How can people actually say Raikage beat Sasuke?

[KyuubiYondaime]

No matter how you look at the fight Sasuke won.

When a fight is interrupted the one with less injuries is declared the winner. I for one think if Sasuke had came out of the fight without an arm people would make fun of him forever, if Raikage only had some bruises.

If you wanna go what would have happened after the clash, Raikage was hiding behind a pillar while Sasuke fought other super powerful guys like Gaara (another kage) and Darui with the Big Susanoo and C suggested them to retreat. If it was Sasuke receiving healing at this point people would say he had lost.

Fact is, Raikage could have continued his fight with Sasuke even after Gaara interrupted yet he knew it wasnt wise, which means they all ganged up on him later.

The only thing people have is during the clash and I just don't see Sasuke dying with just 1 blow whereas a previous one merely bruised him, and this time he also had defense. Hell, he had even more defense. He had susanoo and Enton spikes.

Susanoo ribs were broken but the aura still protects him, reason why he wasn't burned by Mizukage's initial lava.

And Enton is a jutsu apart from Amaterasu, or it wouldn't have another name, and the databook states it.

So basically Raikage would have his leg on a stick to fall on Susanoo which would result in Sasuke having little to no injury.

Then with just 1 leg, Raikage wouldn't be able to avoid Sasuke's Big Susanoo and would have died atleast without Darui's help.

Bee stated Raikage is lefthanded, which is the arm he lost, so esentially in fighting Sasuke, and being a straight taijutsu fighter he lost a lot. Is like a boxer losing his best arm.

TBH I don't see why people say that that clash would have done both of em in. It was just another one. Sasuke was still protected, and A wouldnt have died. Losing his arm didnt seem to bother him physically that much, but hed be unable to dodge Susanoo without a leg.

I then think that Darui + Raikage could have beaten Sasuke, but Raikage by himself? Nah.

 

[MrSharingan]

I don't think Sasuke won per say, he was only able to land one blow (that was ineffective) and Raikage only lost his arm coz he went berserk. But if the fight went one, I'm sure Susanoo would've came out in full effect and it would be a different story. But no.

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

If Raikage held his cool, it would have being another story, but as things turns out theres no way Raikage won. And people stating stuff like Raikage could hold his own with EMS Sasuke are just too much Raikage over-rating.

 

[minato4th]

Sasuke would have one the fight anyway, the raikage's left arm was gone and plus that last move he tried to pull on sasuke would have killed him . Gaara had to step in, knowing that would have been the case.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

No matter how you look at the fight Sasuke won.

When a fight is interrupted the one with less injuries is declared the winner. I for one think if Sasuke had came out of the fight without an arm people would make fun of him forever, if Raikage only had some bruises.

If you wanna go what would have happened after the clash, Raikage was hiding behind a pillar while Sasuke fought other super powerful guys like Gaara (another kage) and Darui with the Big Susanoo and C suggested them to retreat. If it was Sasuke receiving healing at this point people would say he had lost.

Fact is, Raikage could have continued his fight with Sasuke even after Gaara interrupted yet he knew it wasnt wise, which means they all ganged up on him later.

The only thing people have is during the clash and I just don't see Sasuke dying with just 1 blow whereas a previous one merely bruised him, and this time he also had defense. Hell, he had even more defense. He had susanoo and Enton spikes.

Susanoo ribs were broken but the aura still protects him, reason why he wasn't burned by Mizukage's initial lava.

And Enton is a jutsu apart from Amaterasu, or it wouldn't have another name, and the databook states it.

So basically Raikage would have his leg on a stick to fall on Susanoo which would result in Sasuke having little to no injury.

Then with just 1 leg, Raikage wouldn't be able to avoid Sasuke's Big Susanoo and would have died atleast without Darui's help.

Bee stated Raikage is lefthanded, which is the arm he lost, so esentially in fighting Sasuke, and being a straight taijutsu fighter he lost a lot. Is like a boxer losing his best arm.

TBH I don't see why people say that that clash would have done both of em in. It was just another one. Sasuke was still protected, and A wouldnt have died. Losing his arm didnt seem to bother him physically that much, but hed be unable to dodge Susanoo without a leg.

I then think that Darui + Raikage could have beaten Sasuke, but Raikage by himself? Nah.

well.....

Raikage used the Raiga Bomb on Sasuke which no one has ever survived and what saved Sasuke was his Sasuno. Sasuno's ribs were broken after that however..

