[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Waluigi]

Votecount 2 of D2 at P#552

Naomi: TheBigBoss>Hunty
TheBigBoss: Rohan
Ekko: Stargate
Rohan: Kirikoe
Gutsy: Kirikoe>Rohan
Waluigi: Hunty

Votes	Voted	Votes
2	Hunty	Naomi, Waluigi
2	Rohan	TheBigBoss, Gutsy
1	Stargate	Ekko
1	Kirikoe	Rohan

My apologies Michelle, for i am about to change my vote.

Vote Kirikoe

I will reiterate what I think about stargate.

I think there is a high chance of them being a wolf.

Stargate
Rohan
Hunty

Current candidates are

Kirikoe, with 2 votes
Stargate, with 1 vote
Hunty, with 2 votes
Rohan, with 1 vote

0 votes on Ekko, Waluigi, Big Boss, Naomi, Gutsy, Haze, and Animepigeon.



@Kirikoe @Stargate18 @The Big Boss @Naomi_ @Ekkologix @Rohan @Gutsy @Hunty


Suggestion- with 3 or more wagons, the wolf team usually tends to take advantage of the scattered votes and lack of votes.
if there's 3 wagons or 4 wagons, townies involved don't know where the final vote is going to end up, and wolves can nudge it in a certain direction.

So, if there's townies on the chopping block today, and there should be, because 4 is a lot for a game this size, that means the wolf team controls the outcome right now.

We can decide between us which 1 name we decide to not pursue today, but perhaps tomorrow.

I would be willing to drop stargate, or kirikoe, but because of my earlier argument, I think the wagons should be between these two names, for the maximum chance to hit a wolf.

However, if that's not acceptable, what about just one of these, and we resolve 1 of those names today, with the counterwagon being either rohan, or hunty, or some other name.

@AnimePigeon you were active and had opinions, what say you?

The only other person is @Haze_with_a_Z and I'm worried they're not paying close attention to the game, or making reads.

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Too long, didn't read

If there's 3 or more wagons, the wolf team will control the outcome, and I don't want that 2 days in a row.

I would consolidate onto stargate, Hunty, or Kirikoe, but if any of those are town, I'd appreciate their help voting for the other names.

And of the people not being voted, I would prefer not to vote for: Waluigi, Ekko, Naomi, Animepigeon.

I also dont really have any particular reason to vote Gutsy, and of the people being voted, think Rohan flips town.

 

[The Big Boss]

I think we only have 5 hours left.

 

[The Big Boss]

Current candidates are

Kirikoe, with 2 votes
Stargate, with 1 vote
Hunty, with 2 votes
Rohan, with 1 vote

0 votes on Ekko, Waluigi, Big Boss, Naomi, Gutsy, Haze, and Animepigeon.



@Kirikoe @Stargate18 @The Big Boss @Naomi_ @Ekkologix @Rohan @Gutsy @Hunty


Suggestion- with 3 or more wagons, the wolf team usually tends to take advantage of the scattered votes and lack of votes.
if there's 3 wagons or 4 wagons, townies involved don't know where the final vote is going to end up, and wolves can nudge it in a certain direction.

So, if there's townies on the chopping block today, and there should be, because 4 is a lot for a game this size, that means the wolf team controls the outcome right now.

We can decide between us which 1 name we decide to not pursue today, but perhaps tomorrow.

I would be willing to drop stargate, or kirikoe, but because of my earlier argument, I think the wagons should be between these two names, for the maximum chance to hit a wolf.

However, if that's not acceptable, what about just one of these, and we resolve 1 of those names today, with the counterwagon being either rohan, or hunty, or some other name.

@AnimePigeon you were active and had opinions, what say you?

The only other person is @Haze_with_a_Z and I'm worried they're not paying close attention to the game, or making reads.

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Too long, didn't read

If there's 3 or more wagons, the wolf team will control the outcome, and I don't want that 2 days in a row.

I would consolidate onto stargate, Hunty, or Kirikoe, but if any of those are town, I'd appreciate their help voting for the other names.

And of the people not being voted, I would prefer not to vote for: Waluigi, Ekko, Naomi, Animepigeon.

I also dont really have any particular reason to vote Gutsy, and of the people being voted, think Rohan flips town.

Tell me me who to vote for.

 

[Waluigi]

Tell me me who to vote for.

Hunty apparently has no interest in playing / fighting for town and, if we were to hit someone who flips town today, they would be the least damaging wrong outcome.

Hypothetically, if they were to be town, is what I mean, it would at least guarantee there's one less person in endgame who won't play or solve.

