Sasuke's idiocy

[~Yuuki Kiryu~]

I'm a Sasuke fan and all bt your 100% correct. Sasuke is a really big dumb ass when it comes to this... yea..not much of a fan now. Dude! You have opened my eyes!
O.O

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

I'm a Sasuke fan and all bt your 100% correct. Sasuke is a really big dumb ass when it comes to this... yea..not much of a fan now. Dude! You have opened my eyes!
O.O

dont be crazy he is just lying he doesnt even have his info right. sasuke was lied too by madara about the attack 16 years ago. i posted this on the end of the first page. check into it. this guy doesnt read with his eyes

 

[Kakuzu Jr]

I think Itachi is the idiot. He should of looked beyond his love for his brother and think about what's best for the leaf village and the rest of the world and killed Sasuke and used his eyes to be strongest ninja in series and genocide Akatsuki himself.

but alas.. the plot would shorten and the series would end early so it couldn't be done.

I'm not much of a Sasuke fan because, well. Would you really like and/or respect someone with that personality in real life? He's never been nice to anyone and pretty much was designed to be hated. Naruto's plot kinda reminds me of Suikoden 2's, and I used to think he was planning something on the inside to help in the end, but pretty much looks like pure reckless rage alone with no rational thought. ;s

In his defense somewhat though, the leaf elders are dirty and probably more leaf higher ups had their 'racism' towards Uchihas and vice versa. With how the leaf village was it would be destined to eventually spark some kind of civil war with the Uchihas. Madara just speeded it up. Killing Danzo wasn't a bad thing, and the other elders can die too, idc. Wanting to kill Sakura and everyone in his village is a bit much. XD

 

[shadedcrow]

Its not all for nothing theres more than likely a reason yet to be revealed(other than vengeance) for Sauskes accumulation of power just like Naruto. As far as Sauske wanting the destruction of the leaf he's just acting according to human nature. It might be the darkerside of nature but its the inherent to all beings as well as being a great person to contrast and compliment to Naruto. Look at how they were Sauske was usually calm and collected and is loosing that as if gives into hate and darkness. Naruto is learning to control himself and his emotions and the ninetails. And who/what things people hate are just a matter what degree of empathy do you have in relation to your point of view.

 

[shadedcrow]

Am I the only person who sees compassion in the choice Itachi made with his clan?

 

[Kakuzu Jr]

Am I the only person who sees compassion in the choice Itachi made with his clan?

compassion that could get thousands of innocent people killed.

 

[Lostdreams]

Hes(sasuke) is acting like a spoiled kid.
Yeah bad thing happen to his people but, he seems to forget the fact that all the bad things that happened to the Uchiha clan is self inflicted.

Its like being mad at a cops for shooting your dad who was pointing at them with a gun.

 

[Reborn]

nice theory but you read what you wanna read. everything was right up until when you said madara admiitted to the attack . madara told sasuke that he or the uchihas had nothing to do with the fox attacking the village he just said it was a natural disaster. so he actually lied to sasuke and sasuke believed him because he was at his most vunerable stage plus madara is the boss at manipluatiing ppl thats like second nature. but when sasuke asked madara that he used the fox to attack the village and he even said this was all apart of your plot. madara then lied to sasuke and said no i had nothing to do with it it was a natural disaster. Reborn please read with your eyes instead of seeing whatever you wanna see.

this is were sasuke conforted madara about it. and madara lied to sasuke about the attack on the village.

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and this is were madara told sasuke that the uchiha were completely blameless and that the fox came on its own.

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*note* during the entire conversation madara reveals his sharingan to sasuke over and over. could it be possible madara is controlling him with his genjutsu and sasuke doesnt even know it.

*****reborn**** read with your eyes before you start hating on sasuke and you dont got you info correct. sasukes stupid but madara is manipluatiing this situation. he is the true mastermind.

calm down scrap I confused what Itachi with Madara. That was a while ago I didn't read the manga as I was makeing the thread. I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong but what I don't think he Madara's Sharingan had anything to do with Sasuke's decision seeing as Itachi placed the Amertersu key on Sasuke activateing whever Sasuke see's Madara's Sharingan (or is it whenever Madara's sharingan is activated around him). I guess Sasuke figured out due to Itachi about the Kyuubi attack but we know Sasuke knows about Madara and the Kyuubi. He took Itachi's side in the accusation but still chose to work with Madara. I'm also not saying that Madara isn't a freaking magician when it comes to mind tricks but come on we're seeing Sasuke fall for more and more crap by the minute that's still stupid and I've hated Sasuke from the minute he fought Naruto at the Valley of End.

