[Game] Mafia game 11x4 aka game #44

[Konno]

Only Ekko would've killed Fuji due to familiarity.

If you think Ekko could have killed Fuji, why aren't you voting him then?

 

[Konno]

Wolves took out Fuji cause he was an actual threat. I am going to look at his posts and try to find those cuddly wolves.

Who was he a threat to in your opinion?

 

[Konno]

What do you think about Rohan just saying Gutsy is scum and not doing much else?

I'm not liking much of what I see from Rohan

Hey let us eliminate gutsy first, as i think there is a higher chance of a wolf been there.

His initial reads were wrong. both wolf reads were Town reads. His posting was very strategic. You seem to be overreacting a bit when I suspected you for a wolf.

I’m curious what in particular is giving you scum vibes from Gutsy/Tiara? Can you break it down please?
Any specific posts that made you think they're scum?

 

[Konno]

Right now though, Alexis comes across as a hardcore town, I will put my trust in that direction for now.

Elmage I don't really have a read on right now. I feel his probing into randoms which he calls suspicious is just a way to play safe and comes across slightly wolfy. But im not making a firm decision on that yet.

Could you elaborate more on the reasons you see Alexis as hardcore town.
What exactly portrays Elmage as slightly wolfy to you? Their posts? Interactions? Anything specific that caught your eye?

Elmage and Rohan are coming across wolfy.



For now though as this seems to be the consensus and matches my original suspicions

Vote - Lynch Elmage

In this post that you made after the first post that I quoted, you are already saying that Elmage comes across as wolfy to you, not slightly wolfy. What made you think that?

 

[Michelle]

VC

Spoiler: Poll

View results: Who killed Fuji?

• Gutsy​

  Votes: 1 14.3%
  
  • Rohan

• Rej​

  Votes: 0 0.0%

• Lucidus​

  Votes: 0 0.0%

• Haze_with_a_Z​

  Votes: 1 14.3%
  
  • Rej

• Ekkologix​

  Votes: 0 0.0%

• Alexis2282AE​

  Votes: 1 14.3%
  
  • Elmage G Ace

• Elmage G Ace​

  Votes: 2 28.6%
  
  • Lucidus
  • Alexis2282AE

• Rohan​

  Votes: 1 14.3%
  
  • Tiara

• Konno​

  Votes: 1 14.3%
  
  • Ekkologix

• Unvote​

  Votes: 0 0.0%

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• Total voters
  
  7
• This poll will close: Later today at 11:06 PM.

Spoiler: votes posts

Vote lynch Elmage G Ace.

One-sentence conviction. Should've went: Observation -> Reaction -> Post.

The fact that he explicitly says "I'll have to go through his posts to confirm" while casting the vote proves he hasn't actually found the scum-tell yet.

vote lynch Konno

the read on rej made no sense yesterday and i suspect its coming from place of TMI, when called out for it she/he adjusted it accordingly without rej adding any extra posts, signifying that the initial read was nonsense

vote @Alexis2282AE

vote @Haze_with_a_Z

This game I have a harder time finding Haze as town. It is still an option, but I think I need to dig more.

Sry Haze, but this will help us to get more opinions and more dynamics.

Vote Rohan

Vote Elmage.

I have taken some time to go through your posts and I largely agree.

I saw no reason why Elmage pushed Gutsy so strongly and now Rohan's hard accusation towards Gutsy's old posts shows the same.

Having played with Gutsy in the previous game, and both of these people also did the same. They should understand that this was his way. Nothing from Gutsy or your slot in general comes across as scummy to me so for me right now you are largely town with Alexis.

Elmage and Rohan are coming across wolfy.

Ekko is still neutral to me. If anything he has a slight lean towards being town.

Haze again slightly leaning towards town.

Rej Is neutral for me and im not sure about Konno as I haven't put a lot of attention towards them yet.

For now though as this seems to be the consensus and matches my original suspicions

Vote - Lynch Elmage

Vote Tiara

Yeah no.

Vote Rohan

Alexis - Elmage
Ekko - Konno
Elmage - Alexis
Rej - Haze
Tiara - Rohan > Elmage > Rohan
Lucidus - Elmage
Rohan - Tiara


I still have to fix the poll ending hour, it should end at 11 pm sharp

 

[Tiara]

So @Rohan is just not going to interact with me further huh? Noted.

 

[Tiara]

The lack of follow-up after leading a mislynch is concerning to me.
Are we just going to ignore who started and was on Daedalus mislynch? It seems like everyone just brushed it off and moved on, but I'm trying to understand why that happened and whether there is mafia in those who voted for Daedalus. I questioned Alexis several times, but his responses were not concrete at all which to me is kinda concerning. I quoted Alexis's responses to my questions and concerns and they are not very convincing to me tbh. I'm not saying Alexis is scum, I'm just confused by his behavior and replies after the mislynch

That’s a fair point btw. But you are dealing with Alexis. He tends to form a scum list and rarely re evaluates and mostly tunnels. So that’s not a good way of reading him. I feel the best method is to check how relentless he is in his pursuit of his scum reads. So far he‘s well in line with his Town play.

