[Game] AnimeBase Mafia Players Game!!! #29

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I get what you mean with the X factor hehe and it's not the case. I wanted to question her.

Well it felt weird cause it's an obvious filler, and doesn't add anything to the game at first impression.


And how is posting my thoughts in a hurry CWAC by your standards?
Just keep this in mind, no one knows your real life situation. You can very well fake it or you actually stating truth. Only you know it. So the CWAC impression was not coming from any standard but what I think of your post in this game. Not influenced by real life situation. It completely coming from in game situation.

You sounds salty to me honestly and I hope that's just it.
Please don't mistaken.


So what if I didn't take my time to understand everything? How does that make me scummy lol?
fine but where not in the case where to lynch someone just cause of policy lynch are we
It because you've ignored the details inside my post. You didn't bother to understand what I'm trying to conveyed. You just straight drawing the conclusion/drawing your thought on me. It's looked like you're trying to get me into the wrong situation and then I'm going to look guilty because of that. Let's recap,
Not interested in reading it rn. I want to look at all the players not just you.
But I DON.T understand how you deal with things: you wanna policy lynch Luke, then scum Poison and also wanna get Ryu onboard against me? XD
I think you have purposely writing the bold part to frame me. You combined a different section of my posts and put it in order/sequence. You made it looks like a working order I have prepared in this game. The truth is it's not like that. But why should scum cares about my reasoning or explanation right? When I wrongly lynch a player that's the chance for scum to tear me down. Happened to Houtarou before.

Hm first of all I can't rely much on your read of Poison. You read her town last game didn't you?
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I think she might be the wrong lynch because I lean her town. She doesn't seem so shy as she was in the last game. She is not so afraid to kick left and right. Ofc I can be wrong. I'm not asking you not to lynch her but I am telling you why I personally won't vote for her at this moment.
Keep me updated if you have other leads.

Rn I want to get more input from the silent players.
I'm not going to force you but I believe she is scum. If she's scum you have a potential to be one too. Because here you have shown something similar to Beeboat from the previous game. Yes he has voted Poison but he was avoiding Toujo in 1DP.
 
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It's not the reads list that's the issue. It's the weird system you've used that just makes it harder to determine due to the order it is placed in. I don't know what's wrong with "Town/Lean-Town/Null/Lean-Scum/Scum", and ranking the list in order roughly. Instead of using like 7 different colours to represent the same thing.
So, you're upset because I used colors instead of words? I know you're a smart guy Ratchet, so don't play dumb here and pretend like me using colors instead of saying "Town/Lean-Town/Null/Lean-Scum/Scum" for every player.

I feel like you missed my point here. My issue was you'd ranked those two players at the same level as you ranked yourself - what am I to take from that if not "very strong town read"? I actually don't really care much for people including themselves in their own reads lists, but when you introduce the styling you have, and you put yourself at the top (obviously) and teo others share that position, I'm going to question it when it comes without reason.
I mean, I believe you on that. I just wasn't impressed by what you put forth when you did come into this thread. Most of this post is much better though, at least because it gives some reasons behind your logic, and reasons I actually find, well... reasonable. Yet, I'm not removing my vote just yet, because...
I dislike this part. Particularly the bolded. It feels like an Appeal to Emotion, forcing me to either accept I'm being rude or I'm scum. I don't feel like I have been rude, all told. Aggressive, maybe? Sure. One more question - between Ansa and Luk, which one would you prefer to lynch today?
Now you're upset because I ranked myself? Look Ratchet, you're firing blanks at me and I'm not really sure why. You're literally clashing with me over how I decided to organize my reads list. It took me three minutes to color everybody's username with the shade I thought they were leaning. I wasn't really looking to make a giant, in-depth reads lists, ranked from towniest to scummiest. I copied and paste the player's list and viola, a super simple, shallow look at how I'm viewing players.

And finally you keep your vote on me because of emotion, instead of anything else. Gee Ratchet, this kind of looks like a shit case to me. I'd prefer to lynch Luk but I don't think either of them are the best D1 lynches.
 
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So, you're upset because I used colors instead of words? I know you're a smart guy Ratchet, so don't play dumb here and pretend like me using colors instead of saying "Town/Lean-Town/Null/Lean-Scum/Scum" for every player is something to be suspicious of.
 

