[Theory] Final techniques of Geniuses (prediction)

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Arjun is not incarnation of Vishnu- Krishna is. Arjun is just a human and that's it.

Shiva is not a "she". he represents the Male. His wife Parvati represents the Female supreme power. She is also known as "Shakti". She is a goddess in her own might and gets equal respect and represents the mother goddess. those who prefer god in females form worship her. She is also known in different forms as Durga, kali, Sarswati, Lakshmi, Gauri, etc.

Yes Shiva has three eyes. He keeps the third one closed.Moon and snakes and spirits are associated with him. He is of benevolent nature and doesn't get angry easily. but once he is angry and opends the third eye- it's just destruction and the person or object targetted is just turned to ashes or totally destroyed.

Sorry, not Arjuna,Krishna is Krishna there...

Gender does depend on who you talk about.. yeah, female for d sake of being practical (Brahma), (Shiva)male, and something in between (Vishnu)...

will madara try to become something like shiva??
madara already has 2 of the 3 legendary doujutsus, maybe if he manages to get the byakugan as his third eye??

it sounds logical to me.....

remember when he was tobi and only had sharingan?? (his mask only had one eye hole)
THEN LATER

when he got rinnegan (he got 2 eye holes)
AND WHAT ABOUT

if he gets byakugan (3 eye holes)

and since he has three eyes it can be related to shiva's appearance and powers

this is sooo cool.. yeha, might be...mythology cocktail
 
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Sorry, not Arjuna,Krishna is Krishna there...

Gender does depend on who you talk about.. yeah, female for d sake of being practical (Brahma), (Shiva)male, and something in between (Vishnu)...

WTH

I think when you are talking about somebody else's belief system you should be a bit more respectful. Hindu mythology is intricate, self sufficient and quite vast. No need to fit it in your idea of how it should be. Besides, you do not have sufficient knowledge to decide the need of practicality.


Brahma is not female either and Vishnu is not counted as someone in between.
Hindy belief has plenty of space for female power- There is Shakt sect for it. Goddess Kali, Goddess Durga Goddess Tara etc are there if someone wants female deity. She is either treated as equal or better. Do not feminize male god symbols for Her.

In fact, when the gods fail to solve a problem they go to goddess for help. Rama, believed to be incarnation of Vishnu, worshipped Goddess Durga ( Famous Shakti Puja) before his battle with Asura king Ravana.

Goddess Kali appeared when Gods were unable to face another Asura Raktbeej. She fought him for them. After the fight She was still too angry so they asked lord Shiva's help to calm her. Shiva went but he didnt fight her excatly. She was supposed to be incarnation of His wife Parvati (benevolent one) especially to fight Raktbeej. So He just lay down in Her path. When She was walking angrily it's said that She stepped on him. She looked down and saw who was there; she was taken aback and calmed down.

There are plenty of discussions in Hindu philosophy over the topic of God's form etc. God is He or She is not a new debate/idea among HIndus. The concept never died. Hinduism never completely rejects any ideology. It starts from polytheism and turns into monotheism. From symbolism and idol worship to quite abstract and philosophical. It compromises and assimmilates the different concepts. - that's how it survived for centuries.
 
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WTH

I think when you are talking about somebody else's belief system you should be a bit more respectful. Hindu mythology is intricate, self sufficient and quite vast. No need to fit it in your idea of how it should be. Besides, you do not have sufficient knowledge to decide the need of practicality.


Brahma is not female either and Vishnu is not counted as someone in between.
Hindy belief has plenty of space for female power- There is Shakt sect for it. Goddess Kali, Goddess Durga Goddess Tara etc are there if someone wants female deity. She is either treated as equal or better. Do not feminize male god symbols for Her.

In fact, when the gods fail to solve a problem they go to goddess for help. Rama, believed to be incarnation of Vishnu, worshipped Goddess Durga ( Famous Shakti Puja) before his battle with Asura king Ravana.

Goddess Kali appeared when Gods were unable to face another Asura Raktbeej. She fought him for them. After the fight She was still too angry so they asked lord Shiva's help to calm her. Shiva went but he didnt fight her excatly. She was supposed to be incarnation of His wife Parvati (benevolent one) especially to fight Raktbeej. So He just lay down in Her path. When She was walking angrily it's said that She stepped on him. She looked down and saw who was there; she was taken aback and calmed down.

