[Game] Mafia game 11x4 aka game #44

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Ekkologix

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namely here and then you continue with seemingly wanting to support their push but not feeling confident enough
that would be correct, i feel uneasy about the push on a player that isn't playing and don't like that alexis isn't doing anything else with the rest of the players. what's scummy about it?
 

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also it's possible but low chance that alexis is bussing a dead weight teammate
 

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a broken clock is right twice a day
(not to insult alexis but like if you town read elmage you should not want to give that vote but if you scum read him then you should. Idk, its the same relative chance of being wrong as this whole game unless you think they are power wolfing.
i dont town read elmage, where did u get that from?

he's null for me and like i said i feel uneasy about it. if he is wolf great! if he isn't then we don't learn much next day, again what's scummy about that? not a fan of your reentrance
 

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all your wagon on me does in this dead game is force me to self-pres on elmage as i doubt i'll get traction where i want specially so if elmage is an inactive town
 

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all your wagon on me does in this dead game is force me to self-pres on elmage as i doubt i'll get traction where i want specially so if elmage is an inactive town
I would hope that you would make that decision.
 

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I would hope that you would make that decision.
haze vote on me makes me wanna vote elmage more than anything you've said

i hope town stop listening to you even if elmage flips scum you'll continue pushing forward and not reassess the derail attempt from him
 

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Alexis has been pushing Elmage lynch for 2 days, and now all of a sudden before EOD he changes vote to Ekko after Haze voted him. It seems very suspicious to me.
Yes, Alexis has been saying he considers Ekko scum, but he has been voting Elmage, not Ekko, and now a change. I'm not liking it
 

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What happened to voting Alexis?
we won't have traction for it without elmage

and at this point id rather lose to alexis than elmage if the guy isnt gonna show up

lame as heck that he isn't subbed but w.e
 

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this response to a simple question sounds panicky

i dont think its weird/suspicious that only wg players died, actually whats weird is how you framed it. it's not like any random wg player died, it's specifically the 2 most active and town read players at the time flower and fuji who died. there is not a single non-wg player i can imagine dying before them in this game state so your statement is obv bogus and you realized it which is why you're being overtly defensive here and changing goal posts

wats fishy about my treatment of you and alexis?

can you evidence the bolded? i only called your NKA weird, and idk if it's necessarily scummy or not for you. i haven't made that assessment yet which is bizzare to me why you're responding so strongly instead of just answering a simple question if you believed in your original statement
the issue I have with you, is your unnecessary remarks to everything I said previously, and your continous questioning of obviously nitpicky things with no real relevance. you wouldn't do this if you didn't have a motive. I know how Ekko opperates and how later down the line you'd turn a 180 on me.

aslong you think everything I say, or however I frame it is weird, we won't be getting along this game. previous games are hardproving this.

also flooding me with multiple questions per post is not very towny.

what you did was voting Alexis and then doing your rej/haze twist scheme, which feels kinda setupish to me

the evidences are all over the place tho, the fact all you do is questioning and setting up a scheme, but you bring no real conclusions to the table, you jump from question to question to question, make remarks and that in all feels schemy.
why're u holding him to standards he probably doesn't know. he only saw me in 1 game and he misread me in it. why is it asspull as opposed to him simply being unaware of my meta?

i dont intend to suffocate you like alexis does to people but your recent posts have honestly been pretty lack luster
because you and Lucidus have the a similair scheming angle towards me because of the Haze townread

so naturally one of my options is that you guys could be wolf together
 

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Alexis has been pushing Elmage lynch for 2 days, and now all of a sudden before EOD he changes vote to Ekko after Haze voted him. It seems very suspicious to me.
Yes, Alexis has been saying he considers Ekko scum, but he has been voting Elmage, not Ekko, and now a change. I'm not liking it
i dont think they will be this obvious about it but what do i know
 

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The changing your mind thing is natural, if you truly feel that someone else is making better plays than yourself then its understandable. I find it hard to fathom truly putting your own instincts and reads behind you in favor of someone else's though.

Is Tiara known as flower elsewhere? Sorry im not familiar with their alternative name but you immediately put your trust into a player that had just joined the game really if thats the case, which can easily be seen as you pocketing someone (Again, im not saying you were, but its definitely worth keeping in mind)

Also, lets look at the bolded in this quote. You mention how everything you write seems wierd to Ekko and then you say that means he is not trying to figure you out. Yet, your bolded before that mentions how everything he posts seems wierd to you. or the exact words is twisty and scheme like. How is this any different to Ekko and if this is the case why should you be trusted over Ekko.



How else would you read it other than trying to be deductive? He hasn't made any hard pushes from what I have seen, where as others have made hard statements out of nowhere in some cases. This attitude strikes me as a townie trying to actually decode a game rather than haphazardly voting. But again, for me they are still only slightly leaning town, I am still keeping my eye on them, much like I am keeping my eye on you.



It is also strange to me that as soon as you get push back that you immediately react against the person that pushed and seem to try and label them back as suspicious for doing so. This is scummy behavior however you look at it.