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Interesting reaction. It's almost like you were waiting to pounce on me.

Didn't you already repeat that first line on Poison this game? How is this obtuse, Ratchet? You act like you've never seen a reads list before. I think there's something different about Ansa right out of the gate and I feel like he's playing too aggressively. I also don't like how he's chosen Poison and Tiger as his first targets to pick on; two members of the scum team last game. While Ansa doing this could be just his pent-up frustration from last game, his actions and reactions almost seem too methodically compared to last game where I felt he was more natural and easy-going. Luk has also been a tad aggressive, but dissimilar to the purely chaotic aggression he was showing last game. There were also a couple of specific things, but I've forgotten already (if you really must know, I suppose I can ISO Luk later). Your placement is simply yellow, not too suspicious, but still on the list. Your defense of Bee and you saying "I mean, given he was scum last game, Bee would have motivation to subtly change how he plays regardless of what he rolled, no?" pinged me because reading your posts this game, you are playing differently than I think I've ever seen you play before, and I just pinged on that subtle connection. Aether gets a soft blue town read because I've watched him play town now twice in a row and feel this could be the start of his town game as well (TBD). I think TSQ seemed game and ready to play and stir up the pot a bit. Angelus nicely defended himself from Poison's accusations (which I believe was her stirring up the pot a bit). And I mean, are you really questioning why I read myself town? Should I put myself on my own scum list? What are you trying to get at there?

What have you had enough of, exactly? You and I have not had a single interaction yet in this game, you actually defended me when Poison accused me of being scum because I was apparently playing like her scum meta, and I've clearly stated I was going to be busy until now. I was up at three thirty this morning to go and work for twelve hours (including six hours of driving) and I'm exhausted and want to go play Fallen Order. However, as I promised last night, I came on to catch up and be a respectful player to the host and my fellow players. Now, if you're not scum, **** you because you're being rude. Any other questions?
Please don't Mistaken. Tigerrr isn't my real target earlier but her response to my posts what had triggered me. The way she responds to my posts. So in simple words she started it all, not me. I you look back into our conversation I'm just a receiver and not a giver. I'm merely responding to all her posts towards me.
 
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As for @Toujo you also looked less active here compares to the previous game. So I still have a hard time to understand you much better in this game. But so far there's still nothing Scummy pinged me about you. Most of your posts for me feels more fairer and agenda less here. Maybe because you're town. As town you have more freedom to understand the player, to understand the situation. You're not being pressure by uncertainty and danger. As a scum you need to look for yourself, to look for your team mates, to make sure you or them stay very far from any lynch prospect. And also at the same time needs to look for a mislynch opportunity. So much work to do. I don't feel all that here. I see you're being more direct and clear and also less philosophical. And your assessment on player feels less opportunistic and without overdoing pressure.
 
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So you made such a fabulous next level entrance in page 11. Fast forward for your second post in page 13



You made this lovely post, if you did not read the thread then what were you "Hmmming" about ? just Hmmm for the sake of hmmm?
hmmm

Rej was referring to a certain scenario. I said that's not the case. X factor is supposed to be a pun from the show X FACTOR.
no, I mean you asked her if X would play like that as scum, it can be seen as a defense to X, but you said you wanted to question her, so my question is if the later is the case, what did you wanted to question her about?
 
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As for @Toujo you also looked less active here compares to the previous game. So I still have a hard time to understand you much better in this game. But so far there's still nothing Scummy pinged me about you. Most of your posts for me feels more fairer and agenda less here. Maybe because you're town. As town you have more freedom to understand the player, to understand the situation. You're not being pressure by uncertainty and danger. As a scum you need to look for yourself, to look for your team mates, to make sure you or them stay very far from any lynch prospect. And also at the same time needs to look for a mislynch opportunity. So much work to do. I don't feel all that here. I see you're being more direct and clear and also less philosophical. And your assessment on player feels less opportunistic and without overdoing pressure.
are you trying to buddy here?
 

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are you trying to buddy here?
So explaining what I think about someone in positive manner means I tried to buddy, buddy with them?

