[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Waluigi]

i think so, pq is a spammy nerd

I have played with pqwerty, but I am demonstrably not he, since we were separate players.

 

[Waluigi]

can we just yeet stargate or hunty, ignore the distractions

I am just waiting for @Stargate18 to dig in substantially today. I havent seen stargate wolf before, so, this might be the first example and if not, I can get there if he merely talks to me.

 

[Waluigi]

havent liked anything horus new slot put in either, down to toss as well

Sadly, same. Would vote.

 

[Waluigi]

lean town / reassess last
haze
rohan
gutsy


null / weaker town / first to reassess if scum poe is wrong
big boss
waluigi
naomi
kiriko


null / could be scum (or indie)
pegion (horus)


lean scum
stargate
hunty


mostly here rn

@Ekkologix

I am really really going to ask you to walk me through why haze is so townie to you.

Without asking you to claim, Ekko.

If it is mech info, okay, but if it isn't, please cite which posts. Because their day 1 had no impact or concern for the outcome and didnt attract wolf votes, and today, is being far too lazy for my tastes. Lazy with a Z.

 

[Waluigi]

Vote hunty

didn't like there vote because vibes, looked to scummy.

Okay.

@Naomi_ I need to solve your slot, and Hunty's, and Horus' new slot, and haze.

You're not inactive, you are just grey to me, and I need to sort you lighter or darker and more colorfully.

Green for town, out of habit, I know its teal here.
Or orange to red for wolf.

So, for now, I will join you on your quest.

Vote: hunty

Please also advise- I believe that there is at least 1 wolf contained within Stargate18 and Kirikoe.

 

[Waluigi]

-------------WALUIGI'S LEANS LIST------------


@Waluigi - I happen to know I've got teal underwear.

------------Upper tier, unlikely to contain a wolf----------

@Ekkologix @Rohan - both of you read as strongly unpaired with several players, making it less and less likely you are a wolf in the first place, and some of your posts read as sharply villagery. Highest tier of being town.

Rohan, more like, isn't reading or paying attention, and the bits where he posts like.... he isn't trying to persuade anyone of anything, just doesn't care. He reads a lot like Big Boss does, which is short, choppy posts, not flashy or for show. Difficult to read, style. It's possible I have the read wrong, but in my experience if someone doesn't care how their posts are presented and also, make frequent gaffes like switching up which player is which, they're usually town.

Ekko is actually the player in the game besides me who seems to care the most, and I would recommend protecting Ekko tonight, Stargate18. Especially if folks have trouble townreading me.

----------------Middle tier- does contain a wolf, but I need to be accurate-------

@Naomi_ @Kirikoe @Stargate18

I believe there is 1 wolf between Kiri-koe and Star-gate18 due to some logic I used earlier, where the night kills make absolutely no sense unless that's true.

However, otherwise, I don't actually have a wolf case on any of these names, and would LIKE to find these people town, if at all possible. I also don't really want to hit the doctor claimant just in case that's true, and unlike many others, Kirikoe is actually playing the game.

Naomi is being solvy and assertive in a manner which leads me to believe she will find wolves, and if she is a wolf, I can determine that by assisting her temporarily. If she hits wolf, then, she's probably town here.

You three are playing the game, so I need to be very, very careful not to hit you when you're town, but I still believe there is 1, maybe 2 wolves here. Not three, don't think it is ever three, so there's 1-3 townies here and I HAVE to be careful.

----------There should be multiple wolves here--------

@AnimePigeon - okay
@The Big Boss - nullish
@Haze_with_a_Z - worried
@Gutsy @Hunty - too little

Of these, AnimePigeon is the closest to a town lean, but it's REALLY shaky.

@AnimePigeon - I will try to solve you based on the content you're giving, thanks for showing up.

@Hunty - You have to do something, love. I need more than vibes.

@Gutsy - I like you, friend. But I need more than a personal affinity for your personality.

@Haze_with_a_Z - I like you as well, but I am also slightly ready to vote for you because you're not trying to find any wolves and I know you do when you're town. You do accuse and try more than this, over the course of 2 day phases.

