[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 515 Discussion/ 516 Predictions

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Naruto won't need FTG. But a better teleportation will probably be seen. One surpassing Minato's FTG.

What? Did you just say he used a teleportation tech from the So6p? NO HE DIDN'T :flaw:
That was a Shunshin. Quick movement, not a teleport tech. Translation error by ***********. lol haha
 

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Why is it that petty arguments are rampant on these forums? *shakes head* It doesn't really matter if PositiveEmotions made a mistake in his typing. And I agree it would be pretty sweet to see Naruto use FTG or some other equally awesome Time-Space Ninjutsu.
 

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It wasn't a mistake in his typing. It was a mistake in his reply.

BUT it would be pretty awesome if he used a s/t ninjutsu. Or even bettered FTG like he did the Rasengan.
 

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How would you better the FTG?
I did some research on it (Read: Read Kakashi Gaiden and Kushina's talk with Naruto over and doing some theorizing) and it appears to be a self-summoning fuuinjutsu, so the fuuin-shiki is needed; there's simply no way to cut it out without changing the fundamentals of the jutsu. I suppose he could create a time-space jutsu similar to Madara's and call it the FTG, but...
 

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It was a suggestion. But yeah a seal's fundamentals and all that ...

I just think he'll not need to perform FTG or whatever. I think he'll need something better.
That's just me.
 

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I know where suppose to be following the manga but according to the anime, that fourth coffin was numbered 4th...to be honest im 100% sure it was the minato in that coffin..oro would summon the previous hokages to fight the 3rd..It wouldn't make any sense to revive any other during the "distruction of konoha" What the best way to destroy konoha? my answer " allowing the previous hokages who believed so much of the fire of will to destroy it themselves" just my 2 cents
I think your right. I always thought that the 3rd coffin was the 4th hokage and that assumption was laid on so thick that everyone had to assume that was the case. For a logical person, there is absolutely no doubt about it and that's why they added that to the anime.

As for the reason, I think it was a manga 'oversight' if you will. Kishi wanted something really exciting to happen in that fight. Since he had Oro summon the coffins in succession like that (unlike how Kabuto summons them all at once) there was no way he'd just go 1 and 2; there's gotta be three to make that moment of suspense successful. I think he fully intended it to be the 4th but underestimated the possible consequences of adding this detail.

I totally agree with everyone that the 1st through 4th, Oro and Kushina cannot and will not be summoned. I don't think that third coffin will ever be explained mostly because he wants us to forget about it already.
 
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I think we overeacting about Kabuto summonings cause I beleive that they are not at full power prolly less than 50% of their original power. I mean 3rd Hokage fought 1st and 2nd hokage plus Oro all by himself and defeated them expect Oro of course. but really first Hokage is like second strongest shinobi in history after SOAP and his bro is pretty tough as well. So yeah I doubt they are at their full power and If Nagato was able to destroy leaf village by himself imagine what he can on battlefield if he was at his best. he can just destroy the entire joint force by himself!!!!

Tell me your thoughts friends
 

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I think we overeacting about Kabuto summonings cause I beleive that they are not at full power prolly less than 50% of their original power. I mean 3rd Hokage fought 1st and 2nd hokage plus Oro all by himself and defeated them expect Oro of course. but really first Hokage is like second strongest shinobi in history after SOAP and his bro is pretty tough as well. So yeah I doubt they are at their full power and If Nagato was able to destroy leaf village by himself imagine what he can on battlefield if he was at his best. he can just destroy the entire joint force by himself!!!!

Tell me your thoughts friends
This is exactly what I said before the summons most probably don't have the full powers if so a old Sarutobi beating the First and Second Hokage seems impossible. In any case every jutsu has its weakness the more powerful a tech the bigger its weakness. I think its just a matter of time when we will see Kabuto beaten or his Edo Tensei beaten either by Naruto, Sasuke or Madara himself.
 

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I think we overeacting about Kabuto summonings cause I beleive that they are not at full power prolly less than 50% of their original power. I mean 3rd Hokage fought 1st and 2nd hokage plus Oro all by himself and defeated them expect Oro of course. but really first Hokage is like second strongest shinobi in history after SOAP and his bro is pretty tough as well. So yeah I doubt they are at their full power and If Nagato was able to destroy leaf village by himself imagine what he can on battlefield if he was at his best. he can just destroy the entire joint force by himself!!!!

Tell me your thoughts friends
IF you look at the facts and whbi Kishi has said, Saruto Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, was pretty much enbeatable during his prime. His jutsu library was as extensive as his expirience and knowledge. Senju Hashirama and Senju Tobirama were powerful, but htey weren't as good as the Sandaime even in their prime. There's a reason he's known as the Shinobi no Kami, or the God of Shinobi.:p
 

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This is exactly what I said before the summons most probably don't have the full powers if so a old Sarutobi beating the First and Second Hokage seems impossible. In any case every jutsu has its weakness the more powerful a tech the bigger its weakness. I think its just a matter of time when we will see Kabuto beaten or his Edo Tensei beaten either by Naruto, Sasuke or Madara himself.
That is also what I thought at first" that those summonings are not strong as the originals", but I changed my opinion depending on some reasons the first is that if u watch the Orochimaru sarutobi fight u will see that orochimaru is fully controlling the first and the second, he even seems to be controlling their every move because there were not fighting as he spoke, the fight didn't last long oro only used one jutsu and saru only used three other than his summon enma which are his katon the fire dragon napalm, his earth wall, and the death demon seal, because the third noticed right away that he had to use the seal to kill them and oro was exited to see jutsu that he is unfamiliar with so he didn't have the hokages attack the third. There is another reason that the hokage brothers was at their full strength is that even the anbu commander was surprised of their high level of chakra and of their ability to perform high level of jutsus.
The last thing is that if u look at the revived deidara who fought with tsuchikage u will see that he was able to form a bomb that flipped the turtle island upside down so must be at his full strength to do that.
 
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