[Discussion] kishi still got his touch

[blazekev90]

So your complaining about other ppl complaining?? If ppl have issues with it let them vent if they want to, why is it bothering you??

 

[Mr.Beastie]

So your complaining about other ppl complaining?? If ppl have issues with it let them vent if they want to, why is it bothering you??

Because people make threads about what kishi does wrong all the time. Besides It look like i am not the only who feels this way.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Excite, you do realize that the genin Ino you're talking about is worlds away from the chunin Ino gigging in the 4th ninja war. She has grown more confident & competent in her abilities since those episodes you mentioned, so it was not inconceivable that she helped defeat the sorry-ass pseudo jinchuriki. I'm no Ino fanboy, just looking at the facts.

Well if that Pseudo jinchuriki was so sorry why did tobi run to the battle field to get it?how were the gold & silver brothers able to beat the 2nd Raikage & Hokage if they were sorry?confident & competent you really wanna get into that really?Kiba was confident that he'd defeat so much enemys that he'd become hokage during the after the war lets see if confidents will help.I'm just saying because if ino could'nt control a 3 tail Kyuubi form during the sora arc how is she able to control a 6 tail Kyuubi during the 4th ninja war arc.That time skip she must have been training her tail off she.(LMAO)

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Well if that Pseudo jinchuriki was so sorry why did tobi run to the battle field to get it?how were the gold & silver brothers able to beat the 2nd Raikage & Hokage if they were sorry?confident & competent you really wanna get into that really?Kiba was confident that he'd defeat so much enemys that he'd become hokage during the after the war lets see if confidents will help.I'm just saying because if ino could'nt control a 3 tail Kyuubi form during the sora arc how is she able to control a 6 tail Kyuubi during the 4th ninja war arc.That time skip she must have been training her tail off she.(LMAO)

So true I didnt think about that myself.

 

[Avani]

Well if that Pseudo jinchuriki was so sorry why did tobi run to the battle field to get it?how were the gold & silver brothers able to beat the 2nd Raikage & Hokage if they were sorry?confident & competent you really wanna get into that really?Kiba was confident that he'd defeat so much enemys that he'd become hokage during the after the war lets see if confidents will help.I'm just saying because if ino could'nt control a 3 tail Kyuubi form during the sora arc how is she able to control a 6 tail Kyuubi during the 4th ninja war arc.That time skip she must have been training her tail off she.(LMAO)

Don't get excite-d about Sora arc, in the manga section. lol.

And it's all about better match up. The character have grown up a lot since.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Don't get excite-d about Sora arc, in the manga section. lol.

And it's all about better match up. The character have grown up a lot since.

Yeah she has grown up but she only praqcticed in medical jutsu not

 

[Avani]

Yeah she has grown up but she only praqcticed in medical jutsu not

Well mind transfer is her family jutsu-( ino shika chau combo)- . The manga is not called Ino so kishi needn't cover everything Ino has been doing. But if choji and Shika have been learning with their parents I'm sure Ino has been too. she also showed her ability to some extent in fight with Kakuzu when she was tracking Hidan and him.

 

[Qberto]

It is not a true 6-tailed jinchuriki. Neither was Sora, but he was a vessel for the collected pure chakra of the nine tails vs. the KinGin brothers ingesting flesh of the 9-tails & gaining some chakra. Nowhere near the potency of what Sora had, so you can say sora was a truer jinchuriki. And yes, she had gotten stronger (controlling 2 people at a time during 4th ninja war/mind clone switch technique). I ain't mad st ya, so why you wanna mad dog me w/o analyzing what I'm saying?!

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Don't get excite-d about Sora arc, in the manga section. lol.

And it's all about better match up. The character have grown up a lot since.

All because it didn't end up in the manga doesn't mean i can't use it to prove a point.

Pakura appeared in the shippuden 3 movie before the manga so offically she's a filler character, she made and impact in the manga so i see it credible to use sora as a example.

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And if ino was developing like you say she is then she could have dude alot more during the pein arc just saying.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

It is not a true 6-tailed jinchuriki. Neither was Sora, but he was a vessel for the collected pure chakra of the nine tails vs. the KinGin brothers ingesting flesh of the 9-tails & gaining some chakra. Nowhere near the potency of what Sora had, so you can say sora was a truer jinchuriki. And yes, she had gotten stronger (controlling 2 people at a time during 4th ninja war/mind clone switch technique). I ain't mad st ya, so why you wanna mad dog me w/o analyzing what I'm saying?!

Trust me i understand were your coming from i'm not mad or trying to disrespect you in anyway.sora or the gold & silver were not official jinchuriki but they were real close to it.Minato only sealed half the 9 tails chakra inside naruto does that make him less of a jinchuriki???the Yodaime Raikage was kind of on the worried side when he mentioned them, plus these are the guys who brought the 2nd raikage & hokage to the brink of death he and that says alot.She could of gotten stronger but to the level of someone who defeated a kage i highly doubt it.

 

[Avani]

All because it didn't end up in the manga doesn't mean i can't use it to prove a point.

Pakura appeared in the shippuden 3 movie before the manga so offically she's a filler character, she made and impact in the manga so i see it credible to use sora as a example.