There are plenty of discussions in Hindu philosophy over the topic of God's form etc. God is He or She is not a new debate/idea among HIndus. The concept never died. Hinduism never completely rejects any ideology. It starts from polytheism and turns into monotheism. From symbolism and idol worship to quite abstract and philosophical. It compromises and assimmilates the different concepts. - that's how it survived for centuries.

exactly......
 

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maybe...not sure still
 

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ha castiel your a genius. i love reading theories/posts like this! its been a while as most are generally the same stuff re-written with not enough imagination/thought over whats being said :D

im really curious to see how close to the truth you really are with this because i believe your on to a winner with this theory. makes sense...​
 

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Glad i can help u out man
i also think some of the rokkie 11 attacks come out from here
 

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Glad i can help u out man
i also think some of the rokkie 11 attacks come out from here

rookie11!! :shrug:

I was not attacking.. The claim of corrections for practicality and playing with somebody else's faith- that bit was somewhat irritating.

Hinduism is older than thousand of years ( at least 12,000 BP old) culture and religion. It's mature enough to take care of practicality itself.



 
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WTH

I think when you are talking about somebody else's belief system you should be a bit more respectful. Hindu mythology is intricate, self sufficient and quite vast. No need to fit it in your idea of how it should be. Besides, you do not have sufficient knowledge to decide the need of practicality.


Brahma is not female either and Vishnu is not counted as someone in between.
Hindy belief has plenty of space for female power- There is Shakt sect for it. Goddess Kali, Goddess Durga Goddess Tara etc are there if someone wants female deity. She is either treated as equal or better. Do not feminize male god symbols for Her.

In fact, when the gods fail to solve a problem they go to goddess for help. Rama, believed to be incarnation of Vishnu, worshipped Goddess Durga ( Famous Shakti Puja) before his battle with Asura king Ravana.

Goddess Kali appeared when Gods were unable to face another Asura Raktbeej. She fought him for them. After the fight She was still too angry so they asked lord Shiva's help to calm her. Shiva went but he didnt fight her excatly. She was supposed to be incarnation of His wife Parvati (benevolent one) especially to fight Raktbeej. So He just lay down in Her path. When She was walking angrily it's said that She stepped on him. She looked down and saw who was there; she was taken aback and calmed down.

There are plenty of discussions in Hindu philosophy over the topic of God's form etc. God is He or She is not a new debate/idea among HIndus. The concept never died. Hinduism never completely rejects any ideology. It starts from polytheism and turns into monotheism. From symbolism and idol worship to quite abstract and philosophical. It compromises and assimmilates the different concepts. - that's how it survived for centuries.

You are the one putting on the suit of discussion. And yes I am respectful, whatever you`d like that to be, and if by any case you feel I wast, then sorry, for theology discussions brief to a theology forum.

regarding my interpreatation of hindu beliefs and applying into Naruto issues, I used them because Misashi Kishimoto isn`t the first neither isn`t going to be the last Jpaanese artist using them not as reference , but suirely as source of inspiration for what he is developing as the story of a manga.

for further reference, hit rinnegan references on google, so as Narutos training with Be and please be polite and clever enough, as on to check the statues Bee pointed out Naruto before and during their training. be kind enough to analyze the shape and order of them, adn if you have enough knowledge(visual) relate them to obvious hindu handcrafts.

Getting to the gender issue..

Aware that believers so as newly introduced herds to Hindu theology, might find confusing my brief scheming of the earlier, meditate, about the constant emphasis in which the Indina Continent religion puts on balance. Being this into taken further all the way to their main Gods. And gender assumption.

Sorry, by kno I haven`t checked yet the underskirts of gthe earlier mentioned, but I know as a fact, that however you wish to call your game, academically speaking, gids do have gender, so forth they apply into them the same universal laws (according tio believers) given to men.
Easy a guy, a girl, and something...

Very elemental Hindu theology yeah?

And yes, I am nothing but a souless Western who has in fact read all the books Hindus love to quote, but usually have never read, so I feel confident enough to give a brief explanation of their cosmology from a somehow objective view.

