Revive 🍜 The Ramen Bar: Open discussion about AB's revival

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This overall sounds good to me, im just a bit worried that there will be two rps when just one of them (current) died out due to inactivity. This makes me think the legacy rp that you mention will get zero to none attention and basically rules out the need or want for it. I guess im just pessimistic but if you think its feasable, who am i to disagree. I still think its better to have one game, veterans gets to transfer what is transferable and leave it at that - or get some sort of compensation for their prior grind in terms of currency.
I can agree with this only because I recently thought about the fact that not one, but two RPs will have to be kept up with. That said, there could and maybe should be a second team that's almost exclusive to the Legacy RP if thats the direction we are going. And when its not busy maybe help out with the new RP since either way its going to be a lot of work but yeah. I think it will be okay in the long run. I would love to participate in both. Reminds of Regular RS and OSRS and Classic WoW and regular WoW. It can be done!
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I think Pervvy covered most of what I was going to say, but i think one thing to consider is to widen up the power system a bit or maybe not lear so heavily into the Naruto Language. I think using more of an Isekai RP instead would open it up for advertising and garnering more attention and potentially new users to join the RP.
Everything from Solo Levelling, Overlord, Shield Hero etc can open up various new communities to join the RP.

I know this thread is kind of a generic "make your suggestions here" type of thing but also comments on what else has been said too. It might be worth, when the time comes and the team is ready for it, having a separate thread or chat for people that want to suggest things such as systems, Story Plots, abilities etc?
People do this with CCs for the most part. If you're talking about integrating that into the RP itself as Canon abilities then yeah, I can kinda see that.

For example, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, something like a fire technique that derives from a character like Natsu from FT? Is that what you mean? That can be a cool iteration. Change the lingo a little to make it known its from FT. I would just want the same elemental interactions to work and the damage and explination tied to our original RP that way there is no confusion. But if that's what you mean thats a cool idea. I mean we basically did it with Elden Ring and Dragon Ball so why not...
 
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I think Pervvy covered most of what I was going to say, but i think one thing to consider is to widen up the power system a bit or maybe not lear so heavily into the Naruto Language. I think using more of an Isekai RP instead would open it up for advertising and garnering more attention and potentially new users to join the RP.
Everything from Solo Levelling, Overlord, Shield Hero etc can open up various new communities to join the RP.

I know this thread is kind of a generic "make your suggestions here" type of thing but also comments on what else has been said too. It might be worth, when the time comes and the team is ready for it, having a separate thread or chat for people that want to suggest things such as systems, Story Plots, abilities etc?

I feel that the site has a solid foundation with the Naruto Universe. Making the new RP more generically focused would take more time to get started, with the balancing of powers from different mediums and such. Having the site primary foundation remain Naruto, then we could have systems in place to integrate other titles. The best example I can think of is using the rift system to allow for members to face off against other characters from other universes, with their powers adapted to the Naruto Verse. There could even be a thread where members can post potential rift bosses they would like to see and face off with for consideration.

I just think as a RP site we already have a solid foundation with Naruto at the center, integrating other titles slowly into the Naruto world would be a more sustainable idea instead of trying to incorporate or redevelop everything all at once to be less Naruto centric.
 

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People do this with CCs for the most part. If you're talking about integrating that into the RP itself as Canon abilities then yeah, I can kinda see that.

For example, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, something like a fire technique that derives from a character like Natsu from FT? Is that what you mean? That can be a cool iteration. Change the lingo a little to make it known its from FT. I would just want the same elemental interactions to work and the damage and explination tied to our original RP that way there is no confusion. But if that's what you mean thats a cool idea. I mean we basically did it with Elden Ring and Dragon Ball so why not...

Not so much that, but currently the whole system is based around the original Naruto RP game, everything from sensei's to doujutsu, custom clans, kekkei genkai etc. all the language is currently hyper specific. If someone who comes in and has never seen naruto before, how do they know what the difference between a hidden ability, a kekkei genkai, an advanced ninjutsu is?

I think removing all association from naruto, while shocking and probably tough to agree with, would actually open up the RP to be advertised to other communities. Instead, calling it an Isekai RP allows it to have people instead be open to creating their own character.
If its advertised as 'hey come join this naruto RP, but its not really naruto, you can create what ever abilities you want' not only will you get people snubbing their noses because its naruto, people that havent even seen naruto, or people just not interested because they dont like the naruto system.

I think a rebrand as an Isekai RP instead would be beneficial because there are many different Isekai series that can have their power system easily integrated or adapted into our RP game (even if we keep the same system). ADDITIONALLY the reason I suggest Isekai RP is because a generic genre rp is easier to get people into rather than advertising a singular one. something like 'hey come join our generic magic rp' doesnt work because it might not come across as actual anime, 'hey come join our anime rp' doesnt work because it could be any anime from sailor moon to spy x family to bleach to what ever.