I wouldn't ask you to vote there for nothing, or for no reason.

If they were revealed to be town today, and I were to die overnight, my legacy would then be to support you, Big Boss, on your suspects. Even if I town read them.

Because you were willing to compromise today for me. That means you gave up some agency, for the team. In return, my legacy is that you should choose tomorrow's elimination.

 

[Waluigi]

I think they make a particularly safe counterwagon.

Meaning, suppose there is a big push for stargate, or Kirikoe, and that's the main wagon.

The counterwagon being Hunty means, we decide Kirikoe's (or stargate's) fate today, and if the decision is that they survive today, we can move onto Hunty.

Because that's someone who is the least damaging removal, in my opinion.

And then, the other of the 2 wagons can be either stargate or kirikoe and everyone in the game who has a reason to choose between those two names, including the folks not voting, can choose.

For maximum information gain.

And because time is of the essence, and folks aren't voting, if we make the move now, it means it's done well ahead of deadline

so there's no last minute scramble and people are AFK or too inactive to decide between several wagons.

Less chaos this way, more a deliberate choice, and more information because its more decisive.

 

[Gutsy]

Current candidates are

Kirikoe, with 2 votes
Stargate, with 1 vote
Hunty, with 2 votes
Rohan, with 1 vote

0 votes on Ekko, Waluigi, Big Boss, Naomi, Gutsy, Haze, and Animepigeon.



@Kirikoe @Stargate18 @The Big Boss @Naomi_ @Ekkologix @Rohan @Gutsy @Hunty


Suggestion- with 3 or more wagons, the wolf team usually tends to take advantage of the scattered votes and lack of votes.
if there's 3 wagons or 4 wagons, townies involved don't know where the final vote is going to end up, and wolves can nudge it in a certain direction.

So, if there's townies on the chopping block today, and there should be, because 4 is a lot for a game this size, that means the wolf team controls the outcome right now.

We can decide between us which 1 name we decide to not pursue today, but perhaps tomorrow.

I would be willing to drop stargate, or kirikoe, but because of my earlier argument, I think the wagons should be between these two names, for the maximum chance to hit a wolf.

However, if that's not acceptable, what about just one of these, and we resolve 1 of those names today, with the counterwagon being either rohan, or hunty, or some other name.

@AnimePigeon you were active and had opinions, what say you?

The only other person is @Haze_with_a_Z and I'm worried they're not paying close attention to the game, or making reads.

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Too long, didn't read

If there's 3 or more wagons, the wolf team will control the outcome, and I don't want that 2 days in a row.

I would consolidate onto stargate, Hunty, or Kirikoe, but if any of those are town, I'd appreciate their help voting for the other names.

And of the people not being voted, I would prefer not to vote for: Waluigi, Ekko, Naomi, Animepigeon.

I also dont really have any particular reason to vote Gutsy, and of the people being voted, think Rohan flips town.

I voted for Kirikoe and still believe he is a wolf as my previous post did with more explanation as to what is going on. In my bigger post.

I am not on weekend leave so i have more time to focus and participate.

If people prefer voting for Hunty or TheBigBoss that i am fine with.

 

[Lucidus]

I have yet to place my vote. I am still unsure of Rohan tbh. But Hunty has also been particilarly sus to me.

As Waluigi said. Its possible wolves have the deciding vote. So how about this. I will go along with what Waluigi and Big Boss decide to do in this case.

If that turns out to be myself then so be it. I will refrain from voting which would end up as a self vote. If I have to be a martyr to get people on the right track then so be it.

 

[Gutsy]

I think they make a particularly safe counterwagon.

Meaning, suppose there is a big push for stargate, or Kirikoe, and that's the main wagon.

The counterwagon being Hunty means, we decide Kirikoe's (or stargate's) fate today, and if the decision is that they survive today, we can move onto Hunty.

Because that's someone who is the least damaging removal, in my opinion.

And then, the other of the 2 wagons can be either stargate or kirikoe and everyone in the game who has a reason to choose between those two names, including the folks not voting, can choose.

For maximum information gain.

And because time is of the essence, and folks aren't voting, if we make the move now, it means it's done well ahead of deadline

so there's no last minute scramble and people are AFK or too inactive to decide between several wagons.

Less chaos this way, more a deliberate choice, and more information because its more decisive.

read both of your posts and i agree with it, i have never played but i see your point in consolidating the votes and target one individual now and either way of the choices you mention being hunty or kirikoe im willing to go for.

I also hope to be more active now.

