[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[smokasushibushi]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts ... their "reality" may all be a MIRAGE. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?"

No, no proof whatsoever. Just interesting connections.

Something just doesn't sit right with 'Madara'-Tobi. The mystery of the Masks.

It's mainly Kabuto's recognition of him as someone else. Kisame recognizing him as the 4th Mizukage first. The coffin being something he 'doesn't have to worry about, because Kabuto hasn't told anyone yet. Kabuto's teasing that Kabuto with Edo Tensei, could be as infamous as Uchiha Madara when speaking to Tobi (not using the word 'you')

Kigami is only one of a short list of Uchiha referred to by name. Along with Fugaku, Shisui (presumed dead), Izuna (presumed dead), Obito (crushed).

Its possible that Uchiha Madara's EMS eyes are immortal, but his body was not. And he is a Frankenstein's mixture of White Zetsu clone, Uchiha and Senju dna and his only remaining non-EMS non-MS eye.

This mystery is up to Kishimoto. Its just fun to banter conjecture about.

But no proof. None claimed.

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Nice theory. I've been saying that there is a possibility Tobi might be Kagami for weeks now, but I've been shikamaru lazy and didn't feel like posting a theory. But your theory makes sense, and seems one of the most possible to happen in my opinion. +1 for you.

 

[Rami105]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Dude love the theory your a real sherlock holmes

but something in me tells me that it isn't him but still GREAT theory

 

[Rami105]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

nice

 

[shadedcrow]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

I really like our theory and maybe could add to it. The Second Hokage's name was Tobirama Senju. And Madra had a eariler alias as Tobi.

 

[BigSempire]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

i'm loving this theary man...i always say it ain't madara,kakashi told tsunadae that the man callin him self madara,itachi told sasuke that he's a shadow of madara,and kabuto also sees him as someone else...kishi is leaving hints

 

[KonanxPein]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Pretty good theory. Bonus points.

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

right. right... it would also explain why he's still hiding his face even tho everybody knows that he's "supposedly" Madara, and half way explains the techs we see him use, him(Kagami Uchiha) being the student of one of the best space time jutsu users, the 2nd hokage... Im not saying madara wouldn't be capable of these same techs/jutsu we see "Tobi" use but if tobi isn't madara it would explain why/how he(kagami uchiha) learned and knows such an advanced space time techs/jutsus. thats why i have faith in the theory i posted above there are a lot of SUBTLE clues pointing in kagami's "general" derection.lol...and we DO KNOW how Kishi-sama likes to be subtle about his BIG plot twists, and that would be a big one. i could see it panning out different ways tho too, i've also seen alot of good theories by other people, this is just the theory i like best.

im not the only one who thought this up either apparently others have too... Anyway... at least it makes more sense then a half crushed obito.lol.

Never thought about this, but i like it a lot. it'd be a massive twist as well because most are fooled. And he was danzo's teammate and you know how many secrets and shady things danzo was willing to do (mutant sharingan/1st hokage arm dna, just messed up)
maybe his MS is the space/time ability (atleast one of them either sucking himself up or sucking other people into another world) and he adapted teleporting/phasing himself off of the original MS after studying under tobirama.

so many ideas now :hug:

 

[NewKageism]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

I am glade you explain this. I was thinking about putting this in words but you pretty much showed a great theory. I said in my other thread I thought it would have been funny but now after reading your theory. Hell yea

 

[Dornier]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

this makes sense..hair style very similar...

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

this makes sense..hair style very similar...

You can't just base everything off of hair style. If you did you would see Tobi and Zetsu have the same hairstyle.

 

[McKnockout]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

hmm, interesting. I kinda hope this is true, itll spice things up alot.

 

[Xenrach]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

i wouldn't doubt this being true a lot of the manga is revolving around the second hokage 4th learning his techniques by baseing them on 2nd hokage,like another person said in this thread already (tobi) = tobirama (masashi leaving hints), the impure world ressurection tehcinque being around since part one, kagami on tobiramas team a lot of this manga revolves around him its almost too coincidental and if he really is madara why in the flip is he not using his "eternal mangekyo sharingan" its just regular sharingan yea he told the kages that he lost most of his power during the fight with hashirama but we all know he deceives and manipulates people for what he wants so its probably just an excuse to hide it, if its eternal then its eternal, not to mention everything stated by the maker of this thread amazing thread by the way

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

I really like our theory and maybe could add to it. The Second Hokage's name was Tobirama Senju. And Madra had a eariler alias as Tobi.

But Tobirama has already been resurrected once, and is now sealed forever. It can not be him.

 

[Xenrach]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

I'm thinking tobi could be Kagami and he is using the alias tobi as Kishi's subtle hint to look at things revolving around the second hokage and eventually you see tobiramas team and youll see kagami and be like oh look another uchiha ..... wait a minute hes not confirmed dead and the rest flows out

 

[Cyborg]

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Well thought out but i disagree, the character of kagami is not exactly central 2 the storyline most people( including myself) had forgotten he even existed until u mentioned him. Tobi wears a mask sure, but so does kakashi it does'nt have to mean he's someone else

 

[UchihaSasuke7]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

thank you, you also make another good point. why would "MADARA" waste the other sharingan, why where the mask a all?

He didn't waste it, he had to use it for konan otherwise he would be death, and also he wanted to transplant the rinnegan in one eye so better to use it for a good purpose at least, right?

 

[-The Agent-]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

no one knows who madara really is ​

False: Kishimoto knows.

 

[strategicvizual]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Great theory

 

[OrochiSage]

Re: Kagami Uchiha Theory - Tobi/Madara theory

Excellent, I mentioned Kagami on a "Madara might be Obito" thread.....and I just got bashed to nothingness by some senior member. Excellent theory and explanation! REP UP!!!!