I had Tiara hard coded as town, this was accurate. They also trusted in me.

If you truly trusted her opinion more than your own then you wouldn't suddenly turn on the people she trusted either just because they suspected you a little. In fact, this also goes against you more since you are contradicting yourself entirely. It also makes it more likely that you instead go for the strongest bandwagon vote at the time and it makes your reads less credible since you yourself don't even trust in them.

Still, despite these things, you still don't seem as scummy as Elmage, and you pose less risk than Alexis should he truly be a wolf thats trying to solidify his town position. You know how dangerous this is and can be from the Waluigi game.



As if to solidify my last point. This post shows it better. You have no clue, your not sure on your own votes, and you are specifically going after wagons being created. This isn't clever, this isn't deductive. its straight up lazy and scummy. Its like it doesn't matter for you. Be honest now, as this would make a whole loooooot of sense if it were correct, but are you an Indi? This would make your plays more logical for me in my opinion.

As you can see from the last few quotes and reads I have made on your last few posts here you can probably see why I have a stronger suspicion towards yourself than I do Ekko or Konno right? Surely you can see what kind of light you have put yourself in whether you meant to or not.
Hey that's quite a wallie. I really hate walltexts, but I will make it short.

If I were you, I wouldn't trust anyone over anyone else, only trust your own guts. I don't really want people to trust me. Just take my stance into account. That is all.

That's it, you literally saw how I got pushed back. Didn't feel like I got pushed back, I just saw someone schemy up a pushback on me and that's where I snapped lol. It's just natural, because why should a towny scheme up something lol.

You don't know mine and Ekko's past tho. The only time where he has the right to push me is when he rands scum. As town he has to behave in front of me. It's basically similair to a truth tell atp.

I am not contradicting myself tho.

No I am not an indie. I am a vanilla towny.
 

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the issue I have with you, is your unnecessary remarks to everything I said previously, and your continous questioning of obviously nitpicky things with no real relevance. you wouldn't do this if you didn't have a motive. I know how Ekko opperates and how later down the line you'd turn a 180 on me.

aslong you think everything I say, or however I frame it is weird, we won't be getting along this game. previous games are hardproving this.

also flooding me with multiple questions per post is not very towny.

what you did was voting Alexis and then doing your rej/haze twist scheme, which feels kinda setupish to me

the evidences are all over the place tho, the fact all you do is questioning and setting up a scheme, but you bring no real conclusions to the table, you jump from question to question to question, make remarks and that in all feels schemy.

because you and Lucidus have the a similair scheming angle towards me because of the Haze townread

so naturally one of my options is that you guys could be wolf together
you sound traumatized as heck, what has scum ekko done to you in the past lol

i don't agree that the remarks are unnecessary. they help me read you and give you a chance to elaborate some of your positions that are unclear to me.

"the evidences are all over the place" is a cop out. i didn't nitpick everything you said, only the things that need elaboration. we are in a dead game state with 0 scum flips. we have to scrutinize everyone. things that may be obvious to you may not be to me. i haven't brought forth a final conclusion because i am uncertain where to go. i didn't call you scum because i am not sure if you are. we have a slot that is getting tossed and it isn't active and it's making me uneasy. like the game could be very easy and elmage is scum, but what if he isn't? we have to put the screws on everyone to make sure our direction is right.

if you are town and i believe lucidus is too then elmage shud be wolf by PoE, do you agree?
 

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@Rej thoughts on this assessment?

and the rest
I like the angle tbh, but Waluigi wasn't the loudest or so. He was just playing good.
Some people know how to play as towny as possible. Also he was a mask and he randed wolf. It just played into his favour.

He got louder later on tho.

About the second part: I think with the current game state most people have equity with each other on a baseline. Just now things are slowly to crystallize into camps.
 

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It is not, in fact, the only wagon right now. Ekko voted Alexis, and I mentioned that I would vote Alexis too which would make a second wagon.
Are you purposefully avoiding Alexis wagon? It seems odd that you didn't notice it since the beginning of D3 especially with not much activity and not much to catch up to.

Congratulations!

Now this is an interesting observation of Alexis

I have not even thought about this possibility, but I see your point very clearly. Alexis has been pushing Elmage for a while now, this is second day if I'm not mistaken that he pushes Elmage wagon and asks us blindly to vote Elmage. Elmage is absent, and Alexis might want to still win as mafia by sacrificing his partner. Alexis was pretty much everyone's town read at the beginning, nobody would even question him or think that he might be mafia. And if Elmage flips mafia after the lynch led by Alexis, everyone would look Alexis as town and he can continue getting rid of us townies one by one and try to win the game. He also now just shows up once in a while, makes a few posts, nothing too contributing, and that's all. His presence is not as big or active as D1, for example. He asks us to vote Elmage, asks us about our opinions on Elmage, and that's pretty much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I remember it at least.

That's another great observation on Rej and his behavior. You bring up a lot of valid points which also make me question Rej because I agree with your reasons of why his behavior and attitude might seem off.
I'm strongly reading you as town.
yes I purposefully avoid Alexis' wagon because I townread him
 
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