What is a Sage EXACTLY??

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rinnigan belong to uchiha and uzumaki combined...... well its a mutation that took place in nagato body as he had senju blood..... my theory though..... madra gave him only sharingan (uchiha dna) which mutated to rinnigan due to presence of senju blood so basically it belongs to SO6P who had both uzumaki and uchia dna.....
so this is your theory..interesting but i have another in mind though...

i believe that the rinnegan exist ahead of sharingan...the sharingan descended from the byakugan....remember that in the leaf village, the oldest KG is the Byakugan....and eventually they believe that the sharingan descended from that of the Byakugan....and the rinnegan is already the power of the So6P...
 

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so this is your theory..interesting but i have another in mind though...

i believe that the rinnegan exist ahead of sharingan...the sharingan descended from the byakugan....remember that in the leaf village, the oldest KG is the Byakugan....and eventually they believe that the sharingan descended from that of the Byakugan....and the rinnegan is already the power of the So6P...
you know I've always been wondering about that, I remember when they said that the shiringan was descendant from byakugan very early in naruto chapters. Yet it seems as if the sharingan is more powerful than the byakugan
 

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BlackGamabunta is the only one who said something that i can agree with.....
well.... u know everything about sage mode... u only want to know the difference b/w sage mode's sage and SO6P's sage....
well....
here it is...
sage is someone having profound knowledge and capability.....who has full control over the knowledge he has...
now ...naruto has control over spiritual energy.....hence he is called a sage... but SO6P had control over 6 tings.... spiritual energy was one of them.....hence he is called sage of the six paths.....
hope u get my points...
well.....
madara said he had three paths..
1 uchiha
2 senju
3 rinnigan
the 2 one i.e senju is the clan having physical energy of the SO6P..... the were strong.... thats what sage mode does..... it is nothing else than the gathering of spiritual energy....

would gladly accept reps.....:D
wow dude this is some amazing stuff you wrote here
 

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Originally Posted by BlackGamabunta
so this is your theory..interesting but i have another in mind though...

i believe that the rinnegan exist ahead of sharingan...the sharingan descended from the byakugan....remember that in the leaf village, the oldest KG is the Byakugan....and eventually they believe that the sharingan descended from that of the Byakugan....and the rinnegan is already the power of the So6P...
you know I've always been wondering about that, I remember when they said that the shiringan was descendant from byakugan very early in naruto chapters. Yet it seems as if the sharingan is more powerful than the byakugan
byakugan has more penetrating power than sharingan and it has telescopic power too..meaning it can see inside your body and at the same time it can see at a wider longer range...unlike sharingan it can only see or read your mind...
 

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byakugan has more penetrating power than sharingan and it has telescopic power too..meaning it can see inside your body and at the same time it can see at a wider longer range...unlike sharingan it can only see or read your mind...
yeah you're right, although look at the stuff Kakashi, Sasuke and Itachi can do with their sharingan compared to what Neji or Hinata can do with their byakugan
 

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Going off of the whole toad issue; seeing how if you take in too much natural energy you become a toad statue, I'd way that it is only taught by the toads.
Only Jiraiya and Naruto (not including toads) have been seen in the manga to have been able to use the Sage Mode. If it was more widely known, I'm sure that there would be a few more people that could use this form. Although people might not be able to get a complete form, or they do not use it due to the draw backs in battle.

This has always been confusing to me, and I really would like to have more of an explanation in the manga about the specific origins of the sage mode. Any insight would be welcome
 

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Going off of the whole toad issue; seeing how if you take in too much natural energy you become a toad statue, I'd way that it is only taught by the toads.
Only Jiraiya and Naruto (not including toads) have been seen in the manga to have been able to use the Sage Mode. If it was more widely known, I'm sure that there would be a few more people that could use this form. Although people might not be able to get a complete form, or they do not use it due to the draw backs in battle.

This has always been confusing to me, and I really would like to have more of an explanation in the manga about the specific origins of the sage mode. Any insight would be welcome
This is why I thought that Naruto's Sage is different, coz only the toads know this
 

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wow dude this is some amazing stuff you wrote here
rep appreciated :D
so this is your theory..interesting but i have another in mind though...

i believe that the rinnegan exist ahead of sharingan...the sharingan descended from the byakugan....remember that in the leaf village, the oldest KG is the Byakugan....and eventually they believe that the sharingan descended from that of the Byakugan....and the rinnegan is already the power of the So6P...
well.... SO6P had two brothers..... one with his dojutsu in the form of sharingan..... so basically..... sharingan was there first.... byakugan ... well that may be an evolution or something.....u said that byakugan "oldest KG of konoha" but what about the founders.... they had KGs .... shouldnt they be called oldest KGs......? wood elemental and sharingan...... think about it...
you know I've always been wondering about that, I remember when they said that the shiringan was descendant from byakugan very early in naruto chapters. Yet it seems as if the sharingan is more powerful than the byakugan
yes... sharingan is more powerful....
byakugan has more penetrating power than sharingan and it has telescopic power too..meaning it can see inside your body and at the same time it can see at a wider longer range...unlike sharingan it can only see or read your mind...
think about susano,tsukyomi and amaterasu.....
yeah you're right, although look at the stuff Kakashi, Sasuke and Itachi can do with their sharingan compared to what Neji or Hinata can do with their byakugan
agreed..... :p
 

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rep appreciated :D

1.well.... SO6P had two brothers..... one with his dojutsu in the form of sharingan..... so basically..... sharingan was there first.... byakugan ... well that may be an evolution or something.....u said that byakugan "oldest KG of konoha" but what about the founders.... they had KGs .... shouldnt they be called oldest KGs......? wood elemental and sharingan...... think about it...

2.yes... sharingan is more powerful....

3.think about susano,tsukyomi and amaterasu.....

agreed..... :p
in point number one...it is not my claim that byakugan is the oldest, it was stated in the manga....on the early part..here is the link...


in point number two ..this was also stated in the manga...this is what i meant...


in point number three....i'm talking only about the sharingan and byakugan on their abilities to see...or the vision not the strength or power of attacks...you're just confused...i'm not fan of byakugan or sharingan either...so for me both are important KGs in Konoha...
 

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in point number one...it is not my claim that byakugan is the oldest, it was stated in the manga....on the early part..here is the link...


in point number two ..this was also stated in the manga...this is what i meant...


in point number three....i'm talking only about the sharingan and byakugan on their abilities to see...or the vision not the strength or power of attacks...you're just confused...i'm not fan of byakugan or sharingan either...so for me both are important KGs in Konoha...
well..... i can just say that those lines said by kakashi were just to make things seem epic (though it really was) but look at the thing madara said... two brothers thing..... on that bases i say that sharingan is the oldest and one more thing...... byakugan is mutation of sharingan and as a result it lost its other abilities but the viewing ability was enhanced..... but still ... i dont think that byakugan shows everything in slow motion like sharingan...
 

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a sage is someone who can sense chakra around and able to absorb it,rikodou was called a sage cause he knows everything there is to know about chakra and u can't possibly tell me he can't sense or absorb it lol
 

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a sage is someone who can sense chakra around and able to absorb it,rikodou was called a sage cause he knows everything there is to know about chakra and u can't possibly tell me he can't sense or absorb it lol
thats only one aspect of it..... u know he was called SAGE 0f the six paths...... six paths....what u explained could only be one path...
 
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