Again, I acknowledge it might not be a popular idea, and we might always call it Naruto RP in our hearts, but I really insist we should rebrand the rp system and language if we want to try get more people in. otherwise its just going to be the same 10-15 people or less that will participate.

I feel that the site has a solid foundation with the Naruto Universe. Making the new RP more generically focused would take more time to get started, with the balancing of powers from different mediums and such. Having the site primary foundation remain Naruto, then we could have systems in place to integrate other titles. The best example I can think of is using the rift system to allow for members to face off against other characters from other universes, with their powers adapted to the Naruto Verse. There could even be a thread where members can post potential rift bosses they would like to see and face off with for consideration.

I just think as a RP site we already have a solid foundation with Naruto at the center, integrating other titles slowly into the Naruto world would be a more sustainable idea instead of trying to incorporate or redevelop everything all at once to be less Naruto centric.

I started writing the above before this post, but its not necessarily a whole system that needs to change, but the language or way that its presented should be changed. With this opportunity for the RP to actually be changed and have a full work up, I think we should considered a language and theme rebrand as well. Not only this but also, the site itself is barely Naruto themed anymore, outside of the exclusive naruto rp. The naruto discussion is its own section, much like MHA, OP etc.
 

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Not so much that, but currently the whole system is based around the original Naruto RP game, everything from sensei's to doujutsu, custom clans, kekkei genkai etc. all the language is currently hyper specific. If someone who comes in and has never seen naruto before, how do they know what the difference between a hidden ability, a kekkei genkai, an advanced ninjutsu is?

I think removing all association from naruto, while shocking and probably tough to agree with, would actually open up the RP to be advertised to other communities. Instead, calling it an Isekai RP allows it to have people instead be open to creating their own character.
If its advertised as 'hey come join this naruto RP, but its not really naruto, you can create what ever abilities you want' not only will you get people snubbing their noses because its naruto, people that havent even seen naruto, or people just not interested because they dont like the naruto system.

I think a rebrand as an Isekai RP instead would be beneficial because there are many different Isekai series that can have their power system easily integrated or adapted into our RP game (even if we keep the same system). ADDITIONALLY the reason I suggest Isekai RP is because a generic genre rp is easier to get people into rather than advertising a singular one. something like 'hey come join our generic magic rp' doesnt work because it might not come across as actual anime, 'hey come join our anime rp' doesnt work because it could be any anime from sailor moon to spy x family to bleach to what ever.

Again, I acknowledge it might not be a popular idea, and we might always call it Naruto RP in our hearts, but I really insist we should rebrand the rp system and language if we want to try get more people in. otherwise its just going to be the same 10-15 people or less that will participate.



I started writing the above before this post, but its not necessarily a whole system that needs to change, but the language or way that its presented should be changed. With this opportunity for the RP to actually be changed and have a full work up, I think we should considered a language and theme rebrand as well. Not only this but also, the site itself is barely Naruto themed anymore, outside of the exclusive naruto rp. The naruto discussion is its own section, much like MHA, OP etc.
I would almost agree with you but integrating a whole bunch of terms into the RP such as new and different ranks, technique names, abilities, etc. would be very tedious to say the least. Rehashing/restarting is already a tedious task. If this were to be done, I would suggest the foundation of the rehash/restart should take place first to know what we are working with as a whole as far as whats new, removed, redone, editing, etc. before, in essence creating a whole entirely new deal. Because as much as you say it can easily transition and integrate, that shit will not be easy lol. I like the idea in theory though. I do. I just think some steps come before others to revive what we have and then your idea would come after. Maybe sooner, maybe later, but definitely after. We gotta replace the wheels before we change the oil.
 

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I would almost agree with you but integrating a whole bunch of terms into the RP such as new and different ranks, technique names, abilities, etc. would be very tedious to say the least. Rehashing/restarting is already a tedious task. If this were to be done, I would suggest the foundation of the rehash/restart should take place first to know what we are working with as a whole as far as whats new, removed, redone, editing, etc. before, in essence creating a whole entirely new deal. Because as much as you say it can easily transition and integrate, that shit will not be easy lol. I like the idea in theory though. I do. I just think some steps come before others to revive what we have and then your idea would come after. Maybe sooner, maybe later, but definitely after. We gotta replace the wheels before we change the oil.

I think part of it as well is, lets say youre a fan of any other anime series that has amazing fights and powers, eg just taking for example, My Hero Academia, One Piece, Bleach, Solo Levelling, Overlord (anything really) the issue was that the canon naruto techniques were always going to be way more overpowered and strong, because you could only make customs techniques up to a certain level. Hopefully with this reboot, and techniques are all equally powered, it would open up for more of a wider user for other anime series powers.
 