Than Raikage sacrificed his arm to pimp smack Sasuke through his Amaterasu and Sasuno, breaking some more Sasuno ribs.

Raikage was going in for the Leg Drop, very confident even though Sasuke had his Sasuno and Amatersu protecting him again.

Raikage wasnt hiding behind any pillars, Gaara interupted the fight. and Raikage was very pissed about it threatening Gaara to give a good explanation as to his reason for budding in.

Raikage did use the time to heal himself while Gaara was chating with Sasuke and Raikage had intended to go in to continue the fight after stopping the blood flow out of his wound..

Bee said Raikage lost his strong arm, yes. but i LOVE how you dont continue that conversation and state that Raikage responded to him that his right arm is enough to beat any man. he even proved that when he used it to help take "Kisame's" head off.

anyways its not clear who would have won if Gaara didnt interupt but Raikage was very confident in that leg drop even though he was going through Amaterasu and Sasuno. Raikage also was aware of Amaterasu protecting Sasuke and he made the desicion to attack through it anyways. obviously Raikage would have been suffered more injury from the Amaterasu protecting Sasuke but Sasuke was also in trouble. Raikage's attacks was proving effective through Amaterasu and Sasuno and Sasuke was nearing his limits... Raikage sacrificed his arm through his own desicion..

btw welcome to the site newbie

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

because he was winning and would have won if garra had not stopped the fight

 

[DarkLuxAng]

Sasuke would just use "Amaterasu" to wipe out his other arm.

 

[scrappywelds]

if i'm not mistaken Sasuke used his sharigan too much using Susanoo, he almost sealed off his sharigan.He was going blind. If they kept it up he would have blinded himself and possibly lost.

 

[DarkLuxAng]

if i'm not mistaken Sasuke used his sharigan too much using Susanoo, he almost sealed off his sharigan.He was going blind. If they kept it up he would have blinded himself and possibly lost.

Despite that, he still had enough sharingan in him to use at least two more death-defying "Tsukiyomi". Which is enough to take care of the "Raikage". Just barely, Though

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

well.....

Raikage used the Raiga Bomb on Sasuke which no one has ever survived and what saved Sasuke was his Sasuno. Sasuno's ribs were broken after that however..

Than Raikage sacrificed his arm to pimp smack Sasuke through his Amaterasu and Sasuno, breaking some more Sasuno ribs.

Raikage was going in for the Leg Drop, very confident even though Sasuke had his Sasuno and Amatersu protecting him again.

Raikage wasnt hiding behind any pillars, Gaara interupted the fight. and Raikage was very pissed about it threatening Gaara to give a good explanation as to his reason for budding in.

Raikage did use the time to heal himself while Gaara was chating with Sasuke and Raikage had intended to go in to continue the fight after stopping the blood flow out of his wound..

Bee said Raikage lost his strong arm, yes. but i LOVE how you dont continue that conversation and state that Raikage responded to him that his right arm is enough to beat any man. he even proved that when he used it to help take "Kisame's" head off.

anyways its not clear who would have won if Gaara didnt interupt but Raikage was very confident in that leg drop even though he was going through Amaterasu and Sasuno. Raikage also was aware of Amaterasu protecting Sasuke and he made the desicion to attack through it anyways. Raikage sacrificed his arm through his own desicion..

btw welcome to the site newbie

Well like I said bro Susanoo aura still protects Sasuke even if the ribs were broken. Raikage was confident before the Enton is set up.

Regardless, A being confident or not really doesnt mean much. Many characters have thought they can beat another and are constantly being proven wrong. This has happened throughout the whole manga. Regardless, one Raikage saw the Big Susanoo, he didn't seem so confident to me.

If he was so confident he could beat Sasuke, he would have told Gaara he didn't need his help and just take him on by himself without any healing, thats to me why he lost the fight. He had to be healed to continue. Later he seemed to ask everyone to go after Sasuke instead of just going himself, even after knowing Sasuke was hurt, and he was healed.

I don't think anyone would have died from the clash. Raikage is too strong to die by losing a leg, losing an arm didn't hurt him too badly, but he would be unable to dodge Big Susanoo. And if Sasuke survived 2 attacks with 1 defense I doubt hed suddenly die from a third with 2 defenses. Math just doesn't add up. He might have being hurt to the same degree A would be. Especially since A's kick seems over-rated. If Gaara's sand could stop it, I think an MS jutsu could.

