bee & Naruto weren't there,his full concentration will be at Itachi )
3. Totsuka Blade. ( He would've been already crushed by Chibaku Tensei if it wasn't for Bee & Naruto )
I mean Manga proved he can do all of that to Nagato, that is enough for me. Who says he couldn't do it agin?

I am not an Itachi Fan Boy or Nagato. I respect Nagato's power and Itachi's intelligence.

Correct me if I am wrong

 

[JakeLife510]

Correct me if I am wrong

I understand but what I'm trying to get at is that if he can do that, he can do it again.

 

[arv993]

Correct me if I am wrong

dude chibaku tensei won't work on itachi twice if that is what u are suggesting, Itachi's sword of totsuka can seal him faster than chibaku tensei working on Itachi. and he can block any attack thrown by nagato, itachi has the advantage in his speed, speed of attacks(sword of totsuka) , ability to analyze attacks, and a well gives him the edge in the matach

 

[Kisa]

The problem I have is that Pain has the Rinnegan witch mean that he has the ability to know all jutsus....the 6 justsu that were use were the jutsus from the bodies of the dead ninja that he was controlling...so why didnt he use any new jutsu in the fight.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

dude chibaku tensei won't work on itachi twice if that is what u are suggesting, Itachi's sword of totsuka can seal him faster than chibaku tensei working on Itachi. and he can block any attack thrown by nagato, itachi has the advantage in his speed, speed of attacks(sword of totsuka) , ability to analyze attacks, and a well gives him the edge in the matach

yea i agree but at the same time i dont because yea dude

 

[arv993]

yea i agree but at the same time i dont because yea dude

u agree but don't at the same time what do u mean.

 

[psukkar]

dude chibaku tensei won't work on itachi twice if that is what u are suggesting, Itachi's sword of totsuka can seal him faster than chibaku tensei working on Itachi. and he can block any attack thrown by nagato, itachi has the advantage in his speed, speed of attacks(sword of totsuka) , ability to analyze attacks, and a well gives him the edge in the matach

I was willign to just read ur posts but now ur just annoying me.

Tell me if itachi had time just use the sword, why did itachi bother thinking of way to stop chika tensei first? The answers is obvios. And they were airbone while this was all happening. Chika tensei if recall works pretty fast, U cant just cant sit there. The fox couldnt even evade it.

And secondly, itachi alone could not have stopped chika tensei. I would have though a tailed beast bomb and a wind rasengan also used against it, makes it pretty obiovs he needed help.

And may I remind everyone why you need such force to deal with chika tensei. Nagato used this to stop the nine tails and the so6p used this against the juubi. IF you think a mere sassano can withstand that your just a deluated and dont like giving credit when its due.

Nagato simply put is beast, and this just proves how powerful the rinnegan truly is, with all those HAXXED abiltyies in one. Which by the way is one of the main reasons why is regarded as the strongest eye and why madara wanted it.

And another think nagato was being controled by a noob called kabuto so you put the tactics in this fight towards kabuto. Nagato isnt a dodo, and was able to take on konoha by himself. IF he just made nagato use shinra tensei while they were attacking his choka tensei things would taken a big turn to the worst.

And another thing, people need to stop saying that the legendary weapons itachi has are a part of sassano's powers. Itachi found these weapons.They are not part of MS and there more than evidence that says this.


And anothet thing, itachi confirmed soemthing that didnt need to be confrimed, that iven trying to repeat over and over.THAT NO JUTSU IS UNBEATABLE. It goes both ways, so fanboys even you beloved itachi said that no jutsu is unbeatable that includes the "sharingan techniques".

 

[arv993]

I was willign to just read ur posts but now ur just annoying me.

Tell me if itachi had time just use the sword, why did itachi bother thinking of way to stop chika tensei first? The answers is obvios. And they were airbone while this was all happening. Chika tensei if recall works pretty fast, U cant just cant sit there. The fox couldnt even evade it.

And secondly, itachi alone could not have stopped chika tensei. I would have though a tailed beast bomb and a wind rasengan also used against it, makes it pretty obiovs he needed help.

And may I remind everyone why you need such force to deal with chika tensei. Nagato used this to stop the nine tails and the so6p used this against the juubi. IF you think a mere sassano can withstand that your just a deluated and dont like giving credit when its due.

Nagato simply put is beast, and this just proves how powerful the rinnegan truly is, with all those HAXXED abiltyies in one. Which by the way is one of the main reasons why is regarded as the strongest eye and why madara wanted it.

And another think nagato was being controled by a noob called kabuto so you put the tactics in this fight towards kabuto. Nagato isnt a dodo, and was able to take on konoha by himself. IF he just made nagato use shinra tensei while they were attacking his choka tensei things would taken a big turn to the worst.

And another thing, people need to stop saying that the legendary weapons itachi has are a part of sassano's powers. Itachi found these weapons.They are not part of MS and there more than evidence that says this.