Yes I do have the knowledge, so forth i chose to be practical.

By the way, dunno if u knew but Arjuna was thought to be also an incarnation of Krishna, that means Vishnu. Actually all of the classic epic male characters are (to be thought of as krishnas, encarnations of vishnu)

why?

because looong time ago, Krishna wasn`t thought about as a god, but as a title, sucha as emperor, or wise man, or holy man... peple say Krishna was a man teaching women herbs knowledge around India having them as consorts and apprentices

that`s just a tale for you.. the thing is India stopped producing new literature so instead of having 3 Krishnas, or Vishnus, you ended up having 60 mediocre male role model characters to tag as deity, so people, being PRACTICAL gave Rama the incarnation of Vishnu title and leftvthwe others without further quote

Up to know, most holy men in India love calling themselves descendants od that guy.. without knowing, it isn`t a title about the gene pool, but moral value.


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veggetta13 said:
You are the one putting on the suit of discussion. And yes I am respectful, whatever you`d like that to be, and if by any case you feel I wast, then sorry, for theology discussions brief to a theology forum.

regarding my interpreatation of hindu beliefs and applying into Naruto issues, I used them because Misashi Kishimoto isn`t the first neither isn`t going to be the last Jpaanese artist using them not as reference , but suirely as source of inspiration for what he is developing as the story of a manga.

for further reference, hit rinnegan references on google, so as Narutos training with Be and please be polite and clever enough, as on to check the statues Bee pointed out Naruto before and during their training. be kind enough to analyze the shape and order of them, adn if you have enough knowledge(visual) relate them to obvious hindu handcrafts.

What's has that got to do anything what I said? Budhist philosophy has roots in India so similarities in symbolism and myths are going to concide anyway.



Getting to the gender issue..

Aware that believers so as newly introduced herds to Hindu theology, might find confusing my brief scheming of the earlier, meditate, about the constant emphasis in which the Indina Continent religion puts on balance. Being this into taken further all the way to their main Gods. And gender assumption.

Maybe it's just me but, that part in italics is not clear. Are you implying that I'm one of newly introduced herd or something and ... what?


Sorry, by kno I haven`t checked yet the underskirts of gthe earlier mentioned, but I know as a fact, that however you wish to call your game, academically speaking, gids do have gender, so forth they apply into them the same universal laws (according tio believers) given to men.
Easy a guy, a girl, and something...

Again it's not really clear what do you want to say. The concept of god is symbolic. A Hindu doesn't need the Idol as a must. They would get other symbols to use and would simply replace the idol with it and carry on worshipping. The image makes it easier to concentrate. And the way they imagine a form, they don't like your corrections and intrusions in it.

But if you must check underskirt in your own words ( Again negates your claim of having read Hinduism) you will be surprised- just use Google more efficiently and without prejudice.

At this time your statement is not only disrespectful but, also ridiculous. It is simply none of your business to dictate others how they should have chosen their belief and insist on arguing over it.


Very elemental Hindu theology yeah?

And yes, I am nothing but a souless Western who has in fact read all the books Hindus love to quote, but usually have never read, so I feel confident enough to give a brief explanation of their cosmology from a somehow objective view.Yes I do have the knowledge, so forth i chose to be practical.

Soul less western - Again these words make your bluff more and more apparant.

These are the words used by in West quite often due to Judeo-Christian concepts but, almost never by a traditional Hindu. In Hinduism everyone has a soul; including the bugs, the trees rivers.. So your saracastic claim is just silly.

Just because many Hindus do not study their books it does not mean you are free to exploit their lack of fanatism. Hinduism is not a single book religion. The whole life as a HIndu studying the philosophy is not enough.

Religion is very personal thing among Hindus and it's a way of life. It's not an organised system like middle eastern religions or the other newer sects of today. Spirituality gets more importance and it's just threaded in the culture.

Exactly how old are you to make such high claims when you are showing such little knowledge? Google is great but a 10 minute search doesn't mean you read it all.


By the way, dunno if u knew but Arjuna was thought to be also an incarnation of Krishna, that means Vishnu. Actually all of the classic epic male characters are (to be thought of as krishnas, encarnations of vishnu)

why?

