How did Kakashi obtained his MS ?!

[Dornier]

may be when he witnessed rin's death...

 

[shadedcrow]

If you check the wikinaruto pages for anyone with a MS they all have the three tamoe Sharingan. Also In specific referance to Kakashi he was using his Sharingan when Itachi used his Tsukuyomi technique. <Most probable theory with proof. Also note that Tsukuyomi is MS tech... NOT a blood line limit and could be copied.

 

[jp73191]

Obito died giving kakashi the sharingan so it was not his death that awakened the mangekyou. the mangekyou only awakens with the death of someone close to you. That was stated by madara when he finished telling sasuke the truth about itachi. The only place kakashi could have obtained the mangekyou is through feeling the pain of losing sasuke to orochimaru. The fact that sasuke left and fought naruto to go to orochimaru and the pain of failure at not being able to stop him caused his mangekyou to awaken.

 

[Honord Sage]

Practice, practice if you have a sharigan, you know that it has more to offer, so you begin experimenting with it till you find one power you can use, true it normally takes an even to awaken higher powers, but by continues use of the eye you can also slowly awaken hidden powers and Kakashi is the experimenting kind of Guy, always looking for an edge in battle.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

Yeah that's correct, nobody knows the answer right now. I also hope that it'll be revealed in a special ark or something. And i wanna finally see his face

i agree 100%.. especially on seeing his true face

my best guess is that he copied itachs ms during their fight and then further developed it over the time skip

impossible.. even a sharingan cant copy KGs

I think he got it from hard training.
As, it wasn't his MS, he could do it just by trainig.

i think this is the best theory.. there most be some other way to unlock MS that Kakashi figured out without killing a close one

may be when he witnessed rin's death...

it was said u unlock MS from killing a close one. not witnessing a close one dying...

If you check the wikinaruto pages for anyone with a MS they all have the three tamoe Sharingan. Also In specific referance to Kakashi he was using his Sharingan when Itachi used his Tsukuyomi technique. <Most probable theory with proof. Also note that Tsukuyomi is MS tech... NOT a blood line limit and could be copied.

Mangekyo Sharingan is just a higher level Sharingan. they are both blood limits. you can never get MS without even having a reg S so both techniques cannot be copied.

Kakashi most likely aquired MS during the 3years period cuz he had told Sakura and Naruto in the beginning of shippuden that he had a new technique he'd been working on.

Obito died giving kakashi the sharingan so it was not his death that awakened the mangekyou. the mangekyou only awakens with the death of someone close to you. That was stated by madara when he finished telling sasuke the truth about itachi. The only place kakashi could have obtained the mangekyou is through feeling the pain of losing sasuke to orochimaru. The fact that sasuke left and fought naruto to go to orochimaru and the pain of failure at not being able to stop him caused his mangekyou to awaken.

woow this is the best best best idea yet.... Kakashi gains MS failing to stop Sasuke from leaving

Practice, practice if you have a sharigan, you know that it has more to offer, so you begin experimenting with it till you find one power you can use, true it normally takes an even to awaken higher powers, but by continues use of the eye you can also slowly awaken hidden powers and Kakashi is the experimenting kind of Guy, always looking for an edge in battle.

agreed.. but mind you this must had been very hard for Kakashi cuz hes not even a Uchiha and gained MS through means that werent standard. and there had been countless Uchihas who had tried to aquire MS through killing a friend and brother but were unsuccessful but Kakashi was successful by another way..

 

[a thousand years of death]

kakashi won it in a card game with tobi, tobi turned to make sure deidara wasnt there and kakashi used his cool no jutsu to get 4 aces and a king

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

kakashi won it in a card game with tobi, tobi turned to make sure deidara wasnt there and kakashi used his cool no jutsu to get 4 aces and a king

lol niiiice xd

 

[shadedcrow]

MS is not a blood line limit technique if it was no one outside of the blood line would be able to use it. But the can and do. Saying otherwise your disregarding logic the basis of the scientific method!.. I've been saying you more than likely need three tamo as a prerequisite for MS and its ability. The and you have to have a Sharingan before it has unlocked three taome. To be born with the sharingan isn't the only way to aquire one . With rationality and logic you can figure out MS is only limited to anyone who has a strong enough Sharingan in or out of the Uchiha clan.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

lmfaoooooo haha @freedomofspeech!!!! aka leetheg7(or8) thats why you keep getting banned and your comments keep getting erased lmaooooooo

You Mad

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

MS is not a blood line limit technique if it was no one outside of the blood line would be able to use it. But the can and do. Saying otherwise your disregarding logic the basis of the scientific method!.. I've been saying you more than likely need three tamo as a prerequisite for MS and its ability. The and you have to have a Sharingan before it has unlocked three taome. To be born with the sharingan isn't the only way to aquire one . With rationality and logic you can figure out MS is only limited to anyone who has a strong enough Sharingan in or out of the Uchiha clan.