Are you okay? Busy? Is there any reason you cannot play?

@The Big Boss - you are playing, interacting, answering questions.

You're mostly null to me, not really a wolf read. I like how you are poking at me and trying to solve me.

I am having trouble parsing you the most, so it's not helping me town read you, but I will read your posts in isolation and also do big team solving via unpairings and get back to you.

 

[Waluigi]

Players:​

1. Rohan
2. Rej killed D1
3. Kirikoe
4. Hunty
5. Elmage G Ace killed N1
6. Gutsy
7. Horus the AnimePigeon
8. the Big Boss The Big Boss
9. Avonomemi the Fujishiro the Naomi
10. The Haze with the Z
11. Jake the Waluigi
12. Guillotina killed N1
13. Stargate18 wearing a Tiara
14. @Ekkologix

Mech clear townies-

Rej, the townie I said was town and nobody listened.
Guillotina, shot n1
Elmage, shot n1
Waluigi, replacing Jake. Purple, because Waluigi is purple. Has teal underwear.

Ekkologix - most certain this one is town, above all others
Rohan - next most sure, but it's a gap, and difficult to parse. Just reads as uninformed.

Naomi - not as sure as above on if they're town, but, if she is hitting wolf, then she is town.

Kirikoe - n1 shots dont make tons of sense if this is town. This one has a 50/50 of being a wolf.
Stargate - should be dead if he was town. Need to see more. This one has a 50/50 of being a wolf.

Animepigeon - null positive
The Big Boss - null
Haze with a Z- meh
Gutsy - erm
Hunty - I need more than sus or vibes to read you.


Is this easier to read?

 

[Waluigi]

I can go over my read on Rohan again if you wish, and also the unpairings I generated.

There should be a bunch, so if Rohan ever flips wolf, several players will be known to be innocent, from my chair.

Just happen to think those posts only come from townies, given the lack of reading comprehension.

I am about due for updated isos on every player, so i will let you know @The Big Boss when I am done and will ping you.

Gimme a few hours on this, boss.

I did the current leans list but isoing people will actually take hours now, especially since I will be interrupted a lot this morning.

Will be done well ahead of end of Day, so if I die overnight, refer back to the work as my legacy.

 

[Gutsy]

-------------WALUIGI'S LEANS LIST------------


@Waluigi - I happen to know I've got teal underwear.

------------Upper tier, unlikely to contain a wolf----------

@Ekkologix @Rohan - both of you read as strongly unpaired with several players, making it less and less likely you are a wolf in the first place, and some of your posts read as sharply villagery. Highest tier of being town.

Rohan, more like, isn't reading or paying attention, and the bits where he posts like.... he isn't trying to persuade anyone of anything, just doesn't care. He reads a lot like Big Boss does, which is short, choppy posts, not flashy or for show. Difficult to read, style. It's possible I have the read wrong, but in my experience if someone doesn't care how their posts are presented and also, make frequent gaffes like switching up which player is which, they're usually town.

Ekko is actually the player in the game besides me who seems to care the most, and I would recommend protecting Ekko tonight, Stargate18. Especially if folks have trouble townreading me.

----------------Middle tier- does contain a wolf, but I need to be accurate-------

@Naomi_ @Kirikoe @Stargate18

I believe there is 1 wolf between Kiri-koe and Star-gate18 due to some logic I used earlier, where the night kills make absolutely no sense unless that's true.

However, otherwise, I don't actually have a wolf case on any of these names, and would LIKE to find these people town, if at all possible. I also don't really want to hit the doctor claimant just in case that's true, and unlike many others, Kirikoe is actually playing the game.

Naomi is being solvy and assertive in a manner which leads me to believe she will find wolves, and if she is a wolf, I can determine that by assisting her temporarily. If she hits wolf, then, she's probably town here.

You three are playing the game, so I need to be very, very careful not to hit you when you're town, but I still believe there is 1, maybe 2 wolves here. Not three, don't think it is ever three, so there's 1-3 townies here and I HAVE to be careful.

