[Discussion] Sasori remains the best in the Sand Village?

[Modaro]

Answered by Inception.

Ok so why the hell didn't Madara send Sassori to retrieve garra then wasn't he didera's partner, its because sassori's style of fighting would not be a match for garra's no matter what puppet sassori uses.

Look how the metal sand jammed chio's puppets, what do u think will happen to sassori against a sand user of garra's caliber

Don't fight it u will not win

 

[Anub]

Ok so why the hell didn't Madara send Sassori to retrieve garra then wasn't he didera's partner, its because sassori's style of fighting would not be a match for garra's no matter what puppet sassori uses.

Look how the metal sand jammed chio's puppets, what do u think will happen to sassori against a sand user of garra's caliber

Don't fight it u will not win

Why didn't Kakuzu fight Asuma and his team? Was he afraid or would he have lost? Nope. It was because Hidan insisted that he fights them. Deidara also wanted to fight Gaara.

 

[YIN YANG]

Even if the the 3 kazekage gotten beat by sasori im sure by now gaara has power beyond the the shukaku sand.

 

[Anub]

Even if the the 3 kazekage gotten beat by sasori im sure by now gaara has power beyond the the shukaku sand.

3rd Kazekage > Shukaku

 

[GreenTea]

I think Sasori is still the best in the Sand village. He took down the third Kazekage, who is considered the strongest Kazekage. Gaara is strong, it's just that Sasori is better.

 

[Inception]

Ok, and I can just as easily say you're assuming he did win fair and square, so what?? All these arguments are based off of a little assumption.

In regards to the clash, i'm saying that they are the same technique, not the same sand, they both used sand Tsunami, and using your logic, if gold dust is greater then Gaara's normal sand then his father should have had no problem winning that clash right?? He stopped Gaara's sand "easily" as you proclaim, but Gaara also nullified the density of the gold sand easily by lifting on top of it, like I said, a testament to how he could do against the iron sand.

It's only bullshit because i'm not agreeing with you, get over it. Please do tell me how iron sand will "stop" Gaara's sand, other than "it's the strongest" because that seems to be your only argument and the only reason why he wins, in your opinion. Gaara only uses his sand? That's pretty much all he needs against a bunch of puppets, iron sand is the only thing I see getting in the way.

You're ignoring half of my post. Especially the first part.

Allow me to repeat it. Sasori claims it took effort to kill the 3rd Kazekage.

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- "took down a country" - Only country he took down was apparently Sand a.k.a the Kazekage which sparked the last war.

I'm not assuming things. You're assuming he sneaked up on the Kazekage and captured him without anyone knowing when he clearly says it took an effort to kill the Kazekage not to mention a technique that he says took down a country. If we go with what you're saying, the 3rd Kazekage is being made out to be a big fat joke. Please show me where it says he sneaked up on the Kazekage and ambushed him without a fight. Those panels right there explains that the Kazekage did put up some sort of struggle if not a huge battle.

Gaara may have nullified the Gold Dust just because he lifted the sand on top of Gold Dust doesn't mean he can do it instantly. Gold Dust instantly took down the tsunami where as Gaara's sand took time to rise over the Gold Dust. The word "already" in the latest manga is the keyword. We still haven't seen enough of Gold Dust so it's hard to "assume" how powerful it is but we know that it was clearly used to take down the Shukaku. Iron Sand can change its property to adapt to the battle. I mentioned that the Iron Sand was created to imitate the Shukaku's sand. It is not in the same league as the Gold Dust.

Btw I'll quote why I called bullshit just so you know that you disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.

Sasori mentions that the 3rd Kazekage was his favourite puppet because of the effort it took to capture him. Sasori actually claimed he had trouble killing him.

 

[Inception]

Ok so why the hell didn't Madara send Sassori to retrieve garra then wasn't he didera's partner, its because sassori's style of fighting would not be a match for garra's no matter what puppet sassori uses.

Look how the metal sand jammed chio's puppets, what do u think will happen to sassori against a sand user of garra's caliber

Don't fight it u will not win

Apologies for the double post but my last one is too long to reply to a different person.

Deidera went on purpose. I am not going to search it up for you but if you want, go back to the manga and you'll see. Deidera also admitted that Sasori is the stronger out of the two.

Oh and the metal being jammed. That's the effect of the Iron Sand. Normal sand has nothing to do with it. Iron Sand had the ability to clog up puppets. My last post has proof if you need.

 

[Anub]

You're ignoring half of my post. Especially the first part.

Allow me to repeat it. Sasori claims it took effort to kill the 3rd Kazekage.

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Most feared Jutsu from Sand.

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Explanation on how Iron Sand works and proving how your theory about puppet's abilities being inferior to actual individuals' abilities is wrong.

