[Theory] My interpretation of the Harley text

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THE FIRST WORLD
Within the earth there was fire.
Mankind succumbed to greed and touched the forbidden sun.
The enslaved prayed, and the sun god appeared.
The earth god raged, and with its serpent of hellfire, shrouded the world in death and darkness.
And they will never meet.

The Red Line was created as a result of a volcanic cataclysm that nearly wiped out life on the Blue Planet. Mankind siphoned off magma from below the earth's crust, stemming from the mantle and core, using slave labor. A figure with the powers of Nika battled to free the slaves. The battle ended in the Red Line being created from a volcanic eruption.

"Shrouding the world in death and darkness" refers to the lives that would be lost in the eruption and the volcanic ash that would ensue. Large enough eruptions, such as Mt. Tambora in 1815, can cause ash to block out sunlight. Tambora's eruption resulted in what researchers have dubbed "the summer of no winter," and the mass extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs is often attributed to being largely the result of life being unable to fare under the ash cloud kicked up by the meteor collision.

"The serpent of hellfire" refers to the initial burst of magma that encircled the planet. I believe this is a reference to the Pacific Ring of Fire, a series of volcanoes and earthquakes. While the Ring of Fire is not a circle, the imagery is consistent with imagery within the series. King's final assault on Zoro consisted of flaming dragons that Zoro compared to magma; the hellfire imagery continues with Zoro defeating King with King of Hell, Three-Sword Serpent: 103 Mercies Dragon Damnation. The Red Line is referred to by the giants of Elbaph as the blood-soaked serpent; while the Red Line's color makes this a fitting moniker, the phrase would be even more fitting if its creation is associated with the death referenced in the mural.

, Nami explains to the crew that there are more volcanoes below the ground than above it, and that undersea volcanic activity creates new islands. The "serpent of hellfire" refers to the magma that encircles the globe during the cataclysm that then hardened into the Red Line. This is consistent with Nami's explanation that the Red Line is akin to an aggregate of islands.

THE SECOND WORLD
Within the void there was breath.
The forest god tamed demons and the sun spread the fires of war.
Those of the half-moon dreamed.
Those of the moon dreamed.
Man killed the sun and became god, and the sea god stormed.
And they will never meet.

"Within the void, there was breath" refers to Imu, a being who emerged from the Abyss.

When the Revolutionaries are discussing Imu , a book labelled "Genesis" can be seen. Mars refers to Imu as "the Creator" . The book of Genesis describes the earth as formless and void prior to Creation; Imu's personal pronoun of "mu" can both be translated to mean "void" or "nothingness." Imu's power over the Abyss is also a Biblical reference to voids and nothingness, as the Abyss in the Bible is a place that is completely boundless and too deep for the human mind to comprehend. Descriptions of both the Abyss and the formless world prior to Creation are also evocative of deep waters, making it more likely that the Harley's mention of the "void" is meant to refer to Imu and the Abyss.

I think the rest of the stanza is fairly simple. The fires of war being spread by the sun and the dreams of the half-moon refers to Joy Boy's faction of the great war, the Will of D. Those of the moon may refer to either the Sky People, or perhaps the alliance of 20 kings. The forest god taming demons, I believe, refers to the power of the Devil Fruits being harnessed. Man killing the sun and becoming god refers to Joy Boy's defeat and the rise of the Celestial Dragons as the new gods of the world. The sea god storming refers to the great flooding that befell the world during the war.
 

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what do you feel about enel being on the moon?
 

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what do you feel about enel being on the moon?
I think a lot about the fact that one of the murals he saw contained an image of something that looks like it's filled with Sanji's eyebrows in the top right.

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The thing looks like a flower. It reminds me of Robin's Hana Hana/Flower Flower Fruit, which looks like this

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The women of Amazon Lily are named after flowers, and they said the same "love is always a hurricane" that Sanji said.

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Gaban, the Minister of Love and Sanji's parallel from Roger's crew, wears flower-themed clothing
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Hyogoro also looks a ton like Hyogoro the Flower from Wano due to the glasses

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Hyogoro is introduced in Wano, the same arc that introduced the Lunarian which Sanji gets compared to by Queen

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Lunarian is obviously evocative of the moon, and it comes full circle with Oda comparing Sanji's eyebrow to the spinning power of celestial bodies.
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Interesting. A scientist With the Hana fruit could build things very quickly.
 

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Interesting. A scientist With the Hana fruit could build things very quickly.
That's a really really good point. There may have been a point in time where DFs weren't tools for combat, but tools for every day life and that's how the Ancient Kingdom became so advanced.
 

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That's a really really good point. There may have been a point in time where DFs weren't tools for combat, but tools for every day life and that's how the Ancient Kingdom became so advanced.
3 of them, but only one has tools.

big hands, small feet, white wings.
 

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look in my sig..there is ur answer..
teh one piece is a heart..wich is why lufy's chest marked with teh X scar..
chest is word with dual meaning..it can mean body part above abdomen..it can also mean box of trézor or container..so teh wordplay here is..inside ur chest lies ur heart...

remenber in skypiea sacrifice ritual chapters????...

here's what gonna hapen :

lufy's biologikal heart won't be able to sustain gear 5..it also received many injuries...so at some point in future..it will need to be replaced by another heart wich is mechanical heart..

tis is inspired by ancient aztec sun heart ritual..

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The problem with the mural is that even in Japanese it's vague and cryptical, let alone when it's translated multiple times in English as every translation changes the nuances.

That said, that the first world covers a geological cataclysm is already a common thought; it's also one of the few parts that seems more straightforward. The year 536 has been labelled as the worst year in human history because of one or more devastating volcanic eruptions, which caused the temperatures to plummet for several years, darkened the skies and in its wake brought famines and plagues.

Honestly, the mural's description on that part could come directly out of a history book. Though, I don't think they were mining for magma. Considering what's depicted on the mural, VP's dream of an infinite power source and the Mother Flame, it looks like they were harvesting a power source that powered their technology, but that they overreached and set a cataclysm in motion that destroyed the world.

I doubt 'Breath' refers to Imu, though. Granted, it's possible that, parallel with Luffy eating the Nika fruit, Imu might have eaten the fruit of another deity, but other than that everything indicates Imu was originally a human.

Personally, in my headcanon the volcanic eruptions blasted so many nutrients into the atmosphere it eventually would nourish Eve of which the fruits would become the devil fruits, and that that Eve eventually would almost be completely incapsulated by the Red Line. Its roots is what provides FI with light, while the reason why the CD decided to take residence at the top, and before them the Lunarians that also were deified, was because that's where a piece wast still sticking out that bore the fruits. This would explain why there are so many devil fruit users on the Grand Line, but also how they can drift towards all the other seas as they could fall on either side of the RL.
 

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time is short in one piece due to sun and moon all bing fake..100 years is probly like 1 or 5 yrz in our nrml time..
 

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time is short in one piece due to sun and moon all bing fake..100 years is probly like 1 or 5 yrz in our nrml time..
Nika is the sun god.

need earth god, moon god, forest god, or maybe sea god and wind god.
 
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