And anothet thing, itachi confirmed soemthing that didnt need to be confrimed, that iven trying to repeat over and over.THAT NO JUTSU IS UNBEATABLE. It goes both ways, so fanboys even you beloved itachi said that no jutsu is unbeatable that includes the "sharingan techniques".

dude the reason why he didn't use the sword is becos the first primary thing he had to do was save naruto and bee, if he was a second or too late naruto would have had his soul taken out and after wards they were away from him. And did u realize just from the force of just susano pretty much blew his arms away and he regenerated becos of edo tensei allowing him to do chibaku tensei. you did not read my posts properly, I said in a 1v1 battle where itachi has info he can win becos he knos about chibaku tensei and can attack him with sword of totsuka a fast attack(faster than a chibaku tensei so he can finish him off b4 him trying to use chibaku tensei) and can seal him and defend with his yata mirror against nagato's attacks. And remember that yata mirror can block attacks so shinra tensei is not really gonna affect him and also where the hell did it say that Itachi found all the legendary weapons, i don't recall it saying that. And it can be said to nagato also that madara gave him the rinnegan so its not really his own power. yes all techs have weaknesses and that applies not only to Itachi but Nagato as well. Itachi has the advantage in speed of his attacks, ability to quickly come up with counter strategies and also have a great defense, so I say he has an edge in a 1v1 fight against nagato with info(he did not kno about chibaku tensei and did not kno its powers thus him not using the sword of totsuka immediately. and dude stop calling others fanboys my fav character is not itachi(all it is that i can see him winning against nagato with info), i am not accusing of u being a pain lover or anything so just make rational arguments and be done with it.

 

[DarkPein12]

nagato fans any last words

 

[Honord Sage]

Hav u seen it??!! All u Nagato fans now know that Itachi is stronger than Nagato. He even destroyed Chikudan Tensei by using Yasaka's Magatama. His strongest long range. The best part was how he handled d situation with calmness and came up with an effective counter. Itachi is d best. Nagato fans u just hav 2 agree that he is better than Nagato. Itachi rules!!!

Stop being delusional it took 3 people to stop Nagato that a fact and in the end Nagato look at Naruto as if to say Naruto has yet to reach His full potential, so more growth and power is still to be revealed from Naruto.

 

[Blackcrush0]

K I'm not going to put my opinion into this so I'm going to use some transitive relation. Itachi stated that even with the help of Kisame, the best that the two of them could do against Jiraiya would be a stalemate. And well as much as it pains me (no pun intended) to relive it, Pain killed Jiraiya.

 

[kadowade]

K I'm not going to put my opinion into this so I'm going to use some transitive relation. Itachi stated that even with the help of Kisame, the best that the two of them could do against Jiraiya would be a stalemate. And well as much as it pains me (no pun intended) to relive it, Pain killed Jiraiya.

Kisame said" YOu certainly have a chance" But i probably dont"

And he didnt fight him because it wouldve been a war, if the village found out AKATSUKI was FIGHTING Jiraiya. (And if u read manga) Itachi hated war & was a Pasifist. Thats why he didnt kill kakashi (Kakashi even said "Why didn't he just kill me" He couldve just killed me") watch episode 82 part 1.
He even tried to avoid fighting Kureani And Asuma, but they just wouldnt step off, so itachi knew they wasent gonna let them leave, so he had to hold his own against them.

And he couldnt fight jiraiya otherwise he wouldve Had to use MAngekyou and since he was already sick, he couldnt just use all his techniques and risk losing his sight. He wouldve went More blind and sicker,. He had to keep his body up to par until his long-awaited Destined dream To die fighting sasuke

Jiraiya wouldve probably pressured him to use Mangekyou, therefore worsening itachi's sickness and Eye Sight.
Itachi saying somethin bout stalemate was a pitiful excuse to avoid a war. He defnatly didn't want to Kill any leaf ninja since he loved the village. And he wanted To "Preserve his Eyes"

 

[Blackcrush0]

Yeah my bad I didn't start reading manga until late Shippuden when I ran out of anime to watch so I never saw that Kisame line. However the second half of your post is not true, Itachi used his Mangekyo on Kakashi, the woman that distracted Jiraiya, on Sasuke, and to escape the toad stomach. He did not use it sparingly and was probably not as sick at the time remember there is about a 3-4 year difference between that and his death.

 

[Blackcrush0]

Kisame said" YOu certainly have a chance" But i probably dont"

And he didnt fight him because it wouldve been a war, if the village found out AKATSUKI was FIGHTING Jiraiya. (And if u read manga) Itachi hated war & was a Pasifist. Thats why he didnt kill kakashi (Kakashi even said "Why didn't he just kill me" He couldve just killed me") watch episode 82 part 1.
He even tried to avoid fighting Kureani And Asuma, but they just wouldnt step off, so itachi knew they wasent gonna let them leave, so he had to hold his own against them.

