[Game] AnimeBase Mafia Players Game!!! #29

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Well I did find it odd though, if I didnt make that clear enough I'm sorry lol. Luk saying I was clear town because my intro was townier than last game - when I was town - was odd to me because it shows that whether I make a scummy or towny introduction doesnt matter and I can still be either alignment.

It felt like tmi, but I also thought that it is possible that Luk could be town and just has a flawed reason to town read me and I wanted to point it out but not much else. It didnt make me want to immediately scumread him either, because his read could also come from the fact that he might feel that as scum I'd have a more awkward introduction rather than my gif intro which makes me seem more relaxed than anything and unlike last game it doesnt feel like I'm trying to force the idea that I'm town.

Luk I feel his mind goes all over the place and I really dont disbelieve that he couldve just town read me immediately for that reason.
Tbh I like this post from Imperfection. It feels genuine.
 

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I'd shoot Gomes and yeet beeboy here.

Not really sure why Poison is even being focused right now. She has a ton of posts.

Elmage's intro was very unnatural for him.

I really just don't give a crap about any top posters right now being scum, sorry

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I'd shoot Gomes and yeet beeboy here.

Not really sure why Poison is even being focused right now. She has a ton of posts.

Elmage's intro was very unnatural for him.

I really just don't give a crap about any top posters right now being scum, sorry

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How both of them a suspect to you?
 

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How both of them a suspect to you?
I've already made a previous post saying why.

beeboat's posts are horrendous, he sorted nobody and cares too much about his image by spouting things that I don't buy he genuinely would buy / be interested in as a villager.

Gomes' engine took too much to heat here compared to his champs game and he seems very disengaged.

This is a town player that made reads based on countries and timezones, none of his posts reflect a paranoid villager solving the game with insane theorycrafting.

The Poison vote is also very weaksauce.
 
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Yeah. She’s really off. However not in the same way as last match. Either neutral or a different scum play style.
Luk, you played with me as scum before, you played with me as town before are you really being serious here? Can really not see what's happening?
Stop your mouth spilling bullshit and give your arse a chance. I’ve already told you I have no read on Ansa, Christ almighty. Do you read a damn thing you’re told. Ever? Sheesh. Also I’d put you as scum cause you’re scummy af.
I will never ping you, you sound like the person I want to punch in the face if I can.
So tell you how to be townie? Do it yourself.
Nope, you are totally speaking besides the point.
I asked you a simple question as to why you don't find anything AI about Ansa, instead of answering that you are giving me this? Or are you not sure whether to push him or keep him, cause he is actually really town but he is pushing elsewhere and if by any chance I flip, he can be an easy target the next day? So are you keeping him in neutral for that so you can tilt him either way as per the situation?

Cause I don't believe your statement which practically meant that none of Ansa's posts are AI.

And you should answer to my question as to what you find AI, instead of saying what you just said above.
I don’t remember seeing me say that. But I can see him TRing him over me.
Yes that's why I asked you what you meant by this quote below:
tbh anyone except Ryu.
It seemed like you told Rej that you are not satisfied with his town core list except for Ryu. If that's true you are town reading him too?

If not what did you mean here exactly?
Since when am i scary???

Also am getting town impression of you and poison argue back and fourth.

Though i will leave note, you feel more off then her, since she wants to focus on the game but your claiming she scum because she not arguing and backing off with the tunneling?

Tunneling-loose focus of the game, why it's never good. And your sus because she wants to improve her gameplay by not using it?

I'v play 1 game with her on tb, and i recall when she was scum she had low post. Here she is more active/with others. Which gives me impression she is town. Though you are more familiar with her then me. So if she done high post count while scum. I could be wrong. But she looks town lean for me.
Yeah exactly! Tbh I'm not surprised, I am taking at least coming 5-6 games for me experimenting with my plaustyle in order to step up my game.

But come on @Ansatsuken seriously? All I'm asking you is to ISO me you find find something that you don't ever want to lynch me for. Just ISO me well.

Do you feel like you can't get a read on me at all?

I don't get why you're undermining my contribution unless you found it completely useless / nai.

I've given 2 reads.
Oh really you want me to make a read on you based on your contribution where all you did was 2 reads? Also, I didn't even like your reads that well.