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And if ino was developing like you say she is then she could have dude alot more during the pein arc just saying.

It really doesn't matter. I wasn't impressed with Sora- he was no match with the real jinchuriki naruto, neither were kin gin brothers. All nine tail chakra did for them was to make them able to use those fancy fans and ropes and pots etc and their purpose was to replace Naruto in Gedo mezo. I doubt without those weapons they were much of opponants on their own.

Citing Pain arc is ridiculous. Ino Shika chau were useless against Pain as well as their parents- Kakashi and Jiraiya ended up dead and Tsunade in Coma. Shikaku clearly told Shika to keep out of the way of Naruto and that he was in another league with sage mode. IN the end Nagato ended his own life. Naruto might have lost too if Nagato used his remaining strength to kill instead of revival.

It's logical to assume that Ino has gotten beter as a medical nin and her family jutsu based on bits of manga but I never claimed that she was the next hokage!

Say whatever you want but, no need to over react.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

It really doesn't matter. I wasn't impressed with Sora- he was no match with the real jinchuriki naruto, neither were kin gin brothers. All nine tail chakra did for them was to make them able to use those fancy fans and ropes and pots etc and their purpose was to replace Naruto in Gedo mezo. I doubt without those weapons they were much of opponants on their own.

Citing Pain arc is ridiculous. Ino Shika chau were useless against Pain as well as their parents- Kakashi and Jiraiya ended up dead and Tsunade in Coma. Shikaku clearly told Shika to keep out of the way of Naruto and that he was in another league with sage mode. IN the end Nagato ended his own life. Naruto might have lost too if Nagato used his remaining strength to kill instead of revival.

It's logical to assume that Ino has gotten beter as a medical nin and her family jutsu based on bits of manga but I never claimed that she was the next hokage!

Say whatever you want but, no need to over react.

Bro ino shika chou didnt have a chance to fight pain as far as we know.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Yeah he does. He is still hardly 30 ( or 29) and it's his first manga. i hope to see more work from him in future.

Thanky you everybody for agree with me.

 

[Dissension]

Time constraints is the main reason why so many powerful IWR ninja are going to lose so quickly. Plus they are no longer major antagonists (if they ever were to begin with).

If Kishi wrote even one chapter fights for every IWR ninja Kabuto has resurrected, the war would take for ever, and we wouldn't see as much of the 3 (4 if you count Zetsu separately from Tobi/Madara) major antagonists that are left.

I believe the two main reason for the IWR ninja are: 1) To keep readers from not forgetting about Kabuto, 2) To fill in some history of the Naruto universe.

There might be some IWR ninja that do get more time than others (Itachi, and Nagato for example), but if you don't want to see these once powerful ninja die fast, I suggest you stop reading they manga.

As for the Original Poster's comments, I do agree, I really don't think Kishi has lost his touch. Plus when the anime gets to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the fights extended some.

 

[HamzaVeli]

I dont understand why people try to say kishi has lost his touch or how they hate the series. I mean this is kishi's story not theirs. Ill admit the war matchups is predictible but it still is fun to read. Also some idiot complained about how naruto doesnt have realism well anyone who thinks that about anime needs to get a life. People please give kishi props for making naruto I doubt you could do a better job.

amen to that brotha - - -

 

[Mr.Beastie]

Time constraints is the main reason why so many powerful IWR ninja are going to lose so quickly. Plus they are no longer major antagonists (if they ever were to begin with).

If Kishi wrote even one chapter fights for every IWR ninja Kabuto has resurrected, the war would take for ever, and we wouldn't see as much of the 3 (4 if you count Zetsu separately from Tobi/Madara) major antagonists that are left.

I believe the two main reason for the IWR ninja are: 1) To keep readers from not forgetting about Kabuto, 2) To fill in some history of the Naruto universe.

There might be some IWR ninja that do get more time than others (Itachi, and Nagato for example), but if you don't want to see these once powerful ninja die fast, I suggest you stop reading they manga.

As for the Original Poster's comments, I do agree, I really don't think Kishi has lost his touch. Plus when the anime gets to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if we see the fights extended some.

thanks for agreeing with me also what does IWR mean.

 

[Dissension]

thanks for agreeing with me also what does IWR mean.

IWR - Impure World Resurrection

 

[Mr.Beastie]

IWR - Impure World Resurrection

Okay I understand what you said now but wouldnt you rather have the war take long and have a lot of action or short with little action?

 

[Mr.Beastie]

amen to that brotha - - -

thanks big bro I just dont understand why people always talk bad about kishi's work if it wasnt for him we wouldnt have a naruto base.

 

[Dissension]

Okay I understand what you said now but wouldnt you rather have the war take long and have a lot of action or short with little action?

Would I like a little more action, or a little less action, you ask? Yes and No.

I would like a little more action with certain characters, but I don't mind a little less with some as well. This is probably how most people feel. If I like the character, I would like to see them more, if I don't like them, seeing them less is better.

If I had to pick one, short or long though? I would pick short. I am more interested in Tobi/Madara and Sasuke, then I am Hanzo, Gold & Silver brothers, etc. Though seeing those characters for a short bit, and learning some more history of those minor characters is cool, but I would prefer to learn more about Tobi/Madara, So6P, and that story line.