[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

[Nessos]

Because he's scum? What do you mean what's the goal?

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Fun fact anyone besides you read me as Town. But yeah you are the true pro who found out that I am scum

 

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Sry didn't saw the rules saying you are Not allowed to point scummy behaviour If you never played with them.

Why are you allowed to rate my play scummy or not. Where do you from how I play?


In other words your defense is nothing but WIFOM and again scummy af.

You opened up your playbook of scum reading 101, saw that scum TMI to get town cred, and simply applied that very basic concept to multiple people in this game. I'm sure if you ask around you'll find that I'm not a beginner in this game, so please tell me why you think that you're idea of me TMIing is scummy?

Well, if my defense is nothing but WIFOM, doesn't that mean that since I'm arguing your ideas, that they must be WIFOM as well? Like, you want to say that I'm TMIing for town cred, but IF I was TMIing, you haven't even considered other possibilities, yet you desperately wanted to push my lynch at EOD for flimsy reasons. Basically your reasons for voting me at EOD breaks down to this:

1) I apparently gave Alice and Kyte free passes despite most people actually giving them free passes last day phase as well (what was the highest vote count on either of them last day phase?).

2) You say I was TMI on Alice without considering that a) I didn't TMI or b) that if I did TMI, does it HAVE to be scum TMI.

3) I made an entrance (that I copied and pasted) and apparently didn't live up to your supposed expectations. I'm curious though, in your eyes, am I pro or a noob, because you're trying to attribute scummy pings on me from both perspectives.


I'll say, scum have a tendency to not back down when faced with something that they've done incorrectly. Despite numerous players referencing how I copied my entrance, you used that as your initial reason for suspecting me and then when educated on the matter, you chose to find other fallacious ways to paint me as scum.

 

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Afraid your scumbuddy might flip?
I am just asking for his target Not Last night only night 0. In which way do you think it would hurt Town of Kyte reveals that Info?

Reveal who Acce is. From a flavor perspective, it's clear Acce needs to be converted to town by Kamijou yet you've taken measures to prevent that from happening.

 

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you told me to join the wagon for a bit, what do you mean by that if he's the scum?

Aether, I shouldn't have to spell this out for you.

 

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Fun fact anyone besides you read me as Town. But yeah you are the true pro who found out that I am scum

How much longer will you hold my copy and pasted entrance against me in a scum light despite you already being wrong on this?

 

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It should be noted that even though I'm apparently so scummy in Nessos' eyes, he doesn't want to vote me. He also mentioned I was his top suspect. Why is he voting Demon then?

 

[Aether9]

Reveal who Acce is. From a flavor perspective, it's clear Acce needs to be converted to town by Kamijou yet you've taken measures to prevent that from happening.

now that you mention, @Nessos I believe you can clear this up now.

 

[Rej]

I'm just sheeping Demon's vote. Nothing wrong with sheeping votes, right?

it is bad, because you said earlier you wanna pressure me and now its suddenly a sheep vote and you seemingly don't aim to push a majority candidate here

nika, demon, rej, johan and ansa whould be the primary target this phase.

I'll be off now

this sounds like an absolute statement and I dont like it

 

[Nessos]

2) You say I was TMI on Alice without considering that a) I didn't TMI or b) that if I did TMI, does it HAVE to be scum TMI

Alice did a stretch from claiming being Bus driving to claim being roleblocked confirmed by host. For me sth. that needs to be questioned. You directly give her a free pass without questioning this stretch a single time.

Town TMI can be excluded according to her claim we can expect all actions in her failed.

-> only scummy TMI left


Thats quite simple isn't it?



And what else did you do?

• You announced a huge case against Shanks, but you drop it,
• Followed by placing an OMGUS vote against me
• and finally you announced you will be the great leader in D2.
• Day 2 you started with sheeping the troll Demon followed by pushing again your OMGUS-train

And for an unknown reason you don't want that your scumbuddy Kyte offers his Night 0 target

 

[Aether9]

it is bad, because you said earlier you wanna pressure me and now its suddenly a sheep vote and you seemingly don't aim to push a majority candidate here



this sounds like an absolute statement and I dont like it

what absolute statement? and why dont you like it?

