Revive 🍜 The Ramen Bar: Open discussion about AB's revival

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Custom solution: people can use their old customs but only in BA, if they want to use them in the NW, they have to submit them for review and addition to canon list.
It would also free up space for new customs for people who don’t want to use their customs anymore and ensure customs are updated.

make a way like Pervy said and you a legacy system for older customs, and I still believe we need to reboot the system and improve on what is already there.
Just don’t take away peoples hard work over the years but make it accessible for them.
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The map is way too big for a small player base, you need to shrink it, you can always expand it later. Keep it smaller more tightly knit to one area or a smaller map to begin with and then expand when more players arrive
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Really the main point and I agree with it, mods were inactive main reason it failed.

Secondly for the customs I have a slightly different idea which I posted further down but now that I read this I personally feel this is a better option for people’s customs but if people want to keep them to themselves then they just can’t use them in official fights until updated

I forget a whole new area was added, sure shrink it but keep the landmark system. Maybe two or three countries (nw wise) is more optimal but I genuinely think the size (w/o expansion) is fine even with 5 players. Though maybe scaling back the size of each landmark along with the whole map works better since a whole ass landmark is about the size of a metropolis city or state/county lmfao
 

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I forget a whole new area was added, sure shrink it but keep the landmark system. Maybe two or three countries (nw wise) is more optimal but I genuinely think the size (w/o expansion) is fine even with 5 players. Though maybe scaling back the size of each landmark along with the whole map works better since a whole ass landmark is about the size of a metropolis city or state/county lmfao
r u sure about tis????..mind me to dizagree..

Yo Vesrovio...can u add this sunglass boss :cool: enoji to list of like reactions?????..
 

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I remember when there was a rule against double posting xD
 

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I see the customs situation is still a big part of the current discussion and I dont want to ignore that, but let's put a pin in that for now; regarding other aspects of the RP ( Bios, Sensei/Sempais/Training, Abilities, etc ), what do you guys want to see changed or added? What do you think about the current systems in place? Are they too bothersome or difficult? I want to know how you guys feel about these parts of the RP as it helps determine how much of it could stay or needs to alter. Keep in mind the ultimate goal should be growth, ease of system and most importantly, a new expansion of the game that allows for newer members to easily join vs what we have now where it's hard for new members to fully jump in due to power curve, lengthy threads, and poor navigation of rule threads.
 

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I see the customs situation is still a big part of the current discussion and I dont want to ignore that, but let's put a pin in that for now; regarding other aspects of the RP ( Bios, Sensei/Sempais/Training, Abilities, etc ), what do you guys want to see changed or added? What do you think about the current systems in place? Are they too bothersome or difficult? I want to know how you guys feel about these parts of the RP as it helps determine how much of it could stay or needs to alter. Keep in mind the ultimate goal should be growth, ease of system and most importantly, a new expansion of the game that allows for newer members to easily join vs what we have now where it's hard for new members to fully jump in due to power curve, lengthy threads, and poor navigation of rule threads.
Im going to ramble a bit, so Ill say the important key points then put more details in a spoiler.
-Change system so damage and abilities scale off stats instead of the technique/rank
-Remove requirements/tests, if scaling off stats, makes so that a basic madara bio and basic jin/bijuu is as strong as a basic bio with an AE.
-Create a player/bio level separate from a rank. Eg player A is a jounin level 21, player B is a Jounin level 18, Player C is a Chuunin rank 15 etc.
-Bio creation should be simplified a lot to get into it.
-Potentially remove all restrictions and change to a points based system allowing any combination of abilities (like the old CC prestige) as long as you got the points.
-Limit abilities on bios, eg 3 of 5 basic elements, 2 basic skills
-If the RP goes to a generic anime power fantasy game, remove stuff like 'neutral to all', make it a genuine rock paper scissors game like the basic elements.

Id like to see action sooner rather than later, with updates on what is happening behind the scenes. LoK started doing this and actually felt like things were progressing instead of just being stale and nothing happening behind the scenes, like our complaints and voices were ignored. Of course RL stuff happens, and he was honest about that, but even jsut the effort to say that at least helped us to know what was going on rather than jsut spamming how unhappy we were.