Also, no TSQ, from past experiences it's really hard trust you. I will always consider you scum unless proven otherwise.

this is bs. Go back and read what I wrote. I said I didn't read your argument with Ansa.
I will say it again. I read your other posts.
Buddying you? I want you to be in my town core yeah. Why it's such a bad thing? (It's only bad if u're not town lol)

What again?

so CWAC?
I want you to bring that Iso yes and point exactly to the CWAC. Otherwise it's empty.
You do realise right what I'm trying to say to you?

You cannot have me as a town based on only my earlier posts? The hell you want to let me be in your town core without reading the cases against me? No town would do that, that's not at all healthy for town. You town read a player based on their posts. But you also read other arguments as to why she is scum and then you think and then you make your mind and come to a conclusion.

How can you not read the argument when someone is sold on the fact that your possible town core is scum and has actually made more than few posts about it? Even after that how can anyone keep their mind set upon the player as town based on only the previous posts?

Buddying can be useful to you if you are scum and not me who is getting pocketed.
 

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@Toujo post:

Why do you keep insisting that you are obvious town? Like, have I missed something? Why am I supposed to just read you as town? Because you say so?
You are missing the whole thing. You played with me as scum last game!!!

Why im keep insisting? Not really it's rather very shocking to me as to why I'm not being an obvious town to everyone, I mean what is it? Let me ask you this bold and clear : @Toujo Are you scum reading me? What do you find scummy about me? Can you quote the posts that induced those reads on me? If you are not scum reading me, then what are exactly your views on me right now?

Of course you can. Where have I told you differently?
Your tone seemed to say that.
I mean, not really. Your read on X essentially amounted to "this is what I would do as scum" - I'm questioning the value in that conclusion given that what one does as scum is directly correlated to their personality and playstyle, and you and X share little to no similarities in either regard.
Are you sure you are reading my posts? If you did, you of course read my views against him? In pretty sure I said more than "that's what I do as scum". Seriously, read my posts.
By default? It's not. I never said it was.
You literally quoted my post of my read list and said "A whole lot of nothing"
Just going to stop you here. In this post alone, several times in fact, you have put words into my mouth, and tried to argue against conclusions you're saying I've made, that I haven't actually made. Stop doing that. Seriously, stop it. It's annoying. I don't want to have to start every single point in reply to you explaining that what you are arguing against is things I have no actually said. I said your reads post was a lot of nothing because the reads themselves were given vapid, shallow reasoning and the conclusions they presented were similarly vapid and shallow. There was nothing in there that would convince me your reads were worth anything, nor was there anything in there that would help me understand your position. It felt like you were looking for a way to make a reads post, and not that you felt the need to make one. This isn't intrinsically scumm,y sadly, but it's worth pointing out all the same.
"Vapid Reads"

Let me ask you, with this level of activity and this level of content from the players how would you form reads or expect others to have their reads formed exactly?

Okay, which ones did you find "Vapid" again? My null reads? They are null because I have nothing. My town read? I think I explained why Ansa is town more than twice and quite briefly. My scum reads? I think we were just discussing about it, and I also explained as to why they are seen so quite briefly.

What exactly do you find "Vapid" and "shallow reasoning"?

No? Like, how the **** did you even get to this conclusion? I'm asking Aether if he is going to contribute. Therefore, it is obvious that what he has put forth thus far, is not contributive. Therefore, it matches "nothing", rather than "a lot of something". So how the **** did you get the impression that I thought "Hmm" was in any form contributive? Are you just not reading my posts? Is that it? Because that makes sense then. If you're reading, and this was the conclusion you came to, then frankly your cognitive ability leaves a lot to be desired. A LOT.
You know how I got there? Cause just the post above you said "a whole lot of nothing" to a read list!!!! So If you react to a read list as nothing, I would expect you to actually react to a "hmmm" way differently how you actually reacted.

You see how I got there?

A read list = whole lot of nothing.
Hmmm = are you giving something to us today?
 

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I've already made a previous post saying why.

beeboat's posts are horrendous, he sorted nobody and cares too much about his image by spouting things that I don't buy he genuinely would buy / be interested in as a villager.