And he couldnt fight jiraiya otherwise he wouldve Had to use MAngekyou and since he was already sick, he couldnt just use all his techniques and risk losing his sight. He wouldve went More blind and sicker,. He had to keep his body up to par until his long-awaited Destined dream To die fighting sasuke

Jiraiya wouldve probably pressured him to use Mangekyou, therefore worsening itachi's sickness and Eye Sight.
Itachi saying somethin bout stalemate was a pitiful excuse to avoid a war. He defnatly didn't want to Kill any leaf ninja since he loved the village. And he wanted To "Preserve his Eyes"

You're saying Kisame + Itachi vs Jiraiya and Itachi would still have to use his Mangekyo, that's a testiment to Jiraiya's strength, which is a further testiment to my point that since Pain killed Jiraiya, Nagato is most likely stronger than Itachi.

 

[protentiality]

itachi is not stronger then nagato!

 

[Steinbiz]

itachi is not stronger then nagato!

yep, agreed

 

[yondaimeminato]

I was willign to just read ur posts but now ur just annoying me.

Tell me if itachi had time just use the sword, why did itachi bother thinking of way to stop chika tensei first? The answers is obvios. And they were airbone while this was all happening. Chika tensei if recall works pretty fast, U cant just cant sit there. The fox couldnt even evade it.

And secondly, itachi alone could not have stopped chika tensei. I would have though a tailed beast bomb and a wind rasengan also used against it, makes it pretty obiovs he needed help.

And may I remind everyone why you need such force to deal with chika tensei. Nagato used this to stop the nine tails and the so6p used this against the juubi. IF you think a mere sassano can withstand that your just a deluated and dont like giving credit when its due.

Nagato simply put is beast, and this just proves how powerful the rinnegan truly is, with all those HAXXED abiltyies in one. Which by the way is one of the main reasons why is regarded as the strongest eye and why madara wanted it.

And another think nagato was being controled by a noob called kabuto so you put the tactics in this fight towards kabuto. Nagato isnt a dodo, and was able to take on konoha by himself. IF he just made nagato use shinra tensei while they were attacking his choka tensei things would taken a big turn to the worst.

And another thing, people need to stop saying that the legendary weapons itachi has are a part of sassano's powers. Itachi found these weapons.They are not part of MS and there more than evidence that says this.


And anothet thing, itachi confirmed soemthing that didnt need to be confrimed, that iven trying to repeat over and over.THAT NO JUTSU IS UNBEATABLE. It goes both ways, so fanboys even you beloved itachi said that no jutsu is unbeatable that includes the "sharingan techniques".

compare Itachi's childhood with nagato's childhood to begin with. Itachi's way of doing things was far more advanced than anyone. Everyone in konoha and uchiha clan respected Itachi and called him a genius. Not because he had all the jutsus available to him. Not because he was able to awaken the sharingan at young age. Everyone is able to awaken sharingan if they put effort into doing it. It doesn't take a genius to awaken a sharingan. Itachi's leadership, way of behavior, thinking and the way he analyzes things is extremely good. At young age, he looked more matured than anyone else. He was taking care of sasuke when he was probably just five to six years old. At young age he looked calm and dangerous.

Nagato in the other hand, you can tell from his childhood. He was responsible for his parents death for creating a noise while trying to scape from those konoha ninjas. Nagato at young age was a cry baby. Maybe the word crybaby is a little too hard to say but Yahiko even called him a crybaby. He would always stay crying rather than to stay calm. He lacks leadership and in order to be a leader, you need to be able to make decisions and be smart. Yahiko was doing almost everything for him while he was hiding behind him. For example, when konan got kidnapped by Hanzou, Nagato couldn't think of anything. Yahiko had to make a decision for him. He lacks intelligence.

Trust me, kabuto controlling Nagato is a plus. Kabuto in a way is smart. Thus, the reason why Kabuto stayed alive for such a long time. Kabuto even made madara to accept him to help him with the war. Madara even acknowledges him. I don't think it would have been any different if nagato wasn't being controlled by kabuto.

Once again, A LOT OF PEOPLE make this mistake of thinking that just because you the most powerful attacks you are going to win. It's not like this at least not in naruto. Minato was able to defeat Madara with two jutsus. Rasengan and FTG. Madara was able to make his body intangible, teleport and take people to other dimension but he was defeated by Minato because minato came up with a strategy far superior than madara. Minato studied madara first until he found what he was relying most at. Madara was trying to touch Minato so that he can send minato to another dimension. This was Madara's goal. Minato found out about this and came up with a counter strategy. Afterwards in a matter of seconds Minato came to be victorious.

Naruto is able to teleport away like yondaime minato but he doesn't have the mental intelligence of his father to be able to come up with strategies and make the best of his powers.

Bee, rushes nagato like a fool thinking that with his transformed form would beat nagato. Bee rushes without thinking and he almost dies.

This is what seperates Itachi and Minato from the rest. Their ability to make the best of their techniques. They don't have to be extremely strong techniques but they can get the best of them and they can THINK and find weakness of the opponents and stay ten steps ahead of them.

 

[naruto kyuubi]

really if itachis jutsu was that strong why did he require futon rasenshuriken and tailed beast bomb the strongest jutsu of a jinchuriki