----------There should be multiple wolves here--------

@AnimePigeon - okay
@The Big Boss - nullish
@Haze_with_a_Z - worried
@Gutsy @Hunty - too little

Of these, AnimePigeon is the closest to a town lean, but it's REALLY shaky.

@AnimePigeon - I will try to solve you based on the content you're giving, thanks for showing up.

@Hunty - You have to do something, love. I need more than vibes.

@Gutsy - I like you, friend. But I need more than a personal affinity for your personality.

@Haze_with_a_Z - I like you as well, but I am also slightly ready to vote for you because you're not trying to find any wolves and I know you do when you're town. You do accuse and try more than this, over the course of 2 day phases.

Are you okay? Busy? Is there any reason you cannot play?

@The Big Boss - you are playing, interacting, answering questions.

You're mostly null to me, not really a wolf read. I like how you are poking at me and trying to solve me.

I am having trouble parsing you the most, so it's not helping me town read you, but I will read your posts in isolation and also do big team solving via unpairings and get back to you.

Thanks for liking me, I will be more active in the weekend to be honest then I will be more able to read up on things and see my view on what people see.

 

[Gutsy]

Alright I have gone over the last 10 pages or so to give a better and more thorough read through since I have time before I start working today.

Ill start off by simply saying that yes i love to joust with kiri, and my messages have been a mess but i finally have time to read through things.

My general read is that Rohan and I have similar view on Big Boss and Kirikoe as wolves, however Rohan thinks im too quiet. Aside from that Kirikoe suggests me and Rohan are colluding because we are pushing him.

Big Boss has been throwing shade at people, and you claimed that it was too early to read and vote then votes randomly.

Waluigi, Naomi and Ekko are town, you three essentially are the leading people around trying to solve this.

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If It was up to me I believe the following are potential wolves / groups:

Kirikoe: he keeps fighting off multiple town pushes on him.
The Big Boss: Boss random wierd votes.
Hunty: hiding behind inactivity.

Stargates doc claim may be fake but im unsure.

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I think Rohan is just frustrated that i havent written more seriously.

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FULL LIST:

Town:
Waluigi
Ekko
Naomi
Haze
Rohan

Wolf:
Hunty
The Big Boss
Kirikoe

Unsure:
Stargate
AnimePigeon

 

[Rohan]

Not many options.

Why do you think so?There are a few suspicious players.

 

[Michelle]

Sorry I am late I will post the VC working on it

 

[Michelle]

Votecount 2 of D2 at P#552

Naomi: TheBigBoss>Hunty
TheBigBoss: Rohan
Ekko: Stargate
Rohan: Kirikoe
Gutsy: Kirikoe>Rohan
Waluigi: Hunty

Votes	Voted	Votes
2	Hunty	Naomi, Waluigi
2	Rohan	TheBigBoss, Gutsy
1	Stargate	Ekko
1	Kirikoe	Rohan

Spoiler: Votes

Vote count 1 of D2 at P#407

Naomi: TheBigBoss
TheBigBoss: Rohan
Ekko: Stargate

Votes	Voted	Voters
1	TheBigBoss	Naomi
1	Rohan	TheBigBoss
1	Stargate	Ekko

Town Reads
Ekko- Good activity trying to find wolves
Haze- Good posting trend, asking questions
Stargate- claimed doctor

Null
Gutsy



Wolf Reads
Kirikoe- suspected by Gul and a bit by Elmage, benefitted the most by the night kills imo
Hunty- Posting very little
Big boss- Boss is just throwing votes and posting fluff. Little effort to solve the game

With the reasons given, I think this is the best choice for now.

Vote Kirikoe

immediately going in and throwing hands

Vote Kirikoe

Id say after having talked with you about all of this and looking at what has happened im going to change my vote.

Vote Rohan

Waluigi has over 100 posts in this thread, he is baiting the inactive players. We don’t know what he is but he chose the name waluigi. He won’t sleep well but wants more reads. 3 townies are dead, he needs to explain why.

I still vote Rohan

Vote hunty

didn't like there vote because vibes, looked to scummy.

Okay.

