Discussion: Sasuke vs Naruto
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spideysenses
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Sasuke has something up his sleeve that's why Itachi gave Naruto some power to prevent Sasuke from destroying Konoha. Well it's true that Naruto has improve drastically plus he has a new rasengan. Sasuke master Amateratsu and Susanoo including new EMS powers.
If you will observe Naruto always finish and defeat his enemies clean and not arguable, but Sasuke his wins is always arguable. Like when he fight with Itachi, Danzo, Naruto, Bee and Deidara. His wins is always a LUCK!!!
SuperLifeguard
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Keep in mind that the first time Naruto and Sasuke fought, Naruto PURPOSELY scratched his headband due to Sasuke exclaiming that Naruto wouldn't even be able to do that. Had Naruto actually landed a hit then it would have been different.
Agree on this..Itachi will not go to Naruto if he thinks Sasuke dont have that (we dont know yet) power..So it means Sasuke also have something that can defeat naruto..and as we all know..they both know each other..so maybe sasuke already have an idea how to defeat naruto and his kyuubi chakra
DeathPulse16
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Ok look, this about the billionth thread about this fight ive seen even before the time skip. the show is NARUTO, when it comes down to it, when the show is at the final battle with the climax near, something amazing and magical will happen to make the main character win and become glorious. It always does. Now, putting that unfair and bias reality aside. skill wise, sasuke wins this fight. why? Well, as of now we dont know how strong either of them are even in the least, now lets assume that its your typical good guy bad guy showdown. they'll be just about even, thus it come down to the person himself. Now, naruto has guts and he has grown some kind of brain over the past years but he's still soft hearted and ignorant to the person sasuke is now. Now sasuke, is smart, he makes tactics on the fly, analyzes everything to the tiniest detail and has more than enough power to back those things up. He too has alot of guts to not quit anymore, whether thats guts or blind hatred, it doesnt really matter. he's been turned into a pin cushion by bee, had his chest blown off, nearly got devoured by orochimaru, almost got blown to bits by deidara and so many other things yet he still comes out fighting. This is a fight naruto wouldn't win in real life reality, plain and simple
Frankly, i think Naruto would win. Battle tactics, strength etc etc are all fine. But his will to never give up, no matchin that (Neji vs Naruto Chunnin Exams. Neji definitely outclassed Naruto but...). Sasuke as of now has no 'REAL' purpose since the death of Itachi. Naruto on the other hand is fighting to save his bond with Sasuke.
Oh and plus, Itachi transferred some of his powers to Naruto before dying to help him get back Sasuke and we still haven't seen what that was.
Oh and plus, Itachi transferred some of his powers to Naruto before dying to help him get back Sasuke and we still haven't seen what that was.
DeathPulse16
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Dude, sasuke's purpose is to eradicate the leaf village, that's all his life means to him as of now and sasuke has never given up on a fight in the shippuden series, ever.
Going not on what will happen in the manga but purely their abillity I have to say Naruto, I only say this beacause we have yet to see anything great about Sasuke's new power. Sasuke is a genius in everything and always thinking ahead of his enemy puts him on top of the ninja chain, but when has that ever stopped Naruto before thats why he's so great having a strong will helps him get through anything and just makes him grow. I just hope we get to see more of Sasuke's new powers soon till then I really cant make an acurate decision.
What?
Let's just pick on some shippuden fights:
Naruto vs Oro - naruto had to go 4tails and still not a clear win(or even a win)
Naruto vs Kakuzu - Kakuzu was in the middle of a fight before naruto came along and he didn't have all of his hearts to defend him.
Naruto vs Pain - he had knowledge about Pain, but in the end was captured. If it wasn't for Hinata to interfere and Pain to try and kill her, naruto would have lost that fight. Talk about luck...
Now let's pick on sasuke
Sasuke vs Itachi - luck?! really? Itachi let him win.
Sasuke vs Danzo - he came into that fight after fighting the other kage, while danzo was at 100%. Not really fair was it?
Sasuke vs Naruto - quite a clean fight.
Sasuke vs Bee - he underestimated Bee. You can say he was lucky with his team-mates.
Sasuke vs Deidara - that's quite a good fight. No luck involved.
NamkazeNaruto
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Shadow clone is not the real deal , the real deal is the combo of sage mode + The cloak> Tsukuyomi is nothing to be afgraid of , Naruto can easily escape it ,And the after effect , Narto will get healed by the cloak . Naruto has an all out advantage , but Sasuke is gonna win Cuz Naruto will not hurt him
Wrong, this applies when Naruto is using the Kyuubi's chakra and is the "golden mode" or whatever you would like to call it, the new rasengan has nothing to do with the chakra exchange between him and the kyuubi, he only started training to use the new Tailed Beast Bomb Rasengan because he couldn't fully transform into the Kyuubi and instead started training to be able to use his jutsu while using the Kyuubi's chakra, which led to the Tailed Beast Bomb Rasengan, please be up to date on the manga before making a dumb response seeing as that chapter was not that long ago. It clearly states all of this in the manga within 1 chapter.
narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/519/10
read from there if you are lost so pointless questions can be avoided
And I would have to say realistically between the two Sasuke would win.