Source please? I want an authentic one. BTW


because looong time ago, Krishna wasn`t thought about as a god, but as a title, sucha as emperor, or wise man, or holy man... peple say Krishna was a man teaching women herbs knowledge around India having them as consorts and apprentices

Yeah sure- now I know you are reading either a Communist site or a non-Hindu (most probably a proselytize site) . It's getting really annoying now as it is confirmed that you didn't bother to find a genuin source for imformation.


that`s just a tale for you.. the thing is India stopped producing new literature so instead of having 3 Krishnas, or Vishnus, you ended up having 60 mediocre male role model characters to tag as deity, so people, being PRACTICAL gave Rama the incarnation of Vishnu title and leftvthwe others without further quote

As for your tale - here is the archeaological evidence for the people whom you seem to think very important.

Submersion into the SeaAfter Krishna left the earth for Vaikunta,about 36 years after the Mahabharat War (3138 BC), and the major Yadava leaders were killed in disputes among themselves, Arjuna went to Dwarka to bring Krishna's grandsons and the Yadava wives to Hastinapur, to safety. After Arjuna left Dwarka, it was submerged into the sea. Following is the account given by Arjuna, found in the Mahabharata:

...imposed on it by nature. The sea rushed into the city. It coursed through the streets of the beautiful city. The sea covered up everything in the city. I saw the beautiful buildings becoming submerged one by one. In a matter of a few moments it was all over. The sea had now become as placid as a lake. There was no trace of the city. Dwaraka was just a name; just a memory.
The Vishnu Purana also mentions the submersion of Dwarka, stating

On the same day that Krishna departed from the earth the powerful dark-bodied Kali Age descended. The oceans rose and submerged the whole of Dwarka.
[edit] Recent archeological findings This section needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (February 2011)

Main article: Marine archaeology in the Gulf of Cambay

Sudama bows at the glimpse of Krishna's golden palace in Dwarka. ca 1775-1790 painting
Dwarakadheesh temple in present Dwarka city, believed to have been originally built by Lord Krishna's grandson, Vajranabha, over the hari-griha (Lord Krishna's residential place)On May 19, 2001, India's science and technology minister Murli Manohar Joshi announced the finding of ruins in the Gulf of Khambhat. The ruins, known as the Gulf of Khambhat Cultural Complex (GKCC), are located on the seabed of a nine-kilometer stretch off the coast of Gujarat province at a depth of about 40 m. The site was discovered by a team from the National Institute of Ocean Technology (NIOT) in December 2000 and investigated for six months with acoustic techniques.

A follow up investigation was conducted by the same institute in November 2001, which included dredging to recover artifacts. A round of further underwater explorations was made in the Gulf of Khambhat site by the NIOT team from 2003 to 2004, and the samples obtained of what was presumed to be pottery were sent to laboratories in Oxford, UK and Hannover, Germany, as well as several institutions within India, to be dated.

[edit] Bet DwarkaBet Dwarka is famous for its temples dedicated to Lord Krishna and is of great importance in the ancient Hindu tradition. It and other coastal sites have ample antiquities, mainly potsherds, suggesting maritime trade and commerce with the Mediterranean countries around the Christian era.[3] This flourishing harbor and religious capital is believed to have submerged under the sea after the Krishna left dwarka for vaikunth.[3]

A team of archeologists have carried out onshore and inter-tidal zone explorations and a few trial trenches were laid to trace a proper cultural sequence. The most potential sites, where a large number of antiquities were recovered are the sectors, Bet Dwarka-I, II, VI, and IX.

The findings of Bet Dwarka may be divided into two broad periods: Pre-historic period which includes a small seal of conch shell engraved with a three-headed animal motif,[4] two inscriptions, a copper fishhook and late Harappan pottery (circa 1700-1400 BC) and the Historical period consisting of coins and pottery. Onshore and inter-tidal zone explorations have indicated some kind of shoreline shifting around the Bet Dwarka island as a few sites get submerged during high tide.

Offshore explorations near present Bet Dwarka brought to light a number of stone anchors of different types that include triangular, grapnel and ring stones. They are made out of locally available rocks and their period may also be similar to those found at Dwarka and other places. Recently, Roman antiquities including shreds of amphorae and a lead ingot and lead anchors were found. There is also an indication of a shipwreck of Roman period in Bet Dwarka waters.