Yes I know my read on Toujo looks super positive but that's what I feel about him right now. The read can change depends on Toujo activity. Like in the previous game I read Toujo as slightly town at first before gradually read him as scum because there was real scum hunting from him

I just wanted to ask him who is he suspecting right now other than X.
 
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So explaining what I think about someone in positive manner means I tried to buddy, buddy with them?

Yes I know my read on Toujo looks super positive but that's what I feel about him right now. The read can change depends on Toujo activity. Like in the previous game I read Toujo as slightly town at first before gradually read him as scum because there was real scum hunting from him

I just wanted to ask him who is he suspecting right now other than X.
There was no real scum hunting*
 

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Bad post for several reasons. I'll include everything in ISO, but I'm saying this in short, cause I wanna sleep soon, the problems with this post is, you are town reading me without reading my posts. Seems more like a buddying attempt.
Second, you have excuses like missed it had it, but never got back to it?
Third, the posts seem to be made for the sake of making them and trying to point out your presence as contributing. But it isn't at all.


What is CWAC?

ABSOLUTELY NOT. I found you scummy because of you appearing and just shading only one post of mine with doing nothing else or literally nothing about why that response didn't suit your taste. And the fact you didn't bother to look at any other posts or anything?!

The bolded part, twll me where I gave false accusations and made up things against you. A general thing everyone does when get falsy accused is to defend themselves by providing evidences against the accuser.

I demand those. Prove me wrong, show me where I was wrong to form the read on you?

Low posters are easy targets sure, but there are more than you and X who are low posters, don't you think? And would it be foolishness if I'm scum and I'm going against the low posters like that?
CWAC is what you've said there@bold part

Strange that we have similar PoV towards that post from Tigerrr.
 

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wolf also does not really care about processing stuff, so ya can take your honesty somewhere else. Also, why i feel like your tone here is quite aggressive, don't tell me you are being defensive now tigerrr.

Me? that's a good question, what am I? did I rand scum? what do you think tigerrr? am I townie? or a scum?

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No I.m not gonna take my honesty somewhere else. It.s here. If you don.t like it why don.t you go somewhere else?

I do have what to defend and I don't mind being aggressive with you. So upfront I.m gonna do my best to take a piece of you if you.re gonna come for my role.

I can.t say that I know how to read you SK :( cause I don.t


I think you have purposely writing the bold part to frame me
Are you afraid to look guilty?
I don't get it why you think I would try to set you up in the first DP
You combined a different section of my posts and put it in order/sequence. You made it looks like a working order I have prepared in this game.
This is what I saw. I did combine what I saw as some of your actions through the first part of DP1.
And I wanted to poke you about it. I can't say that your response brought me much peace about your role though.
The truth is it's not like that. But why should scum cares about my reasoning or explanation right? When I wrongly lynch a player that's the chance for scum to tear me down. Happened to Houtarou before.
It feels to me you are getting paranoid.
Either we are having a clash of mindset and we don.t get eachother.s approach or you are scum 🤔

Are you for real? That post is my reply to Lukundo and not Ryu.

And we were talking about previous game's situation lol
I see. You and your custom of bringing previous games. Ok I can give you some slack for that.
Please don't Mistaken. Tigerrr isn't my real target earlier but her response to my posts what had triggered me. The way she responds to my posts. So in simple words she started it all, not me. I you look back into our conversation I'm just a receiver and not a giver. I'm merely responding to all her posts towards me.
And you saying I was doing CWAC was also receiving?
Merely responding to my posts? wow. So am I to get you are not sussing me anymore and you are just entertaining me or what?
Tigerrr isn't my real target earlier but her response to my posts what had triggered me.
Does that mean I became your target after I confronted you about the CWAC?
This is what I understand from your post. Correct me if I am wrong.
And If I am right, and I am now in you suss list, why do you say:
I'm merely responding to all her posts towards me.
cause this here makes it look, in my mind at least, that you are not sussing me actually but just defending yourself.
So which one is it, I am confused now.


hmmm



no, I mean you asked her if X would play like that as scum, it can be seen as a defense to X, but you said you wanted to question her, so my question is if the later is the case, what did you wanted to question her about?
I wanted to see her thought process and I wanted her to expand on her opinion of X. This is what I wanted to 'question her about'. Does it make sense to you?
 
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