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Interesting theory but i have to say that in my opinion,it has one problem..(maybe i am wrong,only kishi knows).
To explain it a bit..In chapter 510,we saw Madara/Tobi to say to Nagato that he is the third of the six paths..In other words,he told us that possesses the three of the six paths..
According to your theory,Madara possesses 4 of the six paths as he has the rinnengan,senju dna and of couse as an uchiha the dna and the sharingan..The only missing are the 3rd eye and the juubi.
So your theory has a 'small' problem,doesnt it?

One more thing that i would like to discuss with you guys is what if all this is an illusion coming from Madara's Izanagi.I dont really want to believe it but why do he has all these sharingans on his basement?
Im new, but if u jus take a look at my post above, itz some what similar 2 wat u r sayn.

Im wondering what powers did Itachi gave 2 Naruto? Can any1 tel me! I mean it could also b dat itachi is 1 f d 6 path n is in Naruto.
 
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Interesting theory but i have to say that in my opinion,it has one problem..(maybe i am wrong,only kishi knows).
To explain it a bit..In chapter 510,we saw Madara/Tobi to say to Nagato that he is the third of the six paths..In other words,he told us that possesses the three of the six paths..
According to your theory,Madara possesses 4 of the six paths as he has the rinnengan,senju dna and of couse as an uchiha the dna and the sharingan..The only missing are the 3rd eye and the juubi.
So your theory has a 'small' problem,doesnt it?

One more thing that i would like to discuss with you guys is what if all this is an illusion coming from Madara's Izanagi.I dont really want to believe it but why do he has all these sharingans on his basement?
I agree with you...I haven't considered that fact when I thought at this theory. to be honest, I don't think that madara will be a reincarnation of so6p...I was just trying to offer an alternative to everyone's thoughts. the variant that JABZNARUTO offered is more plausible: certain symbols(steps) that must be achieved during lifetime. I like his theory...looking forward to hear from him.
anyway: rinnegan, senju dna and sharingan(or uchiha dna) are certain paths -->madara says that nagato is the 3rd path(rinnegan), he stole hashirama's powers(dna for sure) and he is an uchiha(dna or sharingan).
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your theory is very interesting and might be true. but in my opinion, the paths aren't symbols(if we can call them this way). I think the paths are:

1.rinnegan
2.sharingan
3.byakugan
4.senju dna
5.juubi (we all know that s06p had the juubi in him until the moment he died? and divided him in the tailed beasts--->madara's hunt for them)
6.madara's original body??? (the need of gedo rinne that he spoke of) or perhaps the uchiha dna...this would be more plausible.

the first three give him the eyes, and the last three the body. I'm not very sure about the last one, so please argue with me :D
its as simple as you said ... only the 6th i dont think they will put sharingan and madaras body in the six paths ... maybe special chakra will be the sixth but i really dont know what could be the 6th.

i also think that the byakugan will be one of those paths, it doasnt matter if there are 0 strong hyugas. but if it will be the eyes from neji because his are the strongest ever. maybe he will be able to get some stronger byakugan xd

the source about the strongest byakugan found on wikipedia :p so this is only what could be :)
 
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Yes that's right Madra said that Nagato was the 3rd SO6P so that means the first was Rikudo, second was Madara and 3rd was Nagato. And I don't think that the Byakugan will come into play seriously it was suppose to be as strong as the Sharingan but so far in this manga Byakugan has been sorta disappointing and now the manga has come too far to show now that Byakugan is also an important element. And most probably Madara uses all those extra Sharingans in his basement to replace those eyes with which he uses Izanagi only this time he replaced the Sharingans with the Rinnegan.
Im going to correct you on what madara said.

Madara said "nagato is the 3rd of 6 paths". Its not the 3rd so6p (sage of six path). Its not the same due to the fact that nagato didn't have all the 6 paths that madara is currently trying to get..Nagato only had 1 which was the rinnegan so therefore hes just the 3rd path.To be called the so6p you must have all 6 paths.

Theres only one so6p and that was the rikudou sennin because he had all 6th paths.

currently madara has 2 out of the 6th pathshttp://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/510/12 . Here are the 2 he obtained so far.

1. senju hashirama

2. himself (madara is one of the paths to begin with)

now that he has the rinnegan which made nagato 1 of the 6th paths madara now has a total of 3 paths.

1. senju hashirama (power of senju clan directly from youngest brother)

2. himself (power of uchiha clan directly from elder brother)

3. Nagato ( power of rinnegan)

These are the current 3 paths not the 3 so6p. Hope this clears up the confusion among the two.
 

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hmmm.... six paths?....maybe:

1st - hashirama
2nd - madara
3rd - nagato
4th - sasuke
5th - naruto
6th - juubi

i wonder if it has a relation to Pain's six paths puppets...
 