The archaeological explorations at Bet Dwarka Island have brought to light a large number of data on India’s external overseas trade and commerce with western countries. Recent findings at the Bet Dwarka have shown evidence of Indo-Roman trade. India had an active maritime trade with Rome from the fourth century BCE to 4th century CE. These findings would concentrate on the time period from the first century BCE to the 2nd century CE. The discovery of the amphoras in Bet Dwarka is significant in view of the maritime history of India in concerned. There are remains of seven amphoras from which a black encrustation can be seen. This ware was mainly used for exporting wine and olive oil from the Roman Empire; it is most likely that these were wine amphoras. The discovery of a large quantity of amphora sherds suggests that Bet Dwarka had international trade contact during the early centuries of the Christian era.[3] The findings present the possibility of a shipwreck in this area associated with Roman trade, though it is unlikely that the remains of the hull of the wreck survive.[3] Thus the presence of Roman amphoras show that Roman ships reached Bet Dwarka waters earlier than has been previously noted. These same archaeological findings along with anchors have indicated the existence of several ports, jetties and anchoring points along the west coast of Indian. Though there are no remains of an ancient jetty at Bet Dwarka, the presence of stone anchors in the intertidal one indicates that the high tide was effectively used for anchoring the boats.[5] The presence of a large number and variety of stone anchors in Bet Dwarka suggests that this was one of important ports in ancient times. The location of Bet Dwarka was favorable for safe anchorage in the past since it was protected from high waves and storms.

The proposal for the Dwarka museum, submitted by the MAU, involves laying a submarine acrylic tube through which visitors can view through glass windows the ruins of the city. The State Government of Gujarat and the Travel & Tourism Department of Gujarat are working on this proposal (for over two decades). When completed, it will be the first museum to be built under the sea


Up to know, most holy men in India love calling themselves descendants od that guy.. without knowing, it isn`t a title about the gene pool, but moral value.


That's what you assume.
 
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great debates listen guys there is no debate this thread is just to connect techniques to naruto realm

like rinnegan has to do with buddahism and hinduisim
SAmsara tech nique no one means no disrespect in the religion ........
 

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great debates listen guys there is no debate this thread is just to connect techniques to naruto realm

like rinnegan has to do with buddahism and hinduisim
SAmsara tech nique no one means no disrespect in the religion ........

I realise that. Sorry for the off topic post. But I couldn't let got the ridiculous statements given by the other guy unchallanged. and then he went on to claim he read all the books of Hinduism- blah.

I doubt Kishi is actively seeking Hindu myths. Buddhism kind of branched out from Hinduism. And early Buddhists were Hindus first.. so the tales and myths are common. The language used by buddhist was again the same so many words have Indian origin. Asura, Deva, Smasara, Chakra, (concept of chakra points comes from Yoga) all these are Sanskrit words directly from Hinduism.
 

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What's has that got to do anything what I said? Budhist philosophy has roots in India so similarities in symbolism and myths are going to concide anyway.





Maybe it's just me but, that part in italics is not clear. Are you implying that I'm one of newly introduced herd or something and ... what?




Again it's not really clear what do you want to say. The concept of god is symbolic. A Hindu doesn't need the Idol as a must. They would get other symbols to use and would simply replace the idol with it and carry on worshipping. The image makes it easier to concentrate. And the way they imagine a form, they don't like your corrections and intrusions in it.

But if you must check underskirt in your own words ( Again negates your claim of having read Hinduism) you will be surprised- just use Google more efficiently and without prejudice.

At this time your statement is not only disrespectful but, also ridiculous. It is simply none of your business to dictate others how they should have chosen their belief and insist on arguing over it.




Soul less western - Again these words make your bluff more and more apparant.

These are the words used by in West quite often due to Judeo-Christian concepts but, almost never by a traditional Hindu. In Hinduism everyone has a soul; including the bugs, the trees rivers.. So your saracastic claim is just silly.

Just because many Hindus do not study their books it does not mean you are free to exploit their lack of fanatism. Hinduism is not a single book religion. The whole life as a HIndu studying the philosophy is not enough.