 

[Nessos]

It should be noted that even though I'm apparently so scummy in Nessos' eyes, he doesn't want to vote me. He also mentioned I was his top suspect. Why is he voting Demon then?

I am convinced Demon is scum. The way he presented himself at the beginning of this Day makes me think he is scum who throw the towel. And I want to hear his claim

Now you throw shade on me cause I didn't directly switched my vote on you?
Do you want me to do it so that you can call it OMGUS?!?

Its beginning of the Day Phase, but I promise you I willing to switch to.you later and Push my case on you.


Is twisting and shade throwing all you can do?
Pretty lame for a "veteran" player.

 

[Nessos]

Reveal who Acce is. From a flavor perspective, it's clear Acce needs to be converted to town by Kamijou yet you've taken measures to prevent that from happening.

I basically told @Johan3113 aka "confirmed Andrewww" who Accelerator is!


Johan softclaimed Kamijou so for now the only one who needs to know Accelerator.

Right now scum should fear Accelerator more then Town. You asking again and again for Accelerator while not being Kamijou also let me think you are scum.

 

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it is bad, because you said earlier you wanna pressure me and now its suddenly a sheep vote and you seemingly don't aim to push a majority candidate here

Sigh, I said I sheeped Demon's vote because I was mocking what you said your reason for voting me was; because you sheeped Nessos. Honestly Rej, I do suspect you. But considering you FROZE and big bad Nessos came in to save you, I decided to tangle with that wolf first.

 

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Alice did a stretch from claiming being Bus driving to claim being roleblocked confirmed by host. For me sth. that needs to be questioned. You directly give her a free pass without questioning this stretch a single time.

Town TMI can be excluded according to her claim we can expect all actions in her failed.

-> only scummy TMI left


Thats quite simple isn't it?



And what else did you do?

• You announced a huge case against Shanks, but you drop it,
• Followed by placing an OMGUS vote against me
• and finally you announced you will be the great leader in D2.
• Day 2 you started with sheeping the troll Demon followed by pushing again your OMGUS-train

And for an unknown reason you don't want that your scumbuddy Kyte offers his Night 0 target

Sigh, I watched you tunnel Alice for like, 60 hours, only to be proven wrong when she claimed. I properly read Alice and was able to make a good town read, don't blame me for TMI just because you were DEAD wrong.

1) I went to ISO Shanks to make a case against him, and as I read his posts over, I realized how I was wrong about, simple as that. I know that admitting you were wrong about something is an unfathomable idea to you, but I'm a man so I can admit when I'm wrong about something. Actually, my read being so wrong about Shanks made me realize I needed to read this game over because obviously I was missing something. So in the end, this is actually a positive.

2) I've already explained why it isn't an OMGUS vote. Never have I ever OMGUS in a game. It's insulting getting called this. You've yet to address any of my rebuttals I've made and seem to be stuck on repeat.

3) This is now a scum point against me? This is a new one you just threw in in your case against me. Trust me, I have a few more tricks up my sleeves, providing I need them.

4) This was me mocking Rej for saying that the reason he voted for me at EOD was because he sheeped your vote on me. Naturally, if I had sheeped Demon, Rej really shouldn't have a problem with it, nor should you considering you didn't say anything about Rej sheeping your vote.

5) Kyte is allowed to say whatever he wants. All I said is that you seem eager to know what people did during the NPs and who they targeted.

 

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I am convinced Demon is scum. The way he presented himself at the beginning of this Day makes me think he is scum who throw the towel. And I want to hear his claim

Now you throw shade on me cause I didn't directly switched my vote on you?
Do you want me to do it so that you can call it OMGUS?!?

Its beginning of the Day Phase, but I promise you I willing to switch to.you later and Push my case on you.


Is twisting and shade throwing all you can do?
Pretty lame for a "veteran" player.

WIFOM.

Stick to your top guns, Nessy. It just felt weird how when day opened, you just dropped me altogether until I called you out.