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Im wondering what powers did Itachi gave 2 Naruto? Can any1 tel me! I mean it could also b dat itachi is 1 f d 6 path n is in Naruto.
I think maybe Naruto knows what Itachi gave him
cause of the fact that Naruto tells Saskai (487)"if we fight again were both going to die"
(488) then he tells the Leaf crew travelin with him after Neji asks what went on , Naruto says that he'll tell them what happend "when the time is right"
then Sakura says Naruto "what are you hiding"
Think it might Literally be a killer move , kinda like the Dead Demon sumon

the only time we ever here the word Sage other then The 6 Paths is when it had 2 do with summon jutzu like the TOAD SAGE

is it possible that since Nagato was able to summon as his ultimate power that the 6 Paths are related to summoning techniques ???
Just a guess
would love sum feedback
 
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hmmm.... six paths?....maybe:

1st - hashirama
2nd - madara
3rd - nagato
4th - sasuke
5th - naruto
6th - juubi

i wonder if it has a relation to Pain's six paths puppets...
I think theres a little relation but i wouldn't count on it. pains 6th paths was a technique he used. Theres actually 7 paths with nagato being the 7th path

1st path. Diva aka yahiko
2nd path. Animal aka summoning
3rd path. Hungry aka absorbing
4th path. asura aka missles/laser head etc
5th path. naraka aka the judgement
6th path. Human aka the one who can read mines
7th path. Nagato himself in which he controls life and death (rinne tensei technique)

pains paths are based on six Buddhist paths of Reincarnation so I dont think it dirrectly has a link between the paths needed to obtain so6p powers. (just my opinion)
 

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I would rate the manga around 3 stars, i think we have all seen enough flashbacks on Nagato's life and it's about time we started to see some progress in terms of Sasuke. I mean i have been waiting for what seems like years to see his eternal mangekyou and we could have a very compelling arc coming up shortly. In terms of Madara's mask, i have a feeling that he would look worse without it on, but only time will tell.
 

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I agree with you...I haven't considered that fact when I thought at this theory. to be honest, I don't think that madara will be a reincarnation of so6p...I was just trying to offer an alternative to everyone's thoughts. the variant that JABZNARUTO offered is more plausible: certain symbols(steps) that must be achieved during lifetime. I like his theory...looking forward to hear from him.
anyway: rinnegan, senju dna and sharingan(or uchiha dna) are certain paths -->madara says that nagato is the 3rd path(rinnegan), he stole hashirama's powers(dna for sure) and he is an uchiha(dna or sharingan).
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Good day Snake Oro Sannin!

...others are invited to join the discussion, especially MShark, 4bdN, Haris7, Sennin Jinchuuriki, Yukimaru Yoshi et al..

It was a good elaboration Snake Oro..
Your unification of eye powers and the dna of clans tracing back to the rikudo sennin's sons -- were great theories of the paths.

Going back with the eye powers -- I think that rinnegan is the best, BUT, we all know that kishi could possibly inject byakugan and sharingan as equally potent in terms of power. The idea I would like to stress here is that "the eye power" depends on "the USER".
Unification is a good term.. but a deeper thought would be "evolution" of these eye powers. Byakugan or Sharingan or Rinnegan could evolve into a more powerful doujutsu -- even though we all know these eye powers are somewhat interconnected in lineal terms (without questioning whichever comes first). Storylines state.. Rinnegan was the SO6P's eyes..and that is a fact not an opinion. However, we could have a theory of byakugan evolving to rinnegan..or sharingan to rinnegan. Interesting right?
In the manga's storylines state too that... nagato's rinnegan was not as powerful as that of the SO6P's rinnegan-- agree??
Then madara said that nagato was the 3rd path...
...according to you(pls correct me) nagato's rinnegan is the 3rd path
...in my views, it was "nagato's SACRIFICE" that seemed to be the path and rinnegan was just a token of this path.

In short, rinnegan is the most powerful eye doujutsu -- but it still "the USER" who emphasize this power( in this case, SO6P > nagato, therefore nagato is not the SO6P's reincarnation).

With the body part,,
I like your "emphasis" of the "dna" -- the blueprint of the body, of life, of the path. The senju and the uchiha clan's dna + juubi = the path. nice one...
But I really think that the SO6P was not the jinchuuriki of all the bijuu's chakra and will. I guess that the juubi is one of his powers, but not his path.

Yukimaru Yoshi's Buddhist paths are also interesting. But did you mean 7 pains = 7 paths Yuki? nagato is the 7t pain, the controller of life and death within a span of limited time.. but is not a path, neither are his other pains I think. Please elaborate..

Snake Oro.. one question for the day.. when you equate juubi to the "dna" thing.. which jinchuuriki's dna were you refering?
I hope to discuss with you, my 2nd path - Hatred - next time.

til then
 

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sorry too disappoint you Floydical but the 2 and 3 tail wheren't sealed in same time...actualy 3 tail was sealed after 2 tail after a time period according to naruto shippuden series
Im talking about the manga, your talking about the anime. In the anime, they sealed the 3 and 4 at the same time. In the manga, they sealed the 2 and 3 at the same time:



Truthfully, the sealing of the 2 and 3 together makes more sense to the story; the the makers of anime love to screw up the order of how things happened in the manga.
 

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i still find it funny that some people around the forums here actaully think that, there are really 6 paths that represent different people.
so basicly you all wanna say the so6p had some naruto in his body some ****** some madara? pff bs theory
 

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Not really Kakashi was just saying that the Sharingan came from the Byakugan that doesn't necessarily mean that Byakugan is stronger. And the Rinnegan seems to be the most powerful of the eyes.
yah i know rinnegan seems to be the most powerful eye but its strange not to exist no one holder of rinnegen, instead there is much sharingan's holders, and also it seemed that madara controled nagato like he controled the kyuuby, thats why that i think the history seems to try and make the sharingan the most powerful why because of all their different powers, sharingan, ms, ems, etc, but i never seen any variations on byakugan or rinnengan.

And i know that kakashy didnt say that byakugan was stronger, but the description he made it looked like it was stronger, by saying byakugan could see things sharingan doesnt and also byakugan has a big radius of watching, thats why i said that, they made us look that neji was the strongest and then he almost disapered.
 
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