Lastly, this is just a personal goal, but id love to see an interactive map, i know it would probably require someone skilled in programming, but having a NW map that updated when you moved your character would be cool, and you could see where everyone was at. Im picturing like a map, with like a pin and your avatar on the head, in the landmark, and you click on a landmark next to it to move, and then you got a 45 min cooldown etc. you could then have a log next to it like 19:54 X move from LM41 to LM42
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below here is a bit more in depth about what i mentioned above, its a bit more of a ramble off the top of my head.
I recommend strongly changing the power system/abilities to scale off AP or stats rather than the attack/technique itself. Reason being every single game/system, attack damage goes off your stats rather than the technique itself. Easier way to balance everything. Like, having you abilities scale more off your AP makes it so much more important to make a build rather than being 'ill go even and then just boost up everything'.
Id much rather see diverse builds in the rp and actuall ahve people choose what to focus on because even though the AP system was introduced an it was a benefit, it still really allowed people jsut to master everything, even if they dropped points. It felt like it was still about throwing nukes around.

Its been mentioned before but changing bios to not require tests, which can be balanced by again, changing to a stats based system, meaning that even if you have an 'end game bio' it doesnt matter if you ahve the stats. it lets people roleplay or grow their character from the start. eg you can play as Madara before he gets MS/EMS etc.
Play as a bijuu bio before the power up. someone with a bijuu bio, is not an immediate t4 threat when nothing is unlocked. Id rather see someone start with a character like madara or a bijuu and work up, it promotes activity, it lets them work for their reward rather than testing them and saying yeah ok now you ahve an end game bio. it would also make people commit to their bio, instead of jumping around, like I know I ahve been known to do.

IF tests are still a thing or required, at least make it so that you do the training first, it never made sense to take a test, pass it, then get training for it.

I think a stats system should be separate from a ranking system. Just because youre a jonin, doesnt mean you should be 28 ap or what ever it is. it puts a cap on the level you can get and discourages people from participating if there is no reward. What I mean by this is:
Ninja Ranks could be something like a cap on the level of missions you can do.
Missions give you XP to increase your player level.
Player level can be something like you get 1 AP per level and you start with a base of 10 AP.
Encourages people to keep playing to level up, no cap or hitting a ceiling then stopping.
Rewards players that are active and gives them incentive to keep being active.
Makes sense that the most active players are higher levels.
Same way that casual players in games dont have the same high level gear etc.
Can develop a catch up system or things like double XP weekends etc.

I know you put a lot of effort into Nindo's, and they were cool, but I think they should be like a bonus or some kind of title you get per arc or something. Simplify the Bio process down.
Speaking of Bios, you could look at doing something like a points based system for abilities, allowing any combination of abilities to be put onto a bio, as long as its within the points limit. I know that was sort of played around with events previously, but could allow with a great combination and lure more players in.
I think something like having a points based system would be beneficial at least as well to help balance out power if stats are not introduced.

I dont know how popular it would be, but Id prefer a limit of 3 of the basic 5 elements per bio. It was said that only exceptional and special ninja had all 5 elements. I think actually narrowing down what you can have, would simplify Bio creation a lot.

I know there has been a lot said and this has really only been a discussion since saturday, so only 3 days, but I think action sooner rather than later to keep the momentum going would be really beneficial, rather than letting the enthusiasm die down and eventually just not be worth it.
 

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Not that anyone cares, but if the rp resets and i lose all those abilities/permissions ive spent countless hours on grinding - i’m not going to be a part of it. I dont mind a reset that would result the end of all our customs because of a revamp in technique interaction though. Still the biggest issue that this rp has (to me) is that every single thing you do in order to advance needs to be looked at and approved by an audience of no one. Automation needs to be a part of a new iteration.
 

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Not that anyone cares, but if the rp resets and i lose all those abilities/permissions ive spent countless hours on grinding - i’m not going to be a part of it. I dont mind a reset that would result the end of all our customs because of a revamp in technique interaction though. Still the biggest issue that this rp has (to me) is that every single thing you do in order to advance needs to be looked at and approved by an audience of no one. Automation needs to be a part of a new iteration.

if you don’t mind losing customs, then that’s a good attitude to have.
 

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But you can’t be the rp mod. Minamoto called dibs.
I dont want to be a mod again. Best time i had in the rp was when my clan had some newbies and we fd around in the nw with a goal of kicking various ass. Community, now thats what i’d love to relive.
 
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