This ain't a theory this is how I feel about Sasuke and his crap.

 

[Reborn]

dont be crazy he is just lying he doesnt even have his info right. sasuke was lied too by madara about the attack 16 years ago. i posted this on the end of the first page. check into it. this guy doesnt read with his eyes

One more thing scrap I won't be called a lier I made a mistake dosn't make me a lier. Your facts weren't straight when you said his Sharingan was activated throughout the conversation. take another look it wasn't or at least you couldn't tell due to the whole being darkened so you can't tell. Calm down before you call somebody a lier.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

calm down scrap I confused what Itachi with Madara. That was a while ago I didn't read the manga as I was makeing the thread. I'm big enough to admit when I'm wrong but what I don't think he Madara's Sharingan had anything to do with Sasuke's decision seeing as Itachi placed the Amertersu key on Sasuke activateing whever Sasuke see's Madara's Sharingan (or is it whenever Madara's sharingan is activated around him). I guess Sasuke figured out due to Itachi about the Kyuubi attack but we know Sasuke knows about Madara and the Kyuubi. He took Itachi's side in the accusation but still chose to work with Madara. I'm also not saying that Madara isn't a freaking magician when it comes to mind tricks but come on we're seeing Sasuke fall for more and more crap by the minute that's still stupid and I've hated Sasuke from the minute he fought Naruto at the Valley of End.

This ain't a theory this is how I feel about Sasuke and his crap.

true but do you think if sasuke knew madara was the one who did all of this(kyuubi attack 16 years ago) do you really think he would actually follow madara. sasukes been lied to his entire life if anything he is a the biggest victim of that era. it was madara who got the uchiha blamed for the attack and also dragged itachi down with it and made him kill his clan. if sasuke knew all of this i dont think he would of joined madara. that is why madara doesnt want kabuto anywhere near sasuke cuz hes afraid that the real truth will come out. i know i have repeated it but if sasuke did in fact know that madara was the reason that his clan got killed i dont think he would of joined up. madara is using sasuke. i aslo ment during the entire convo so page 1 of the whole thing from when sasuke woke up to the end of the convo it shows madara's eye opening up at least three times read that entire conversation again. from start to finish. reborn. your hating on sasuke before your not empathizing. put yourself in sasukes shoes.

 

[shadedcrow]

Am I the only person who sees compassion in the choice Itachi made with his clan?

 

[Reborn]

true but do you think if sasuke knew madara was the one who did all of this(kyuubi attack 16 years ago) do you really think he would actually follow madara. sasukes been lied to his entire life if anything he is a the biggest victim of that era. it was madara who got the uchiha blamed for the attack and also dragged itachi down with it and made him kill his clan. if sasuke knew all of this i dont think he would of joined madara. that is why madara doesnt want kabuto anywhere near sasuke cuz hes afraid that the real truth will come out. i know i have repeated it but if sasuke did in fact know that madara was the reason that his clan got killed i dont think he would of joined up. madara is using sasuke

I'm pointing out that Sasuke dosn't make the best decisions...From what I've seen I honestly do think Sasuke would be that type of person to disregard such things. Also just because he's a victim dosn't mean he should act like it that's makeing him look even weaker. Naruto didn't have ANYONE really you forget how much shyt he's been through. Sasuke was admired by everybody, he's always had the affection of Sakura and gained the affection of Naruto. Sasuke always had somebody to help him but he never took it he never opened to anybody. Sure Naruto gained his friends and earned everybody's affection but he started out with nothing. Naruto had to work at it. Sasuke acts like he's strong but he's playing the role of the victim Naruto's not. Naruto's always been superior to Sasuke when it comes to willpower.

Sasuke's a fictional character why put myself in shoes that don't exist. Pluse I'm entitled to my oppinion, which by the way is what I was posting in this thread. I'm not changeing my mind about Sasuke until he stops thinking with his ass.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

Am I the only person who sees compassion in the choice Itachi made with his clan?

nah i see it aswelll cuz if itachi didnt do what he did. there would be no naruto no shikamaru, no neji no rock lee no none of that. the civil war would have ignited the 4th ninja war and alot of ppl would have been dead. but these ppl dont realize that. they dont see the bigger picture

 

[Reborn]

Itachi's a decent guy I like him, not his brother.

goin to bed, night erbody.