 

[Lucidus]

I voted for Kirikoe and still believe he is a wolf as my previous post did with more explanation as to what is going on. In my bigger post.

I am not on weekend leave so i have more time to focus and participate.

If people prefer voting for Hunty or TheBigBoss that i am fine with.

I also want to make the point that your primary reason for suspecting me if litterally because Elmage and Guillo said originally. Guillo never even gave a reason properly for his suspicions. Elmages suspicions were warranted but inevitably due to a mistake on my part by mixing up names.

 

[Waluigi]

I have yet to place my vote. I am still unsure of Rohan tbh. But Hunty has also been particilarly sus to me.

As Waluigi said. Its possible wolves have the deciding vote. So how about this. I will go along with what Waluigi and Big Boss decide to do in this case.

If that turns out to be myself then so be it. I will refrain from voting which would end up as a self vote. If I have to be a martyr to get people on the right track then so be it.

I understand that sentiment, but if your counterwagon is someone you feel CAN be a wolf and hasn't claimed an important town power, I would rather you self preserve.

@Kirikoe

because if youre town, youre valuable and here and solving and trying, and i prefer that in endgame even if a suspect, over someone who wont play.

That gives town maximum chances to win, because the alternative is

someone who can be a wolf in endgame, and also, isnt fighting for town, which is always worse.

So, I would request that you neither don't vote, nor self vote. If you feel comfortable self preserve voting, please do so.

 

[Waluigi]

Reminder- if a townie self votes, that means the wolf team, if 3 of them, has 4 possible votes, on a townie.

That's difficult for town to outvote, so please, no griefing.

 

[Gutsy]

To be fair I am willing to drop @Kirikoe and go for Hunty as the focus today. it seems more viable and also seems more sus in general. After the first day Kiri and others have changed tone and general kiri you done nothing but try to convince others you are not the bad guy here.

I am in total agreement with Waluigi about preservation and there are others more sus, and for Town I imagine the best possible outcome is this.

 

[Waluigi]

I also want to make the point that your primary reason for suspecting me if litterally because Elmage and Guillo said originally. Guillo never even gave a reason properly for his suspicions. Elmages suspicions were warranted but inevitably due to a mistake on my part by mixing up names.

I remember that now.

That's not a particularly compelling reason, as I said previously, its more likely a townie does that than a wolf.

 

[Lucidus]

I understand that sentiment, but if your counterwagon is someone you feel CAN be a wolf and hasn't claimed an important town power, I would rather you self preserve.

@Kirikoe

because if youre town, youre valuable and here and solving and trying, and i prefer that in endgame even if a suspect, over someone who wont play.

That gives town maximum chances to win, because the alternative is

someone who can be a wolf in endgame, and also, isnt fighting for town, which is always worse.

So, I would request that you neither don't vote, nor self vote. If you feel comfortable self preserve voting, please do so.

I respect this and see where you are coming from. I would say voting Hunty would be the least detrimental if townie. However I also think they are wolf due to trying to fade into the background.

If they didn't want to play they could allow for possible substitutions by not posting at all.

 

[The Big Boss]

I understand that sentiment, but if your counterwagon is someone you feel CAN be a wolf and hasn't claimed an important town power, I would rather you self preserve.

@Kirikoe

because if youre town, youre valuable and here and solving and trying, and i prefer that in endgame even if a suspect, over someone who wont play.

That gives town maximum chances to win, because the alternative is

someone who can be a wolf in endgame, and also, isnt fighting for town, which is always worse.

So, I would request that you neither don't vote, nor self vote. If you feel comfortable self preserve voting, please do so.

First hunty, then Stargate?

 

[Waluigi]

To be fair I am willing to drop @Kirikoe and go for Hunty as the focus today. it seems more viable and also seems more sus in general. After the first day Kiri and others have changed tone and general kiri you done nothing but try to convince others you are not the bad guy here.

I am in total agreement with Waluigi about preservation and there are others more sus, and for Town I imagine the best possible outcome is this.

Yeah especially on examination of the basis of the suspicion on Kirikoe-

I think stargate is the wolf between the two of them and if im wrong, we can bail and hit Hunty.

 

[The Big Boss]

I change my vote

I vote for hunty

 

[Gutsy]

Reminder- if a townie self votes, that means the wolf team, if 3 of them, has 4 possible votes, on a townie.

That's difficult for town to outvote, so please, no griefing.

Hunty seems like a viable option since already two votes on them.

 

[The Big Boss]

I change my vote

I vote for hunty

Hunty or Stargate lol

 

[Gutsy]

Big Boss just went for hunty he has 3 thats difficult to beat.