So apparently if Oro and a bunch of other high level people can't break out of Itachi's genjutsu in time then Jiraiya definitely can? Someone who has less skill in genjutsu?
This question is meaningless as Kishi says that breaking genjutsu has nothing to do with casting genjutsu.
Dispelling genjutsu depends on the skill of the person breaking out and the person who cast the genjutsu.
False. Kabuto cast a genjutsu and Sakura, Shikamaru and Gai all break the genjutsu even though they do not have great genjutsu skills.
Oh and plus you have to know you are in a genjutsu to begin with. As seen with Deidara and Oro he can make it to where they think it is reality.
What does this have to do with what I said?
You lose Jiraiya's ability to break out of genjutsu does not beat Itachi's genjutsu.
I love how you repeat stuff without providing proof. I give data from the author, you repeat fanfiction
I'm wrong because Madara was hyped to be the strongest Uchiha? We haven't seen the past EMS Madara fight a single battle, not one. And of the almost current one (if that is Madara, I don't think it is) he had to lose an eye and an arm to beat Konan, KONAN. So no I don't think Madara Uchiha was the strongest Uchiha, hype means nothing to me, it is just talk.
Hype means nothing to you but you Itachi is invincible based on Zetsu's hype?
:flaw: LOL Furthermore, if Itachi had been in Madara's shoes, he would have died. Itachi can't sustain susano'o for 10 minutes, he would have been creamed
But he isn't fighting it the same way he fights Madara, all he has to do is trap the Kyuubi and the mokuton suppresses it's chakra. Easy peasy lemon squeezy, and I asked would you call what Yamato does fighting the kyuubi? Hashirama just did it on a bigger scale.
What is the difference between that and using genjutsu? Itachi used sharingan and trapped Orochimaru in a genjutsu. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Does that Itachi did not fight Orochimaru? Yamato did fight the KN4. He defeated it easy because he has the tools to defeat it
And yes since we know so little about Hashirama it is easier for me to believe that he would lose to Itachi since we have heard of no counters to any of his MS abilities. How would he stop Tsukuyomi? Tell me. Oro what if Amaterasu was used on him when he was about to use mokuton? So far the only way to stop Amaterasu is to seal it, or let whatever it is burning burn completely up. And finally what about Susanoo with his legendary weapons? How would Hashirama get past the Yata mirror or when he is using mokuton how would he dodge the Totsuka sword? Tell me how with logic and things from the manga and I will change my mind.
This is flaw in your argument. You can't establish a fact by claiming that it is true because I know nothing about a counter. That is stupid. How would he counter tsukuyomi? The same way he countered it when Madara used it. Remember that Madara has tsukuyomi? Plus, he can counter it by using tajuu kage bunshin. Amaterasu can be countered by regenerating. Get a clue. Zetsu and Madara use shodai's cells to regenerate. Susano'o is overrated. The only thing shodai has to do is merge with the ground to avoid susano'o. Again, Zetsu who is a WEAK clone of shodai can use kagerou and even the sharingan can't sense him. Simple