Religion is very personal thing among Hindus and it's a way of life. It's not an organised system like middle eastern religions or the other newer sects of today. Spirituality gets more importance and it's just threaded in the culture.

Exactly how old are you to make such high claims when you are showing such little knowledge? Google is great but a 10 minute search doesn't mean you read it all.




Source please? I want an authentic one. BTW




Yeah sure- now I know you are reading either a Communist site or a non-Hindu (most probably a proselytize site) . It's getting really annoying now as it is confirmed that you didn't bother to find a genuin source for imformation.




As for your tale - here is the archeaological evidence for the people whom you seem to think very important.

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That's what you assume.


No, I haven`t read all of Hindu books, but yeah, I did read Gilgamesh, Mahabbarata, and Ramayana.

And what I feel is u try to look clever.

I already gave you reasons for my argument.


like it or not, You, there are 3 main pulses/energies in which Hindu religion divides matter male/female/mixture

female as in giving birth: Brahma
mixture as in nurturing/exhausting: Vishnu
male as in ending and proyecting towards greatness...:Shiva

All these, before sheep herders thought about religion as becoming a safe way to secure survival. It was called TANTRA

None, of what you say proposes zip. You are actually telling me to glorify whatever you as an individual read without any gesture whatsoever towards comprenhension.

Parrots are great for repeating stuff.

You seem old, ......read,memorize, repeat, assimilate, propose

then, we talk old man:flaw: not all people have got to google.com their lives

Like it or not, it has been proven by archaelogy, Chinese culture comes looong way before Indian continwental culture

My point was is both reamin deeply linked

You seem such a hard headed ignorant that you feel disrespectful quoting and relating what has been spoke by so many scholars earlier.

Now, about families

Uchiha
Senju
Rinnegan(Uzumaki?)

there you go with my relation

they share smooth inspirations from asian cultures

don`t like it, become an extremist and crawl into a temple

I lived 6 years among Balinese you flawed arse.. they CAN read (some) sanskryt... Caste doe not impose banning from knowledge.. common people, if they want to , Can learn ancient wisdom

shame on all other places in which that is not possible..

by the way ...I speak 5 languages.

and no, I am not Hindu, but people belive I`m decent enough as to introduce me to elders and speak

believe it or not, even holy men love having philosophical chats every once in a while

and yeah, sometimes I do try to look clever too..sorry
 
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Sorry again for off topic post Castiel:

No, I haven`t read all of Hindu books, but yeah, I did read Gilgamesh, Mahabbarata, and Ramayana.

And what I feel is u try to look clever.

I already gave you reasons for my argument.


like it or not, You, there are 3 main pulses/energies in which Hindu religion divides matter male/female/mixture

female as in giving birth: Brahmamixture as in nurturing/exhausting: Vishnu
male as in ending and proyecting towards greatness...:Shiva

All these, before sheep herders thought about religion as becoming a safe way to secure survival. It was called TANTRA

None, of what you say proposes zip. You are actually telling me to glorify whatever you as an individual read without any gesture whatsoever towards comprenhension.

It would be great if you remember next time that Gilgamesh belongs to Mesopotamia.
So what version of Mahabharat and Ramayana did you read? The name of the writer? I have the original versions of both in Sasnkrit with translations, Ram Charit Manas and Geeta press collections as well as Bheeshma , BhagvadGeeta, Yoga Vashishtha in my personal collection. Let's discuss it sometime. :)

Brahma didn't give them birth- he created them. As for him being a female- He has a long whilte beard- is married to two goddess Savitri and Gaitri. Has a daughter named Saraswati.

The story that he was performing a yagya at Pushkar and Savitri was late. He didn't wait and married Gaitri to perform it since a married man cannot perform rituals till his wife is along side with him. Savitri reached just that time and saw what had happenned - she was not that late after all. She got angry and cursed Brahma that he will not be worshipped anywhere else except that palce from that day on. Pushkar is the only place Brahma has a temple dedicated to him.

parrots are great for repeating stuff.

You seem old, ......read,memorize, repeat, assimilate, propose

then, we talk old man:flaw: not all people have got to google.com their lives

Like it or not, it has been proven by archaelogy, Chinese culture comes looong way before Indian continwental culture

My point was is both reamin deeply linked

You seem such a hard headed ignorant that you feel disrespectful quoting and relating what has been spoke by so many scholars earlier.