@Naomi_ I need to solve your slot, and Hunty's, and Horus' new slot, and haze.

You're not inactive, you are just grey to me, and I need to sort you lighter or darker and more colorfully.

Green for town, out of habit, I know its teal here.
Or orange to red for wolf.

So, for now, I will join you on your quest.

Vote: hunty

Please also advise- I believe that there is at least 1 wolf contained within Stargate18 and Kirikoe.

Please announce me in private conversation for any mistake in the VC

 

[Gutsy]

My apologies Michelle, for i am about to change my vote.

Vote Kirikoe

 

[Lucidus]

Damn what a thing to wake up to. Its like my previous posts were just ignored.

I will go through more of the 4 pages added since I have been asleep to see if it changes my views at all.

 

[Lucidus]

There is faaar too much to go through on just my phone.

Rohan brings up a good point. Both elmage and Guillo suspected me for some reason, getting rid of them makes it look bad on me. From a wolf perspective this is actually a bad move if I were a wolf. It points hands at me for no reason.

On the other hand, as I am town, by getting rid of both elmage and Guillo, the wolf benefits because it throws suspicion onto another town instead. There was no downside for them.

Rohan pointing fingers at me for these reasons is fairly sus, especially since he is already suspected by others. It strikes me as trying to throw suspicion elsewear.

There is chinese saying (shù dà zhāo fēng)

"A tall tree attracts the wind"

In other words it garners the most amount of attention and allows others to hide beneath its shadow. In this case I believe Rohan and Gutsy are attempting to.. 'Hide beneath behind my shadow' so to speak.

I am just going to bring this to peoples attention again. I believe the biggest absolving factor for me is the fact that both Elmage and Guillo died on D1.

It would have been a terrible play by me if i were a wolf! Think about it.

 

[Waluigi]

Your thoughts on Stargate possibly being a wolf, Kirikoe?

We wait to resolve that another day?

Afaik the only thing stargate-tiara has going for them is the claim, and then claimed to not even use the protect.

Perhaps to explain away any tracking data which would suggest they went nowhere, preemptively.

I dont know, its not a lock wolf case, its just bothersome.

If youre not a wolf, stargate should be one.

 

[Waluigi]

Do we have areas of agreement, mutual suspicions you want to act on today, @ everyone?

We have just over half a day, let's find areas of agreement and consolidate a little, and then get the claims and defenses of the persons being accused. Then make a final decision, before it is too late.

Is my suggestion. I'm also open to other suggestions. If someone has a better battle plan, I'm open to it.

 

[Lucidus]

Your thoughts on Stargate possibly being a wolf, Kirikoe?

We wait to resolve that another day?

Afaik the only thing stargate-tiara has going for them is the claim, and then claimed to not even use the protect.

Perhaps to explain away any tracking data which would suggest they went nowhere, preemptively.

I dont know, its not a lock wolf case, its just bothersome.

If youre not a wolf, stargate should be one.

I did give my thoughts further back on page 23-24 I believe.

I will reiterate what I think about stargate.

First, Tiara made the early claim that they were 'The Doc' after having a few votes thrown at them. Despite there being ample time for votes to change. They went straight for the claim. Stargate confirmed the case when catching them up on what had happened. However, we can't dismiss this as not being a trick. What claiming early does is it makes everyone think twice before throwing votes their way. If they were a wolf instead, this gives them ample time to cripple the town and makes everyone second guess themselves.

Plus, if you were truly the doc, making such an early claim makes you a target from the wolf side. Its risky to out yourself as you then often can only really protect yourself.

I think there is a high chance of them being a wolf.

I would suggest looking furthee back in the pages at my comments and reads. If people truly believe I am a wolf then lynch me tbh, my death will prove everything

 

[The Big Boss]

Do we have areas of agreement, mutual suspicions you want to act on today, @ everyone?

We have just over half a day, let's find areas of agreement and consolidate a little, and then get the claims and defenses of the persons being accused. Then make a final decision, before it is too late.

Is my suggestion. I'm also open to other suggestions. If someone has a better battle plan, I'm open to it.

Stargate
Rohan
Hunty