Gomes' engine took too much to heat here compared to his champs game and he seems very disengaged.

This is a town player that made reads based on countries and timezones, none of his posts reflect a paranoid villager solving the game with insane theorycrafting.

The Poison vote is also very weaksauce.
Beeboat could be busy so I think that's why he still not here. Do you think scum gonna left their position hanging like that without any fear of something unexpected could happen to them later on? Because Beeboat has posted something in this game. A bunch of posts that people can read, analyze and think about. From those posts it can tells something about player that Beeboat has addressed and also about Beeboat himself. Like for example you here. You think that Beeboat's posts are horrendous. Because of that you think he's scum. If more people agree with you Beeboat sure in big trouble if he's a scum. He's not around so he can't control the situation. So for scum they should aware of situation like this and becoming more self aware. And I don't think Beeboat is self aware. So I think it's impossible for Beeboat to be scum.

Between Beeboat and Gomes I think there's a good chance Gomes could be scum compares to Beeboat.

He's lying very low, undetected. Hard to read by players.
 
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What? No seriously, what? Poison's response to me generated content. I have never argued that my way was the only thing that was generating any content. I just argued that my post generated content, as Poison responded in a worthwhile way. Where is the lie? Like literally, explain that to me. You're presenting a false dichotomy here with some of the most retarded assertions I can think of in response to me saying "hey, my big post wasn't nothing, because without it you wouldn't have this specific content". I did not say "this is the only form of that content". I did not say "this is super substantial stuff". It's clearly fucking factual because it gives you dialogue specifically between Poison and I, which you can then use to inform reads on us. Dialogue that looks like it will continue for a while longer at least too. How can that possibly be a lie? How can that possibly be "jackshit" when it clearly is not? Is this some sort of retarded "you're not doing anything because I don't like it" thing? Or what?
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it wasn't like Poison presented reads that just absolutely had to be shared.
Woah woah woah woah? So basically let me get this straight, tell me if in reading this right? According to you, I should not share my views on players if those are not VERY STRONG! What exactly is it that you want me to do in D1 with such low activity!?!?!!?!!?

Give me your read VERY NON - VAPID NON - SHALLOW REASONs Read list so that I can get a clear idea what you are talking about?
My towncore candidates are just candidates, dont take them for granted, rather make your read list and lets compare.
Why I get attacked in every game for making read lists?
anyway if you dont agree with my reads/towncore candidates, then please bring proper counter arguments, if you are
You are either reading it wrong on purpose or moulding my words on purpose, but definitely a purpose I see there, cause no where I said that I'm not agreeing with your read list or that I am totally against your read list

I asked for your reasonings as to why they are Town? And exactly how could you form a town pool so early?


Just wanna mention that this is her home forum she is naturally more active here than she ever was on TB, sadly.
Ehh
I can't read Alice so I'm going to say she is town who knows maybe she is scum. Every time I read as scum she turns out town so I gave up reading her.
If you can't read her, and have up on it how can you safely put her in the town?

I have given up on reading her as well and I put her in null for this purpose, every game.

@SoulKiller if you take poison scent you die immediately. Good luck.

Also anything more than just gifs!?


I'm baking a cake. Would catch up in between.
 

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Beeboat could be busy so I think that's why he still not here. Do you think scum gonna left their position hanging like that without any fear of something unexpected could happen to them later on? Because Beeboat has posted something in this game. A bunch of posts that people can read, analyze and think about. From those posts it can tells something about player that Beeboat has addressed and also about Beeboat himself. Like for example you here. You think that Beeboat's posts are horrendous. Because of that you think he's scum. If more people agree with you Beeboat sure in big trouble if he's a scum. He's not around so he can't control the situation. So for scum they should aware of situation like this and becoming more self aware. And I don't think Beeboat is self aware. So I think it's impossible for Beeboat to be scum.
This is terrible reasoning for town reading Beeboat and I question TMI here.
 

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You're implying he put himself in a bad position already with his posts but decide to town read him anyway.

I was the only one to point out him potentially being scum, so he didn't "leave it hanging like that" given that everyone else doesn't feel any sort of way on him.
 
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