Sharingan is a blood limit for the Uchiha clan. and you cannot get MS without getting Sharingan so MS IS ALSO A BLOOD LIMIT. but its possible for someone to aquire a sharingan eye through transplanting(Danzo, Kakashi). its possible for that transplanted sharingan to be formed into a MS (Kakashi) but MS IS STILL BLOOD LIMIT. If it is not than that means its a regular justsu that anybody outside of the Uchiha clan or anyone who doesnt have a transplanted sharingan can get. saying MS is not a blood limit makes it possible for Naruto or Neji to get MS without a regular sharingan or transplant.

 

[Stampy]

may be when he witnessed rin's death...

Hey here's a crazy idea.... It's not witnessing the death in itself that could have awakened Kakashi's MS, but the fact that he was supposed to protect her at all cost... So maybe over the time he just felt more and more guilty of her death and felt it was his fault! BAM MS !!!

I also like the idea of loosing Sasuke to Orochimaru that got to fill you up with regret sadness and other things ... (muhahahahaaaaaa REALLY? Did I just say Loosing Sasugay was worth crying for ? damn gotta stop drinking ) naaaaaaaa but could be.. Hopefully not this last point though!

 

[lorul2]

Kakashi's best friend was obito.

And Obito saw himself die too!!! HMMN!!!!

 

[yondaimeminato]

no no no no no you had me at Obito being the outcast to his clan.

Obito wasnt an outcast. he was considerably weak though compared to the average Uchiha.

just as its not in Kakashis character to kill a close one its nowhere near in Obitos either. Obito is the one who made Kakashi realize the important of not abandoning their friends.

btw Obito's dead. crushed by rocks. and he died right after unlokcing his regular sharingan powers. Rin is the one who implanted Obitos eye in Kakashi so Rin was not killed by Obito. Rin however died some time after that whole event. Obito was under boulders buried. Madara would not need his dead corspes. Madara wouldnt know what to do with a dead corspes. if anything he IF he found Obito body somehow under a pile of boulders he would take Obito's right eye but that eye was crushed soo Obito's dead body is useless.

only reason to show Kakashi Gaiden was to show how Kakashi got his sharingan, Kakashi's growth from strictly following rules to putting his friends 1st, a lil bit of the 4ths coolness and Obito was a Uchiha version of Naruto and his only purpose was to teach Kakashi not to abadon his friends and give him his sharingan to perfect the chidori. Obitos dead.

i dont think any killing was involved in Kakashi unlocking MS but i agree he must have read those Uchiha tablets and learned about the sharingan eyes. Kakashi was a heavy reader. knowing the all ninja rules by heart as a kid and always reading those Make Out Tactics.

Ok, Obito wasn't probably an outcast of the uchiha clan. I give you this much

No Obito was indeed crashed by rocks but you know in naruto manga they get thrown at to trees and nothing will happen to them to their bodies. Naruto use his rasen-shiruken against kakuzo and he didn't die. Kakashi killed him by stabbing him in his last heart with chidori. With this being said, even if Obito was crashed with a lot of rocks he would still be alive at least long enough to be rescued by madara. Ninjas/shinobis in naruto manga they do die but only in extreme cases. In real life the brute force of tsunade would be enough to kill a person but in naruto this is not the case. Jiraiya managed to survive to tsunades brute force. You are imagining obito all messed up with a blown up eye and those sort of things but you have to take into consideration that things like that don't happen in naruto manga.

I am not saying obito killed rin at that time, I am saying obito killed rin after being rescued and taken over by madara. It is possible to transfer ones soul to another alive body. Maybe madara transfer his soul to obito's body and he manipulated him ever since. Since madara knew a lot about the sharingan and he needed a MS sharingan. A manipulated obito by madara killed Rin to get the MS power.

Obito sort of made a wish, he wished to have stayed alive a little bit longer. Like in many cases, your wishes may come true but not in a way you wanted them to be.

 

[Booty Sage1914]

I think it might be awakened when you fight like you're about to die... kinda how like sayians fight til they are almost dead and they come back stronger. I also think that Kakashi's eye evolved because Obito's other eye is in use somewhere. I think the method of obtaining the MS was a lie passed down so that people would not get it and this way people competing for leadership of the Uchiha would kill each other off

 

[yondaimeminato]

I do believe that with overuse he will go blind because when he does use it he has to stop aputly from the pain...


