[VS] Mother and Father Puppets (Chiyo) vs The Shadow Hokage (Danzo)

[Infant]

Lady Chiyo uses her Life Transfer technique on the Mother and Father Puppets to become reborn into them, with their standard equipment
Danzo, as he was before the Five Shadows Meeting

No knowledge. All other conditions fair

 

[Troi]

Danzo would tear that arse up with his wind style. Not sure who would actually win but the summon I believe would tank a chunk of what Chiyo could do and Danzo is capable at any range with a harder gimmick to perceive than her’s.

 

[Infant]

Danzo would tear that arse up with his wind style. Not sure who would actually win but the summon I believe would tank a chunk of what Chiyo could do and Danzo is capable at any range with a harder gimmick to perceive than her’s.

Wouldn't the blades and wires be a perfect counter to it?

 

[Troi]

Wouldn't the blades and wires be a perfect counter to it?

The summon? Perhaps. But if anything it doesn’t have to attack to serve a purpose. It’s purpose could serve as a body dummy.

 

[Infant]

The summon? Perhaps. But if anything it doesn’t have to attack to serve a purpose. It’s purpose could serve as a body dummy.

Yes

Tactics is an important part of battle

 

[Bob74h]

bos sasuke no diffed bos sakura who is arguably stronger then the mother and father puppets
Danzo > Bos sasuke > bos sakura > mother and father puppets

 

[Infant]

bos sasuke no diffed bos sakura who is arguably stronger then the mother and father puppets
Danzo > Bos sasuke > bos sakura > mother and father puppets

Didn't she charge at him after seeing his powers?

That says she saw herself as good enough to beat what she knew of him uo till that point, which was practically everything.

 

[Bob74h]

Didn't she charge at him after seeing his powers?

That says she saw herself as good enough to beat

Not at all unless you think choji is above kakuzu because he tried rushing him and then getting destroyed.
Or if you think tenten is stronger then raiga as she tried rushing him. Is naruto tenten sevens swords level now?

 

[Infant]

Not at all unless you think choji is above kakuzu because he tried rushing him and then getting destroyed.
Or if you think tenten is stronger then raiga as she tried rushing him. Is naruto tenten sevens swords level now?

Different situations involving different knowledge and teamwork settings.

Nonetheless, the latter examples could simply have been stupid, as proven by their defeats

 

[Plendamonda]

I mean, I probably like Chiyo and her puppets more than the next guy but I don’t see how this is a fair match.

Chiyo herself would probably do better.

Bringing the puppets to life is cool and all but I don’t see how you can rank them anywhere near as impressive as a high Kage level ninja of Danzo’s caliber.

There just isn’t a good way to argue that have any substantial advantage in any area, except maybe durability and lack of pain.

they aren’t faster, don’t have better ninjutsu or genjutsu. They are just wooden weapons users. But Danzo’s sounds style techniques are superior in every regard and he has sharingan, 10 izanagi, and a powerful summon that honestly probably just instantly destroys them. They don’t have something like the Susanoo to resist it’s pull.

 

[Infant]

they aren’t faster

They tore through the hands of the 3rd KK puppet before Sasori could react.

Projectile movements are usually faster than body movement. Chiyo herself being able to move in the same battle field as KCM Naruto puts them as very fast.

a powerful summon that honestly probably just instantly destroys them

Using its pull against it to throw weapons into its mouth seems like a good option

 

[Plendamonda]

They tore through the hands of the 3rd KK puppet before Sasori could react.

Projectile movements are usually faster than body movement. Chiyo herself being able to move in the same battle field as KCM Naruto puts them as very fast.

So what are you trying to say here exactly? They are faster than Sasori and his puppets? Are you really going to ignore how the 3rd Kazekage puppet literally fought them to a draw in a 2v1 moments later?

The only thing I can take away is that they are faster than the *retraction* speed of the arms. That doesn’t really say much of anything, because they clearly aren’t faster than Sasori can react.

Using its pull against it to throw weapons into its mouth seems like a good option

That thing was sucking in all kinds of trees and shit bro, their thrown weapons almost certainly aren’t going to do anything and just get sucked along with everything else. Sasuke’s fireball worked because it was so massive and it was … you know **fire**, being amped by the suction. It burned. The puppets don’t have anything that large, and they don’t have anything aside from some small point bits of metal.

Also, while the puppets are dealing with that, Danzo is free to attack them with enhanced attacks, the same way he did against Sasuke’s Susanoo

 

[Infant]

So what are you trying to say here exactly?

That they are so fast that Sasori could barely retract the 3rd KK arms before they reached his puppet.

There is a difference between movement and activation speed, so there is no problem with their draw.

With Sasori scaling above a Deidara who is as fast as the 2nd TK in speed, who himself scales above a 4th RK who in turn scales a solid level above Sasuke in speed, who himself is roughly equal to Danzo, the puppets cannot possibly be slower here.

That thing was sucking in all kinds of trees and shit bro, their thrown weapons almost certainly aren’t going to do anything and just get sucked along with everything else. Sasuke’s fireball worked because it was so massive and it was … you know **fire**, being amped by the suction. It burned. The puppets don’t have anything that large, and they don’t have anything aside from some small point bits of metal.

Also, while the puppets are dealing with that, Danzo is free to attack them with enhanced attacks, the same way he did against Sasuke’s Susanoo

Good point.

What of poison then? A poisoned needle should knock out the summon. They puppets could also ride the current of the wind to speed towards the summon and then use their own power to move apart and cut it down with the wires. Them being outright faster than the speed of the suction should translate to them being able to outdo it.

Mind you, would you claim a difference in movement capabilities between the puppets being strung along by Chiyo and them without Chiyo using strings?