I'm not at all saying Sasuke was stronger, he simply would have won under those circumstances in which A wasnt thinking at all. IMO Sasuke tricked him. A was willing to lose his limb to stop Sasuke but he didn't count on that last Enton done at the last moment.

If we go by confidence we can say Sasuke was also confident his Enton would stop A's attack because he didn't upgrade Susanoo. Juugo hinted he could have. When he saw the Big Susanoo he said "So this is what he wanted to try out?" and when Sasuke used his Genjutsu on C, the Big Susanoo is shown behind. Sasuke didn't show his Big Susanoo as something he just got, he seemed to know about it. "Gaara this is my ultimate jutsu!".

And thanks nice 2 meet u

 

[Serpent]

If Gaara never stepped in Raikage would have killed Sasuke, and only lost an arm and leg U_U

 

[MrSharingan]

Theres alot of 'woulda, coulda' talk going on. The fact is Garaa saved Sasuke's ass from getting his head kicked in. Sasukes my dude and I'ma fan, but he didn't win that fight.

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

if i'm not mistaken Sasuke used his sharigan too much using Susanoo, he almost sealed off his sharigan.He was going blind. If they kept it up he would have blinded himself and possibly lost.

Sasuke used Big susanoo for more than 10 min straight againts Danzo twice after that, againts Kakashi, Amaterasu, 2 Tsukuyomi, 2 susanoo ribs, an amaterasu on Gaara, Big susanoo on Gaara all of which were not againts A.

Theres alot of 'woulda, coulda' talk going on. The fact is Garaa saved Sasuke's ass from getting his head kicked in. Sasukes my dude and I'ma fan, but he didn't win that fight.

A's kick is over-rated. Gaara small amount of sand stopped it just fine, then an MS jutsu or two can stop it. Certainly wouldnt have died.

 

[Revan]

if i'm not mistaken Sasuke used his sharigan too much using Susanoo, he almost sealed off his sharigan.He was going blind. If they kept it up he would have blinded himself and possibly lost.

that happened after the danzo-fight, where he used susano'o all the time.

I think the figth was a draw. no idea weather the amaterasu sasuke formed really was some kind of shield and weather it would have been enough to block the kick. raikage on the other hand would have lost his leg, which is equal to a defeat. so they would both have been defeated by their enemies last move.

Sasuke now is way stronger than raikage, since he has the complete susano'o.

 

[MrSharingan]

A's kick is over-rated. Gaara small amount of sand stopped it just fine, then an MS jutsu or two can stop it. Certainly wouldnt have died.

Since when is Garaas sand considered to be fragile? It's called the Ultimate defence and is extremely tough. Maybe Sasuke would've died or maybe not.
But he did NOT win the fight. That's all I'm sayin

 

[KyuubiYondaime]

If Gaara never stepped in Raikage would have killed Sasuke, and only lost an arm and leg U_U

A's kick is over-rated. His Raiga bomb didnt kill anybody, and his kick was stopped by Gaara's sand.

Since when is Garaas sand considered to be fragile? It's called the Ultimate defence and is extremely tough. Maybe Sasuke would've died or maybe not.
But he did NOT win the fight. That's all I'm sayin

Gaara's defense that was said ultimate was his Shikaku shield he used on Kimmimaro. Or much more amount of sand like againts C3 where he used a whole village worth of sand. He only used a small portion to block A's little kick.

True, but most interrupted fights are considered the winner the one with less injuries. Anyway Im sure Sasuke could have won with Big susanoo if they both survive and a only had 1 leg and cant avoid it.

 

[animals74]

I think they would put up a better fight if a wasn't so hotheaded and outgoing

 

[Zerabitu]

If Gaara never stepped in Raikage would have killed Sasuke, and only lost an arm and leg U_U

There you have it.
Sasuke sure was lucky to have Gaara save Raikage's leg.
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[KyuubiYondaime]

There you have it.
Sasuke sure was lucky to have Gaara save Raikage's leg.
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It isn't as conclusive as you think.

 

[DarkLuxAng]

Since when is Garaas sand considered to be fragile? It's called the Ultimate defence and is extremely tough. Maybe Sasuke would've died or maybe not.
But he did NOT win the fight. That's all I'm sayin

True. No one even has the right to decide on the sand. Its true that sasuke didnt win, but he still stood up with a good fight.