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That's not all. They are more deadly than when they actually lived because they are basically immortal. They also have upgrades.

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- "took down a country" - Only country he took down was apparently Sand a.k.a the Kazekage which sparked the last war.

I'm not assuming things. You're assuming he sneaked up on the Kazekage and captured him without anyone knowing when he clearly says it took an effort to kill the Kazekage not to mention a technique that he says took down a country. If we go with what you're saying, the 3rd Kazekage is being made out to be a big fat joke. Please show me where it says he sneaked up on the Kazekage and ambushed him without a fight. Those panels right there explains that the Kazekage did put up some sort of struggle if not a huge battle.

Gaara may have nullified the Gold Dust just because he lifted the sand on top of Gold Dust doesn't mean he can do it instantly. Gold Dust instantly took down the tsunami where as Gaara's sand took time to rise over the Gold Dust. The word "already" in the latest manga is the keyword. We still haven't seen enough of Gold Dust so it's hard to "assume" how powerful it is but we know that it was clearly used to take down the Shukaku. Iron Sand can change its property to adapt to the battle. I mentioned that the Iron Sand was created to imitate the Shukaku's sand. It is not in the same league as the Gold Dust.

Btw I'll quote why I called bullshit just so you know that you disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.

Ownage approved. Rep added.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

You're ignoring half of my post. Especially the first part.

Allow me to repeat it. Sasori claims it took effort to kill the 3rd Kazekage.

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Most feared Jutsu from Sand.

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Explanation on how Iron Sand works and proving how your theory about puppet's abilities being inferior to actual individuals' abilities is wrong.

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That's not all. They are more deadly than when they actually lived because they are basically immortal. They also have upgrades.

You must be registered for see links

- "took down a country" - Only country he took down was apparently Sand a.k.a the Kazekage which sparked the last war.

I'm not assuming things. You're assuming he sneaked up on the Kazekage and captured him without anyone knowing when he clearly says it took an effort to kill the Kazekage not to mention a technique that he says took down a country. If we go with what you're saying, the 3rd Kazekage is being made out to be a big fat joke. Please show me where it says he sneaked up on the Kazekage and ambushed him without a fight. Those panels right there explains that the Kazekage did put up some sort of struggle if not a huge battle.

Gaara may have nullified the Gold Dust just because he lifted the sand on top of Gold Dust doesn't mean he can do it instantly. Gold Dust instantly took down the tsunami where as Gaara's sand took time to rise over the Gold Dust. The word "already" in the latest manga is the keyword. We still haven't seen enough of Gold Dust so it's hard to "assume" how powerful it is but we know that it was clearly used to take down the Shukaku. Iron Sand can change its property to adapt to the battle. I mentioned that the Iron Sand was created to imitate the Shukaku's sand. It is not in the same league as the Gold Dust.

Btw I'll quote why I called bullshit just so you know that you disagreeing with me has nothing to do with it.

I haven't ignored anything, I just know the first part of your post was just a bunch of repetitious ways to say how Sasori actually fought the third, when all you know is that he had a hard time, doesn't really say much, but you think what you want as will I.

None of the manga chapters you provided shows how iron sand could win over Gaara's sand, so all in all your efforts were pretty pointless. Correction, gold dust did not take down gaara's sand, it ended in a stalemate. You are becoming quite repetitive with your argument, so I don't think there is much more I can say.

Puppets immortal??? Are you hearing yourself! I guess the third was immortal after Sakura smashed him then hu? You know when all the iron sand stopped working, that's immortality at its finest I guess.

 

[Inception]

I haven't ignored anything, I just know the first part of your post was just a bunch of repetitious ways to say how Sasori actually fought the third, when all you know is that he had a hard time, doesn't really say much, but you think what you want as will I.

None of the manga chapters you provided shows how iron sand could win over Gaara's sand, so all in all your efforts were pretty pointless. Correction, gold dust did not take down gaara's sand, it ended in a stalemate. You are becoming quite repetitive with your argument, so I don't think there is much more I can say.

Puppets immortal??? Are you hearing yourself! I guess the third was immortal after Sakura smashed him then hu? You know when all the iron sand stopped working, that's immortality at its finest I guess.

Lmao, Gaara's father TOOK DOWN GAARA'S SAND TSUNAMI. In other words, he stopped it. How much simpler do you want me to make that? Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage. I can't stress that enough. You keep denying it all you want but everyone acknowledges this except you. Puppets being immortal was a way of saying that some of the normal "killing blows" that could actually kill a person would not be enough to a kill a mere puppet who's body is not real. Do you understand what I mean? Let me make that a bit simpler; Sakura smashed the whole body scattering it everywhere and hence the puppet was destroyed. What would've happened if he was stabbed instead? You also claimed that the puppets were weaker because the user was not able to use the puppet's abilities fully. Again, I proved you wrong.