Nessy, I NEVER accuse anyone of being OMGUS, it's lazy and dismissive. Instead, if I vote for someone and they vote for me, I don't get angry or upset or cry, like you are doing, I analyze their vote and ask them why they are voting for me. I had initial suspicion of you early in the game for all your mechanical talk. Unlike someone like Johan, who I felt talked a lot about mechanics, at least gave some attention to scum hunting, while you solely focused on the mechanics of the game, almost as if you were trying to create dialogue, biding your time for someone to pounce on. And then Alice came in with her information and you jumped all over her and tunneled until you were on the other side of the world. Only to be wrong. Once you were wrong about Alice, you shifted to me, after I said I was going to be away for EOD, and then discussed your vote in the shape of the idea that you had 'suspected me before' even though your vote at the time was weak. I think your tunnel vision has been a good way to jack up that post count and power wolf your way into this game, a game that admittedly is prime grounds for a power wolf to play in. I promise you Nessy, I am not OMGUS voting you.

 

[Nessos]

Sigh, I watched you tunnel Alice for like, 60 hours, only to be proven wrong when she claimed. I properly read Alice and was able to make a good town read, don't blame me for TMI just because you were DEAD wrong.

So you watch 60h Long while you yourself did nothing. Someone try to solve vs someone who lurks and doing nothing, what is more scummy?

I have No Problems with being wrong once. Also I created Activity and the stuff created through my tunnelnare interist too.

Btw whats the difference between your tunnel and my? Yours based on OMGUS my was based on a infoclaim that Had many holes

that you seem eager to know what people did during the NPs and who they targeted

Cause I have some TMI and want @Kyte_ to reveal a tiny Detail that can't help scum.

But as always you use everything to throw shade and twist to keep pushing your OMGUS-tunnel.

 

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I basically told @Johan3113 aka "confirmed Andrewww" who Accelerator is!


Johan softclaimed Kamijou so for now the only one who needs to know Accelerator.

Right now scum should fear Accelerator more then Town. You asking again and again for Accelerator while not being Kamijou also let me think you are scum.

And no one seems to know who the hell you were trying to hint at.

Okay, but do you disagree with the flavor of Acce needing to be converted? Considering he's the strongest dude on the Science Side, I think having him as a confirmed townie would be a great boon for town, yeah?

To make it clear, I don't give a shit about Acce claiming or being unearthed. In fact, I actually don't love claiming, and people that know me can quote me on that. However, considering the mechanics and set-up of this game, and how there have already been a couple claims in this game, I don't think that will be avoidable as long as I had hoped.

 

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If you feel Johan has been talking constantly about mechanics, how do you feel about Nessos? I haven't seen a post from them yet that isn't discussing mechanics in some way.

So here is my initial read on Nessos early on in the game. It lead credence to my scum read of Nessos and how it developed in a further more solid read.

 

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So you watch 60h Long while you yourself did nothing. Someone try to solve vs someone who lurks and doing nothing, what is more scummy?

I have No Problems with being wrong once. Also I created Activity and the stuff created through my tunnelnare interist too.

Btw whats the difference between your tunnel and my? Yours based on OMGUS my was based on a infoclaim that Had many holes




Cause I have some TMI and want @Kyte_ to reveal a tiny Detail that can't help scum.

But as always you use everything to throw shade and twist to keep pushing your OMGUS-tunnel.

Nessy, do you want me to outline my schedule for you since this game started? I simply did not have the time to be as active as I would have liked to be. The exact same thing happened to me last game on this forum, something that @Rej commented on in this game but still voted for me. Activity should be NAI, yet me not being around is held against me. Everything you're holding against me is so flimsy.

What does creating activity have to do with anything? And then I think you had a stroke or something near the end of this sentence.

Where's my tunnel? I am literally just now coming after you for the last six hours. You tunneled for 10x the amount. Let me have my piece with you, and once everything is said and done, I'll go on to your wolf friends. Just because you're my first attention in this phase, doesn't mean you're my only one.

How many times have you said this exact phrase about my alleged OMGUDS-tunnel? Is this the only thing you can cry about?

 

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@Poison @Elmage G Ace

I need you both to vote for Nessos here. Doesn't matter if you change your vote at some point, I just want to see it right now.