Do you realise that with every post you make your ignorance is becoming more and more apparant? You cannot provide any worth while source of your statements or proper logical explaination of your theory. and yet you started to post insults and flames to hide your failure. NIce move. :rolleyes:

out families

Uchiha
Senju
Rinnegan(Uzumaki?)

there you go with my relation

they share smooth inspirations from asian cultures

don`t like it, become an extremist and crawl into a temple

I lived 6 years among Balinese you flawed arse.. they CAN read (some) sanskryt... Caste doe not impose banning from knowledge.. common people, if they want to , Can learn ancient wisdom

shame on all other places in which that is not possible..

by the way ...I speak 5 languages.

and no, I am not Hindu, but people belive I`m decent enough as to introduce me to elders and speak

Those people were being polite. Do not let it go to your head that it was because you were somthing out of ordinary. You are trying to show off at the moment, pretending to have knowledge when you do not know even the basics.

it or not, even holy men love having philosophical chats every once in a while

and yeah, sometimes I do try to look clever too..sorry

that's the only honest statement in the whole post.

Edit: Well since you have turned the debate into quite personal attack in your latest post, I think if you have any thing further to say please sent me a VM or PM. Or make a new thread in chatter box or general discussion section and link me to it through my profile page if you want to do it in a thread..
 
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Sorry again for off topic post Castiel:



It would be great if you remember next time that Gilgamesh belongs to Mesopotamia.
So what version of Mahabharat and Ramayana did you read? The name of the writer? I have the original versions of both in Sasnkrit with translations, Ram Charit Manas and Geeta press collections as well as Bheeshma , BhagvadGeeta, Yoga Vashishtha in my personal collection. Let's discuss it sometime. :)

Brahma didn't give them birth- he created them. As for him being a female- He has a long whilte beard- is married to two goddess Savitri and Gaitri. Has a daughter named Saraswati.

The story that he was performing a yagya at Pushkar and Savitri was late. He didn't wait and married Gaitri to perform it since a married man cannot perform rituals till his wife is along side with him. Savitri reached just that time and saw what had happenned - she was not that late after all. She got angry and cursed Brahma that he will not be worshipped anywhere else except that palce from that day on. Pushkar is the only place Brahma has a temple dedicated to him.

Uhm, how is this related with the post?

Nice one ISTHATNECESSARY..YOU SHOULD BECOME A TOURIST GUIDE

Do you realise that with every post you make your ignorance is becoming more and more apparant? You cannot provide any worth while source of your statements or proper logical explaination of your theory. and yet you started to post insults and flames to hide your failure. NIce move. :rolleyes:



Those people were being polite. Do not let it go to your head that it was because you were somthing out of ordinary. You are trying to show off at the moment, pretending to have knowledge when you do not know even the basics.

I`m aware they were . However, whenever you want to speak about anything you need somethin on into which an argument can be sostained.

I already told what I read. Most stories I got to read Are prior to the Shaka period.





that's the only honest statement in the whole post.

Edit: Well since you have turned the debate into quite personal attack in your latest post, I think if you have any thing further to say please sent me a VM or PM. Or make a new thread in chatter box or general discussion section and link me to it through my profile page if you want to do it in a thread..

Gilgamesh comes from Mesopotamia? It`s been proven, Indian culure is older than the cultures risen around the rivers Tigris and Eufrates, most academics interpret Gilgamesh journey as an acount of those migrations.

I put it into topic cause it`s one hell of a big log of argumetn while speaking about Indian, from India yeah, culture. Sorry if that story isn`t stigmatized by religious puffs, AND does not quite fit in what you would like to call a pure Indian civilzation.

Great, keep it going :lili:. That`s the actual root of most epic indian literature.

:no_ignore:

You do not understand the point of the discussion was not preaching deities ethimology. i you feel like proyecting what you`ve been told to memorize in school, please use facebook. And speak with dumbo nationalists such as you. I t pisses me off finding sheep like you who believe they`re right just because circumstance places their lame soul around the area of the topic of discussion.

That`s moreless the whole, of your argument. You can`t know zip whiteman! right?