 

[Tiara]

Mehhhhhhhh

People need to post -_-

 

[Konno]

That’s a fair point btw. But you are dealing with Alexis. He tends to form a scum list and rarely re evaluates and mostly tunnels. So that’s not a good way of reading him. I feel the best method is to check how relentless he is in his pursuit of his scum reads. So far he‘s well in line with his Town play.

I am not familiar with Alexis's play (as town or mafia), so that clarifies things a lot. I appreciate the explanation

 

[Rohan]

So @Rohan is just not going to interact with me further huh? Noted.

Why did you claim?

 

[Rej]

I am here

 

[Rej]

I like Flower's direction this game. + her read on Haze's and mines interactions.

vote Rohan

I am more confident with that one. Already had some sketchy feeling when bradland trd me

 

[Rej]

I was under the impression that people disliked alexia’s interaction with elmage at eod tbh. I feel like the main issue with the wagon was it had like two votes and maj. So namely that more people need to vote.

votes were super scattered tho, but yeah I agree with the latter part. getting all players D1 to spread across 2 or 3 wagons is hard task, but would result in a beautiful game performance.

I guess they feel like the person with like the strongest pushes and the whole game seems to have a certain amount of reliance on them and it feels like they are jumping ship because daed died. Which is prob a weird way of saying this because like you won’t keep pushing the same dead person but if feels like ace is in a position where they could also be blamed if daed didn’t die combined with their wording today feels like they mighta jumped ship yesterday more easily than they let on.

I’ll be back later sorry I can’t catch up fully

hmmmmm

 

[Rej]

@Rej do you tend to talk more educational and gamestate content as town, lowkey forgot

neither. I play both town and maf same, it usually depends on my momentuum tho.

as mafia I am just utilizing my TMI to help building a town core and by participating in it, I clear myself and later I attempt to sow paranoia

as town I don't have said TMI, but usually the flow should be same. but as town I am genuine unsure about most of my actions, while as scum, I have to roleplay these aspects from time to time, so I don't look too confident about things.

 

[Rej]

@everyone
The lack of follow-up after leading a mislynch is concerning to me.
Are we just going to ignore who started and was on Daedalus mislynch? It seems like everyone just brushed it off and moved on, but I'm trying to understand why that happened and whether there is mafia in those who voted for Daedalus. I questioned Alexis several times, but his responses were not concrete at all which to me is kinda concerning. I quoted Alexis's responses to my questions and concerns and they are not very convincing to me tbh. I'm not saying Alexis is scum, I'm just confused by his behavior and replies after the mislynch.

What do you guys think about what happened with Daedalus, about that whole situation?


After Daedalus's mislynch led by Alexis and his not concrete responses to my questioning, I am uncertain about Alexis. Is he trying to pretend to be town while manipulating us, townies. I'm confused and uncertain.

Thank you for fully explaining the mislynch and actually giving your reasoning. I can understand how it happened now better from your perspective and can understand your train of thought.
I asked Alexis the same questions, but the way he responded left me concerned. I don't know what to think now of Alexis. I'm not saying he's scum, I just felt confused with his vague responses to my questions like he just wanted to brush off Daedalus's mislynch and that's all. Like he wants everyone to forget about it. I don't feel there's a follow up from Alexis after mislynch like there is from you.
What are your thoughts on Alexis?

My thoughts on Alexis...he is kinda put on scrutiny right now. I saw him performing better under scrutiny before.
Last game I was mafia and I wanted to get rid of him, and like the whole game thread was either with Alexis or against him. It was a torn game, which leaned a bit more towards aligning with Alexis. But in that game he also had very poor explanations and some very weird unexplained flipflops. But at the end he beat me to a hair, also with alot of mech in his favour.

So yeah, he can be a tough player at times.
I am missing it a bit this game, so idk how long I can hold onto townreading him. It may fleet away after this cycle. Who knows.

 

[Rej]

Who was he a threat to in your opinion?

@Rohan answer this please

 

[Tiara]

Why did you claim?

Why does it matter?

You also saw me claim D1 in the previous game here, so why is that important?

 

[Konno]

The more I see of Rohan's interaction (or more like a lack of), his unwillingness to reply to my or Tiara's questions, I must say I'm not liking it at all.

What do you guys think of Rohan? @Elmage G Ace @Alexis2282AE @Lucidus @Ekkologix @Haze_with_a_Z

 

[Konno]

As of right now, both Rohan and Elmage have 2 votes each. What would happen if there's a tie?

 

[Konno]

Nevermind, I checked the OP and the host will RNG the tied votes and a player will die at random