 

[shadedcrow]

its not just that he delayed the 4th ninja world war but he also preserved the name of his clan. And I guess not many people see him killing his clan out of love rather than watching them die in a battle of hate.

 

[Solo]

Sasuke is most likely just using Madara, just like he did Orochimaru. I like Sasuke back in Part 1(not Shippuden), because he used his brain not eyes. After his fight with Itachi... idk what happen to him.

Take his fight with Killer Bee for example:

He remember how much trouble he had fighting Naruto. Why would he recklessly go up to another jinchuuriki thinking he can beat him. Especially, when he "barely" won his last three fights. Itachi, by the grace of Itachi he won. Deidara, barely. Orochimaru, he had to wait to he was sick to fight him.(Which was smart.) Sasuke isn't using his head, he just wants power as fast as possible.

I won't even start with the kages.... smh.

 

[-Yard-]

I just want to bring up how completly retarded I think Sasuke Uchiha is.

Now we all know that Madara is to blame for the Uchiha's being executed, and Itachi being labled a traitor. After Madara was exciled from his clan he came back and took control of the Kyuubi causing the Fourth to loose his life along with his wife, leaving their son an orphan (By the way I want to know how he was raised if everybody hated him and didn't give a damn about him). Now it's been known to Konoha that the Uchiha's had to power to control the Kyuubi demon with the Mangekyo Sharingan. With nobody knowing or even believing that Madara was still alive Konoha had to assume the worst from the Uchiha's believing that they would rebell or had planned for everything to happen that did. Placeing them in an isolated area away from everybody else in the village. All of this a part of Madara's plot. Madara also knew that the Uchiha's would get pissed and plan a coup de ta against the village. The village also knew this and thought "In order to prevent Civil war and other nations from closeing in on our ass we need to get rid of these guys" They hired Itachi to get rid of everybody, oh wait Madara helped his ass in killing every single Uchiha brother of theirs. Madara went back into the shadows after that, Itachi seen as a traitor by everybody including his brother and Sasuke falling into a deep depression, festering into hate and vengence obssession. Madara also let Sasuke and Itachi fight. I'll be damned if Madara didn't know about Itachi's sick ass about to die. After Itachi died Madara went to Sasuke told him everything that happened including about how he took control over the Kyuubi and caused the attack on the village. Sasuke's dumb 16 year old ass dosn't put together or dosn't care about the fact...If Madara kept his evil ass away from the village the Uchiha clan would never have been trated like trash and they would have never gotten pissed and planned a coup, never have been assassinated, Sasuke would never have been lied to or have had to go after his brother because they would still be all good and have no need to fight each other and he wouldn't be feeling the pain he feels every god damn day. No Sasuke chooses to get pissed at Konoha and go after all his friends, who for the last 3 years have been trying to save him from Orochimaru and bring him back to the village and the entire village instead of the source of his pain. I don't know if he's dumb or just that damn easy to manipulate.

If you haven't guessed I'm one of Sasuke's biggest haters and I think he needs to die in the most painful way possible or just disapear.

Tell me how you feel about this and if you agree.

maybe at the end naruto will explain this too him and him and naruto will go kill the madara.
and then when sasuke is worn out naruto will slit his throat....

no one needs a ninja that is that dumb.
and even if naruto did some how bring him back too the village, sasuke would be placed in prison for leaving the village, joining orochimaru and killing 100's of people and one of konohas elders.

but i bet if sasuke did come back and was placed in prison naruto would be visiting him every day and laughing at old memories while sasuke, *sitting behind 10inch of chakra proof glass* cursing naruto out for bringing him back and telling him how he is forever on his shit list.
and naruto *living in a fantasy land* would just ignore him and keep laughing.

 

[Afternoontiger]

why do you hate flat ass ungrateful ass Sakura. She startin to step up she ain't a little Sasuke groupie like she used to be lol. I love Hinata but Sakura's my girl too she do what it do.

Because while I hate Sasuke he still have redeeming qualities, he's smart, he's powerful. Sakura has always been useless, now she's slightly less useless.

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[Allan Hoshigaki]

sasuke is the last uchiha besides madara with the eternal mangekyou sharingan your not taking him out that easy. and he almost killed kakashi if his eyes didnt go out.