I`m not interested in discussing trivial mythology with you. Who cares about the stories of 600 indian deities, regarding my post about the basic functions of the trilogy, there`s no point in you replying. You wanna tell the story about the first 3 faces of Brahma? Have a child and tell it to him.
 

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:no_ignore::no_ignore::(:(
Anyways


i noticed shishui technique

has almost the same meaning to kakashi



Kamui
Kamui is the word for a divine being in Ainu mythology, although it is almost never written with kanji in modern times. In a more general Japanese context, Kamui refers to the might and majesty of the gods, particularly the Shintō Kami.

The Kotoamatsukami (別天津神; Literally meaning "Distinguished Heavenly Gods") are a group of five Shintō gods that appeared at the beginning of the universe
Random thought makes me wonder if kakashi can use Amaeratsu
or othe shinto based jutsu
with his MS

omg this is the greatest manga ever xdxd
 
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Gilgamesh comes from Mesopotamia? It`s been proven, Indian culure is older than the cultures risen around the rivers Tigris and Eufrates, most academics interpret Gilgamesh journey as an acount of those migrations.

I put it into topic cause it`s one hell of a big log of argumetn while speaking about Indian, from India yeah, culture. Sorry if that story isn`t stigmatized by religious puffs, AND does not quite fit in what you would like to call a pure Indian civilzation.

Great, keep it going :lili:. That`s the actual root of most epic indian literature.

:no_ignore:

You do not understand the point of the discussion was not preaching deities ethimology. i you feel like proyecting what you`ve been told to memorize in school, please use facebook. And speak with dumbo nationalists such as you. I t pisses me off finding sheep like you who believe they`re right just because circumstance places their lame soul around the area of the topic of discussion.

That`s moreless the whole, of your argument. You can`t know zip whiteman! right?




I`m not interested in discussing trivial mythology with you. Who cares about the stories of 600 indian deities, regarding my post about the basic functions of the trilogy, there`s no point in you replying. You wanna tell the story about the first 3 faces of Brahma? Have a child and tell it to him.


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Well of the same concept
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Kamui is the word for a divine being in Ainu mythology, although it is almost never written with kanji in modern times. In a more general Japanese context, Kamui refers to the might and majesty of the gods, particularly the Shintō Kami.


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"you can't know zip white man" ! Is that supposed to be an ultimate defence?

There are many foreigners who have very sound knowledge of Indian culture and religions. But none of them claim it only by reading a couple of books- and that too from Bali. Bali is a different place. A different culture. Great that you know about that puppet theater guy. Cheers.

Posting a random Image from net is silly. I wonder if you know how many chapter the book has.

Can you tell what that has to do about with me saying that your personal theory and interpretation were wrong and unwelcomed. I just said that you were making wrong assumptions and that was the only reason I detailed the story to you because you kept insisting Brahma was a female without giving any reasoning.

It's good that you admitted in clear words that you don't care about the others beliefs and just make up your own theories as you feel like. You are not concerned that you insult other members or their beliefs in doing so.

You find nothing wrong in continuing this bull shit argument and personal insults and posting unrelevant claims of random knowledge which have nothing to do with the ongoing discussion of the thread topic nor to the point of our personal disagreement. - despite me asking you to send me a PM if you wanted to say something and keep the thread on topic.

I'm not responding to your childish behaviour anymore. You can't even spell Sasnkrit correctly. Do not try to teach me the text written in it.





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Nah, I just don`t care about what you think, but I`m willing to beat you up as karma demands me, it`s just fun pretending stressing you up my dear..:shrug:

Reading your signature it reminds of people using post its on the fridge aiming at purposes they will never furfil.
 

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Reading your signature it reminds of people using post its on the fridge aiming at purposes they will never furfil.

lol.. you were mistaken if you thought I was getting stressed on your personal account. I countered your posts because I'as tired of ignorance level of many NBers in general and your posts were adding to it. I wanted to end it here before some idiot would quote you somewhere else as an authentic source.:shrug:

I do not keep going when I don't find it worth it. Perhaps if there was not such a gap in the new manga while it was this interesting we would have been having a proper discussion. :p

@ Castiel: Thanks for explaining.. .. I guess I will hit Google for the details when I get time.
 
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