They show both Obito and Rin's grave in Naruto Shippudean movie 3 Inheritors of the Wil of Fire

Movies and fillers are very different things from the anime and manga. They don't go along with the story line and some cases they are inaccurate since kishi are not making them.

Whether or not the movie shows the graves of Obito and Rin, if it wasn't shown in naruto manga, it's inaccurate. Which I think you might be getting confused with the big stone where all those who serve part in bringing peace to konoha, their names were imprinted in a single rock. Those graves that normally would have bodies in them are those graves like Asuma has and many others.

 

[Stampy]

Ok, Obito wasn't probably an outcast of the uchiha clan. I give you this much

No Obito was indeed crashed by rocks but you know in naruto manga they get thrown at to trees and nothing will happen to them to their bodies. Naruto use his rasen-shiruken against kakuzo and he didn't die. Kakashi killed him by stabbing him in his last heart with chidori. With this being said, even if Obito was crashed with a lot of rocks he would still be alive at least long enough to be rescued by madara. Ninjas/shinobis in naruto manga they do die but only in extreme cases. In real life the brute force of tsunade would be enough to kill a person but in naruto this is not the case. Jiraiya managed to survive to tsunades brute force. You are imagining obito all messed up with a blown up eye and those sort of things but you have to take into consideration that things like that don't happen in naruto manga.

I am not saying obito killed rin at that time, I am saying obito killed rin after being rescued and taken over by madara. It is possible to transfer ones soul to another alive body. Maybe madara transfer his soul to obito's body and he manipulated him ever since. Since madara knew a lot about the sharingan and he needed a MS sharingan. A manipulated obito by madara killed Rin to get the MS power.

Obito sort of made a wish, he wished to have stayed alive a little bit longer. Like in many cases, your wishes may come true but not in a way you wanted them to be.

Dude Obito's dead get real... Kakashi and Rin got out from obito's crushed body already and then it got crushed AGAIN by another rock slide... No he is dead.... But maybe JUST maybe his eye had been put to some use by someone else (tobi perhaps?) which brings me to this:

I think it might be awakened when you fight like you're about to die... kinda how like sayians fight til they are almost dead and they come back stronger. I also think that Kakashi's eye evolved because Obito's other eye is in use somewhere. I think the method of obtaining the MS was a lie passed down so that people would not get it and this way people competing for leadership of the Uchiha would kill each other off

In this quote you say Kakashi's eye evolved because Obito's other eye is in use somewhere. I kindaaaaaa like the idea of it but it is far fetched. Maybe IF someone took Obito's right eye then killed either Rin or that specific guy's best friend that COULD awaken BOTH sharingan's. But frankly I am skeptical but why not?! It's another good theory let's consider it.
But when you said it could awaken when you fight as you are about to die, again I think we would have had much more MSs in the Narutoverse.

 

[Stampy]

Oh and by the way, I don't think that even IF (and that's a big IF) Obito was still alive either in his body (lol ....) or his soul trapped somewhere else in another body, he would NEVER kill Rin he was in love with her he would rather die better than gain power this way... let's remember he is the one who made Kakashi the good looking guy who cares for others

 

[yondaimeminato]

Oh and by the way, I don't think that even IF (and that's a big IF) Obito was still alive either in his body (lol ....) or his soul trapped somewhere else in another body, he would NEVER kill Rin he was in love with her he would rather die better than gain power this way... let's remember he is the one who made Kakashi the good looking guy who cares for others

A lot of my theory, I base it on orochimaru's way of almost being immortal. When orochimaru tried to possess sasuke's body, he made a ritual to transfer his soul inside sasuke's body. The ritual began and the winner was sasuke. Sasuke locked orochimaru's soul deep inside of him.

Something similar to this could have happened with madara and obito. Madara could have transfer his soul to obito and the winner in this case would be madara and then locked obito deep inside of him. It was no longer obito who was doing the action but madara in obito's body. It was nearly impossible for obito to have done something to stop madara from killing Rin to obtain MS.

I am going to repeat myself not all uchihas are capable of awakening MS. Madara could not just take any Uchiha body and hoped to obtain MS powers.

 

[ReLax -]

Hahaha now we know how he gained in. He went on a rampage and shit got serious....Kaboom MS came in play LOLLL! This time it maybe the EMS lmfaoo

 

[yondaimeminato]

Dude Obito's dead get real... Kakashi and Rin got out from obito's crushed body already and then it got crushed AGAIN by another rock slide... No he is dead.... But maybe JUST maybe his eye had been put to some use by someone else (tobi perhaps?) which brings me to this:

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as you can see on this picture all the rocks are being pushed away from where obito was crashed.