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I think part of it as well is, lets say youre a fan of any other anime series that has amazing fights and powers, eg just taking for example, My Hero Academia, One Piece, Bleach, Solo Levelling, Overlord (anything really) the issue was that the canon naruto techniques were always going to be way more overpowered and strong, because you could only make customs techniques up to a certain level. Hopefully with this reboot, and techniques are all equally powered, it would open up for more of a wider user for other anime series powers.
Agreed. However that begs the question, you don't think CCs cover this? Or you think it should just be more widely acceptable and available?
 

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Agreed. However that begs the question, you don't think CCs cover this? Or you think it should just be more widely acceptable and available?

considering the effort to get a CC, the fact you cant drop it, its super exclusive where if you want to make that ability but it already exists then you cant, and they can decide if you can use that ability or not? That and also you can only make one ability? What if i have three or more seperate ideas I all want to explore or try? Do i have to make three separate accounts, get them to sage, then create the clans?

I mean phases sweep through people's interest all the time. as an example, big example is Scorps jedi clan. if a new person wants to join, is a big star wars fan, they cant make that ability despite it just sitting there.

More or less just opening up the ability to be creative allows people to replicate what they want, how they want instead.
 

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considering the effort to get a CC, the fact you cant drop it, its super exclusive where if you want to make that ability but it already exists then you cant, and they can decide if you can use that ability or not? That and also you can only make one ability? What if i have three or more seperate ideas I all want to explore or try? Do i have to make three separate accounts, get them to sage, then create the clans?

I mean phases sweep through people's interest all the time. as an example, big example is Scorps jedi clan. if a new person wants to join, is a big star wars fan, they cant make that ability despite it just sitting there.

More or less just opening up the ability to be creative allows people to replicate what they want, how they want instead.
Don't get me started on Binkan... That's all you had to say.
 

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Not so much that, but currently the whole system is based around the original Naruto RP game, everything from sensei's to doujutsu, custom clans, kekkei genkai etc. all the language is currently hyper specific. If someone who comes in and has never seen naruto before, how do they know what the difference between a hidden ability, a kekkei genkai, an advanced ninjutsu is?

I think removing all association from naruto, while shocking and probably tough to agree with, would actually open up the RP to be advertised to other communities. Instead, calling it an Isekai RP allows it to have people instead be open to creating their own character.
If its advertised as 'hey come join this naruto RP, but its not really naruto, you can create what ever abilities you want' not only will you get people snubbing their noses because its naruto, people that havent even seen naruto, or people just not interested because they dont like the naruto system.

I think a rebrand as an Isekai RP instead would be beneficial because there are many different Isekai series that can have their power system easily integrated or adapted into our RP game (even if we keep the same system). ADDITIONALLY the reason I suggest Isekai RP is because a generic genre rp is easier to get people into rather than advertising a singular one. something like 'hey come join our generic magic rp' doesnt work because it might not come across as actual anime, 'hey come join our anime rp' doesnt work because it could be any anime from sailor moon to spy x family to bleach to what ever.

Again, I acknowledge it might not be a popular idea, and we might always call it Naruto RP in our hearts, but I really insist we should rebrand the rp system and language if we want to try get more people in. otherwise its just going to be the same 10-15 people or less that will participate.



I started writing the above before this post, but its not necessarily a whole system that needs to change, but the language or way that its presented should be changed. With this opportunity for the RP to actually be changed and have a full work up, I think we should considered a language and theme rebrand as well. Not only this but also, the site itself is barely Naruto themed anymore, outside of the exclusive naruto rp. The naruto discussion is its own section, much like MHA, OP etc.

So out of curiousity, what would the canon ability structure look like in the isekai rp. Youd be removing all the jutsu as they couldnt just go through the rename process, so what generic canon abilities are there that can be consolidated through a vast range of titles as well as remain balanced between all of them? Kick, punch stab or slash?

Generic can be good and open up alot of opportunities, but if something is too generic it loses any form of identity that differentiates it from something else. Not all power systems are the same or can be balanced with another. Its why i think Naruto is a good foundation.
 

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Starting think some people don't actually like the RP and forget there's entire RP section that isn't naruto based. xD
To be fair, those are not and never will be as detailed and developed as the Naruto RP. Only way for that to happen is for there to be a mod or two for that section to edit and add stuff.
 

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ive said my piece, admin and creators can decide what they want to do, but keeping it too similar/rigid will see no growth is all Im saying, and the game wont last past 18 months with less than 10 people playing it.
 

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I think part of it as well is, lets say youre a fan of any other anime series that has amazing fights and powers, eg just taking for example, My Hero Academia, One Piece, Bleach, Solo Levelling, Overlord (anything really) the issue was that the canon naruto techniques were always going to be way more overpowered and strong, because you could only make customs techniques up to a certain level. Hopefully with this reboot, and techniques are all equally powered, it would open up for more of a wider user for other anime series powers.
weren't u a mod before????...
 
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