But here is what I think Sasuke's/Naruto's known strengths and weaknesses will be:
Strengths:
-Being able to completely control the fox with the EMS
-Amaterasu/Sussano'o (Ranged/Melee) seeing as he pulls out Itachi Sussano'o before the backlash from using it caused it to fade away vs Kakashi, Tuskiyomi seems like it would be worthless, I'm sure there would be a way to get out of it for Naruto
-Void of MS backlash
-Chakra more sinister than Madara's
-His intelligence
Weaknesses:
-Arrogance and anger blindsiding him, I think this is going to play a huge part in Naruto more than likely winning and getting in the way of his strategy planning skills
-Having to be able to target Naruto with his EMS for Amaterasu and Naruto being able to move so quickly it seems as though he's using the body flicker tech
-Having less chakra than Naruto in Sage/Kyuubi mode
Naruto's:
Strengths:
-Kyuubi/Sage mode/chakra
-Tailed Beast Bomb Rasengan
-Rasen Shuriken
-Being able to move close to the speed of the Body Flicker tech or being able to use BF tech
-His will to win
-His cunning
-Itachi's gift
-Jinchuuriki healing abilities
Weaknesses
-Possibility of being trapped by genjutsu and not being able to dispel it (since he lacks full control of the Kyuubi and the Kyuubi would not willingly disrupt Naruto's chakra flow for him, though the Kyuubi probably will for revenge for the Uchiha mainly Madara taking control of him on his own whim)
-Not being able to kill Sasuke or have a viable solution to stop him, and Sasuke killing him in his hesitation (I think he's probably just going to use the Dead Demon Seal, doubt it since Minato said Jinchuuriki can't use it, but it would be a way for Naruto to sacrifice himself so it's not him just killing Sasuke, or at least something like this)
Honestly I think there is going to be a twist with Sasuke, either a fight between Sasuke/Madara first and Sasuke killing Madara and then the plot moving onto Naruto vs Sasuke or Sasuke teaming back up with the Alliance against Madara for some reason.
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NamkazeNaruto
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But at that time Naruto did not have any Sage mode , Any Fox cloak . So this means that Naruto has an all-out advantage
NamkazeNaruto
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Naruto vs Oro-Naruto was in 4 tails mode and orochimaru still got beaten and was forced to retreat , no luck just abilities .
Naruto vs Kakuzu -Naruto won fair and square , even if Kakuzu was in a middle of a fight he still had 4 lives , Naruto killed him with one blow . No luck
Naruto vs pain-Naruto destroyed all 6 bodies be4 attacking the deva path, So even if The pain was in a battle be4 he had time to regenerate , still lost.
Now to Sasuke
Sasuke with oro , Oro was half dead and Sasuke admited it.
Sasuke with deidara - Deidara self destructed so Sasuke did not kill him
Sasuke with Itachi - itachi was Sick and he did not want to kill Sasuke, Sasuke did not kill him Itachi died from a disease
Sasuke vs Danzo, Danzo was half dead too plus if it wasn't for Madara's first attack and his advice to Sasuke during the battle , Sasuke would have lost .
naruto vs oro - i would call naruto transforming into 4tails luck first of all. It wasn't naruto winning, it was the fox really. And Oro was not really forced, he just retreated.
naruto vs kakuzu - so you're saying that it was fair and square to fight against someone who's in the middle of another fight
naruto vs pain - naruto destroyed a few bodies, one with the help of the toad and one with the help of the kyuubi because that's how he escaped.
Sasuke vs Oro - The same way you argue that naruto won against Kakuzu I can say that sasuke won "fair and square"
Sasuke vs Deidara - Sasuke put up a great fight and deidara used his ULTIMATE JUTSU. It happened to be self-destruction, but make no mistake, sasuke still won even before that.
Sasuke vs Itachi - Why are you arguing about this? I wrote that Itachi let Sasuke win. Are you really that needy for any argument you can get?
Sasuke vs Danzo - how was Danzo half-dead ? I don't remember this. I remember Sasuke coming in the fight after fighting 4 Kage, using his eye abilities to extremes. And what advice did madara really give ?
- If it wasn't for Pain using his shinra tensei prior to naruto's arrival and tsunade's summon giving him all the info, naruto would have lost.
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You basically took each fight out of context and turned it into Naruto's favor via opinion and by discrediting Sasuke. Nothing you said actually supported anything else you said.
In all of those fights Naruto had a clear advantage, if you looked at those fights from square 1 full chakra reservoir/abilities Naruto would have a difficult time winning.
Naruto VS Kakuzu: Naruto came in with 1 jutsu and pretty much Naruto'd him, Kakuzu could have easily gotten around it, after all he did fight the Shodai and lived.
Naruto VS Orochimaru: The battle was interrupted by Yamato pulling the "Sit" card on him, really we don't know who would have actually won. Orochimaru does know how the Four Element Seal works and could have probably sealed the Kyuubi chakra away like he did in the Forest of Death during the Chunin Exams.
Naruto VS Pain: Prior knowledge essentially won the battle, and the fact that Kyuubi came out in full force was really the only reason he lost.
In all of the Naruto VS xxx fights in which he really won it wasn't actually him it was the Kyuubi over powering whoever he was fighting with pure force, no strategy really involved what so ever.
So yes it was probably luck on Naruto's part if you put it into a reality based situation and not in one that Naruto had Main-Character-no-jutsu
Sasuke VS Orochimaru: Yes Orochimaru was half dead but he was doomed to this from the start anyway, regardless of however many bodies he went through they would always start deteriorating because of the Body Transfer Tech and the fact he has half a soul.
Sasuke VS Deidara: Good fight, Sasuke figured out Deidara's weakness from the start and used it against him, Deidara suicide bombing out of desperation is hardly Sasuke "not winning"
Sasuke VS Itachi: Itachi let him win from the start, his goal never was to kill Sasuke it was to awaken his MS and Seal away the Curse Seal and Orochimaru, the fight wasn't even based on the two opponets killing or beating each other, they both had completely different goals.
Sasuke VS Danzo: You really want to say Madara attacking once compares to having to live through an entire fight of Danzo using Izanagi and Sasuke having to chain use his MS abilities in quick succession and then out smarting Danzo with a Tsukiyomi?
Please think about your posts before you post them, it makes you look stupid when you don't.
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