About Iron Sand;

Gold Dust was used to stop the Shukaku's sand a.k.a Gaara's sand. Iron Sand was created to imitate the Shukaku's sand. Do you know what that means? Guess not.

You're blinded by your love for Gaara, which is understandable. I proved my points with facts and now that I've proven you wrong, you're saying I'm repeating myself and how I proved nothing. You're right, this is not worth the time. Nothing I show will change your "opinion" because that's all it is.

You can keep assuming things all you want. Take care.

 

[RinneganNaruto]

I think he is the strongest indeed.
That is, if he actually killed the 3d Kazekage in a fight.

If he assassinated him, I'd say he's at least the most cunning one from the sand.

:O your signature

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Is like Super FUNNY:hug://O.O

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Lmao, Gaara's father TOOK DOWN GAARA'S SAND TSUNAMI. In other words, he stopped it. How much simpler do you want me to make that? Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage. I can't stress that enough. You keep denying it all you want but everyone acknowledges this except you. Puppets being immortal was a way of saying that some of the normal "killing blows" that could actually kill a person would not be enough to a kill a mere puppet who's body is not real. Do you understand what I mean? Let me make that a bit simpler; Sakura smashed the whole body scattering it everywhere and hence the puppet was destroyed. What would've happened if he was stabbed instead? You also claimed that the puppets were weaker because the user was not able to use the puppet's abilities fully. Again, I proved you wrong.

About Iron Sand;

Gold Dust was used to stop the Shukaku's sand a.k.a Gaara's sand. Iron Sand was created to imitate the Shukaku's sand. Do you know what that means? Guess not.

You're blinded by your love for Gaara, which is understandable. I proved my points with facts and now that I've proven you wrong, you're saying I'm repeating myself and how I proved nothing. You're right, this is not worth the time. Nothing I show will change your "opinion" because that's all it is.

You can keep assuming things all you want. Take care.

K thanks for ending this pointless rant, I will keep assuming as you assume that Sasori is stronger and that you proved me wrong, assumptions are great at masking the truth, I can see why you do a lot of it.

 

[zetsu98]

he wouldn't be able to beat gaara becouse his sand would clog the joints of his puppets

 

[Jae Dong180]

I think Temari is currently the strongest in the Sand.

Because she almost beat
Shika and can blow wind xD

And because I'm just a fanboy...but hey at least
I admit it.

Seriously though, unbiasedly. Sasori remains the best in the Sand. You defeat the best kazekage ever this makes you the best until stated otherwise.

 

[BigDawgMinato]

I think Temari is currently the strongest in the Sand.

Because she almost beat
Shika and can blow wind xD

And because I'm just a fanboy...but hey at least
I admit it.

Seriously though, unbiasedly. Sasori remains the best in the Sand. You defeat the best kazekage ever this makes you the best until stated otherwise.

most people in the sand can blow wind

 

[Jae Dong180]

most people in the sand can blow wind

It was sarcasm lol

 

[Modaro]

Apologies for the double post but my last one is too long to reply to a different person.

Deidera went on purpose. I am not going to search it up for you but if you want, go back to the manga and you'll see. Deidera also admitted that Sasori is the stronger out of the two.

Oh and the metal being jammed. That's the effect of the Iron Sand. Normal sand has nothing to do with it. Iron Sand had the ability to clog up puppets. My last post has proof if you need.

Ahh crap put some sand in the berrings of a bycycle or anything that is jointed and tell me what happens. Garra can also use sand bullets and other cools stuff like that that can destroy wooden puppets.

ANY PERSON WITH SENSE WOULD KNOW gaara would win,

also us said sassori was the stronger of the two, well gaara didn't actually loose he was worn out protecting the entire village from a blast, lets see sassori do that!

 

[Engaged Gambit]

Depending on the situation, he will leave if he must. Do I need to give anymore example or would this was be enough proof of a "situation" in which a kage can leave a village?



I always regarded Sasori as one of the strongest Akatsuki out there. It goes like this for me

First 3 are obvious
Sasori
Kakuzu
Deidara
Kisame
Hidan

Haven't put Oro/Konan/Zetsu up there since it's not important.

This makes me lol. Hidan at the bottom? Kisame down there? Have you honestly read the manga and comprehended it? Kisame is the strongest Akatsuki member on your list. Kakuzu's experience and wisdom would make him very close to Kisame, and Hidan just can't die. Deidara and Sasori could not hang with Kisame. This is my opinion that is supported by what I've read in the manga.

 

[Jae Dong180]

Kisame is a tad bit overrated and he can't even control his own sword.

 

[Itachi2020]

I think Garra is stronger.